Justifying the rape of women

Agree with you

@EasterIssland I really dislike (seems too weak a word) the fact we demand evidence for rape full stop.
What happened to believing women?
It's inexcusable whatever the circumstances.

Yes. They want proof that these rapes have happened which I’ve provided. Also have used the shit happens it’s a war card and which they’ve been challenged about and they’ve decided to ignore.

All rape is wrong and all rapists need to be brought to justice. Israeli, Palestinian, any ethnicity or religion, nobody should be subjected to sexual violence.

As far as I can see, there is evidence of horrific sexual violence in the 7/10 atrocities and evidence of horrific sexual violence within the context of detained Palestinians. Different contexts but both abhorrent and needing justice.

@EasterIssland did you ask them then?
You haven't @ anybody?

The thread title says “Justifying the rape of women”

3 posters over the weekend have told me that the Hamas rapes are far worse than those perform on Palestinian women’s during detention cuz it’s a war.

i want to understand what levels of rape there are according to these posters. To me any rape is disgraceful and shouldn’t have happened ans there are no levels of rape. nobody should be minimising it and justifying it. To you I’m trying to stir up some shit in a pretty insensitive way, 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Humdingerydoo just saw that.

There is no excuse for sexual violence of any kind to anyone. It's not rocket science.

I mean... All rape is absolutely disgusting. And surely rape in itself must be considered torture. There is no excuse for any rape, ever. There is no excuse for sexual violence, ever.

Based on who resurrected this thread by posting, I'm going to assume it's going to have something to do with Palestinians being raped and they've come on to this specific thread to try and stir up some shit in a pretty insensitive way, but each to their own. Either way, if anyone is being raped it's a fucking disgrace and I hope the perpetrators are caught and dealt with. I haven't seen the actual accusations, just seen posts referring to it being denied, so I don't have anything else to add.

@qunari that's very true unfortunately.

@Dibilnik and being raped in front of and including close members of your family. Disgusting.

I think there are levels of rape. Most rapes do not include dismemberment and torture.

You've said on here before that you don't think rapes happened on October 7th.

And that some people think there are levels of rape
if you get raped by during the war , oh well shit happens sorry about that

wtf ? A rape is a rape. We should be as angry at one type of rape as the other one

What I can't understand is how any human being can look at the videos of traumatised children with no-one left to comfort them and think that that is justifiable revenge for the actions of some rapists.

It is so sad that sexual violence continues to be used as a weapon against women, children and men in conflict.

It is horrifying that people continue to minimise or deny it, or that people consider some sexual violence to be less bad on account of who it's against.

It's 'Me Too (unless you appear to belong to a group I don't support for some reason, then meh)' and that's wrong. All sexual violence needs to be taken seriously, investigated and condemned.

I don't justify the rape of women for a single solitary second. Nor do I justify the killings bf of children. Next question.

3 different posters have justified rapes on women and kids over the weekend.

It’s sickening thinking that for some a rape is worse than others and will be happy to justify them.

Unfortunately I'm not surprised. This is about politics. I find the notion that you can let your political ideals dictate your moral compass, on something so heinous as 7/10, abhorrent.

Global women's groups silent on rape

https://www.timesofisrael.com/global-womens-rights-groups-silent-as-israeli-women-testify-about-rapes-by-hamas/

Yes.,but they depict the truth, so that’s OK.,

yes but its ok because its definitely what happened anyway so.... honestly that misinformation thread is actually a...thread full of misinformation.

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat are people distributing AI images and trying to pass them off as genuine?

People are saying on other threads that the AI generated images of Gaza are true, because they depict the truth, yet they demand a higher standard of proof for the rapes, and the victims have to prove it.

It’s utter madness.

Quite.

And I mean seriously, what were the chances that Hamas terrorists were not raping? Groups of men, pumped up on adrenaline and absolute power and violence, not raping female ' enemies' - how likely is that? Add in 'Islamic' fanaticism which actively sanctions raping female captives as a god given right.

But no, apparently Hamas have the left wing double 'get of out jail free' card of both being Palestinian (hoorah!) and attacking Israelis (boo hiss!) so apparently video evidence of women being violated is needed as proof (though I am sure if there were it would be derided as CGI fakery), because Hamas terrorists are particularly saintly and self-controlled, presumably because they come from Palestine, or something, and so aren't like other men.

But there's nothing anti-Semitic about this line of thinking at all. Oh no.

I agree. The denial is not just mind boggling, but disgusting beyond belief.

The reactions since October the 7th, I could never have predicted this, never thought I would see the like, and definitely not in the UK.

My eyes have been well and truly opened.

Never, never again will anyone ever be able to persuade me that anti-semitism and anti-Israeli feeling aren't deep, deep bedfellows. Too many, far too many, how now proved how profoundly they are.

@XRAYTHIS ah but they are Jewish women.... feminism and doing the right thing... we believe you... goes out the window.

The man interviewed after being captured confessed. Said he was told to rape 'defile' as many as possible.

It's disgusting. Right side of history :/