Justifying the rape of women

I'm not arguing that both sides celebrate I'm just shocked you think israelis celebrating is understandable (your words not mine) yet Palestinians doing it isn't. Why can't they both be sick?

Wtf! Private celebrations are understandable???

Oops, silly me. Of course, in private, both Gazan and Israeli brutalized victims shed a tear when bad things happen to the other side.

https://english.wafa.ps/page.aspx?id=3cTfB8a110851623663a3cTfB8

Another example how rape is unfortunately not new to Israels war against the Palestinians.

I guess Israel (and its supporters) are just better at hiding it

Kindly explain how?

"Private celebrations are understandable, on both sides, but these huge demonstrations...?"

Wtf! Private celebrations are understandable??? Celebrating deaths and cheering and clapping at deaths of children is understandable as long as no one see? Wow! I honestly have no words I don't know whether to laugh at this or not. I think if anything you proved my earlier point. Thanks

I don't know, I'm sort of thinking about this sort of thing...?

Have I missed the bit where Israelis are doing the same about Gaza bombings?

@Desertrose2023 and @Dinkydaisy1 your blatant anti- semitism is showing again, like it has on other threads. I am glad you find it funny that the lies posted in the media about that hospital bombing led to yet another increase in anti - semitism around the world. Shame on you.

How is protesting against genocide and coming to streets in tears at a generation of children being killed... celebrating?

I'd much rather celebrate all the kids in the world going to sleep in their beds at night feeling warm and loved by their parents.

I think the pervading narrative of "This is Gazans fault" makes it easer to justify the genocide. I guess it's not any different from those who justified the holocaust, Bosnian genocide, Iraq war, Rwandan genocide, bengal famine, amritsar massacre.... All these threads going in circles just saying the same thing - they did it to themselves, while Israel, the moral army and supreme democracy, was giving them all they needed. Maybe it must makes it easier for all the posters to sleep in their beds at night.

Or crowds of angry men swarming through a fence to rape, maim and kill, as in the video.

@Itsaharddlife Why were you quick to show disgust at pro Palestinians supposedly celebrating but when I point out Israelis do the same you don't seem to hold the same level of disgust?
Because I haven't seen them do it publicly, en masse, in the streets of cities?

Private celebrations are understandable, on both sides, but these huge demonstrations...?

Admittedly I'm not watching TV news etc so I might have missed something.

The difference here is that the IDF soldier who raped a Palestinian woman (absolutely disgusting) was imprisoned for his crime. I don't see that happening to anyone from
Hamas.

I don’t know how many times this needs to be repeated here but Gaza is not a country. Gaza is a tiny strip of land with a security perimeter built around it by Israel where millions of Palestinians, forced from their homes by Israel decades ago, are now effectively held prisoner. Israel controls what goes in and out - as demonstrated by their current war crimes of withholding food, fuel, water and medicine. They are not allowed to use their port. They are not allowed to have an airport. Palestinians in Gaza can’t leave without permission from Israel, which is often denied. language matters. stop talking about Israel being at ‘war’ with Gaza. what’s happening is a genocide against the people forced to live in Gaza. One side is a nuclear state, the other side is 48% children under the age of 18.

and since when is it acceptable to collectively starve and dehydrate people for the acts of their government ? Should the US and the UK civilian populations have been carpet bombed and starved for the illegal invasion of Iraq ?

Agree

"You think Gazans shake their head sadly at the misfortunes of the Israelis? Hmm"

I'm just pointing out neither side holds the moral high ground.
Why were you quick to show disgust at pro Palestinians supposedly celebrating but when I point out Israelis do the same you don't seem to hold the same level of disgust?

I feel the 'Allahu akbar' has been associated with jihadists and it has been misunderstood. It literally means 'God is great' and I've heard it used in a wide variety of contexts - men carrying really heavy stuff, women in labour and even on TV you can see men digging dead bodies out of the rubble saying it.

The Israelis who live in their homes and razed their lands and made them stateless and prisoners and are able to torture, imprison, beat and kill at will?

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By the above, just pointing out

a) Palestinians and their supporters are not laughing or celebrating misfortune of Israelis. Would much rather live in their own homes and in peace and be able to see their childen grow up and go to sleep soundly like the rest of the world does. Noone wants to be at war.

B) the two cannot be equated - Israelis can sit on hilltops laughing at Gaza being razed and Palestinians being killed, much, much, much more than the reverse. Both are equally reprehensible, but the ginormous power imbalance and freuqncy of attacks cannot be ignored.

Indeed. Absolutely disgusting and yet they're so convinced they're on The Right Side.

You think Gazans shake their head sadly at the misfortunes of the Israelis? Hmm.

and the men and boys crowding around her, yelling, showing her the finger, spitting on her, shoving her into the car and muzzling in to gawp closer.

I dread to think what's happened to the hostages.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna85018

Article about a celebration in Israel a few years ago with them chanting "death to arabs"

Many people quote hamas wanting to destroy all Jews. Just wanted to point out the hatred is on both sides

Gaza hasn't had elections for years but, again, how do you deal with that in practical terms? Never go to war against any country that isn't a free and fair democracy? Every country led by despots and gangsters gets a free pass to do whatever it likes and you can't respond because nobody voted for them? Nevertheless, Hamas aren't some rogue terrorist group within Gaza, liable to be prosecuted by the Palestinian authorities if they can catch them. They are the government. They have billions, they have allies, they have thousands of trained fighters, they have infrastructure (the infrastructure they essentially robbed from their own citizens).

Has anyone seen the images of israeli citizens eating popcorn and clapping when gaza was bombed in 2014? Watching from the hilltop like a good show
I think that may come under celebrating

Re: rape, there are quite a few accounts that girls were raped and then killed, or killed and then raped, with the attackers laughing throughout. (from 01:40). Here, he corrects "the terrorists" to "people from Gaza" - when I first watched it, I wasn't sure why.

Now, it's known that many "innocent civilians" from Gaza, not just Hamas, repeatedly crossed the border to carry out these barbaric acts... as confirmed yesterday by Dr Qanta Ahmed from 01:10 in after she was one of the global reporters who viewed a 45-minute screening of some of the atrocities in Israel. She says hundreds, maybe thousands, of them.

If you watch the , you can see these civilian males, young and old, all piling in yelling "Allahu Akbar" like it's one great jamboree. They're not exactly hiding their delight, any more than their supporters around the world, setting off fireworks to celebrate this sort of thing.

Personally I'd rather be killed in a missile air strike than be a woman on the receiving end of all that. You can see why pelvic bones were shattered in their enthusiasm.

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