How effective is Israeli bombing, anyway?

I have seen people
Saying they make it up and is fake 😳

@Ohdearanotheryear well this is the difference they palestinian shows us what is going on because is the only way to get their story out because the media does not show their side
As of journalist Seeing and telling us i don't have faith in the media anymore not after this mot after Iraq .
I am thankful
For social media today people
Are in the middle
Of bombing and they are recording talking in english why ?? Fo us to see for the western people
To see the atrocities to speak up

Are israeli supporters saying these videos are fake ? Because i have seen the argument that is make up and fake bodies and i just cant believe how blind can they be ?? Make up ? There are plenty of israeli "influencers" making mocking videos of mothers holding dead babies faking it is disgusting to see

So you have 2 different organisations telling you 4000-6000 have been killed and hundreds more missing under the rubble, thousands more injured. But you think you are right in thinking Palestinians are lying. This is what you call dehumanisation. Even in a genocide they have to prove themselves. Please go follow Shaun King on insta. Please go follow Motaz_azaiza you will see every single child and innocent being killed in hundreds daily. Entire families wiped out during night. Everything is being filmed yet here you are arguing over number of deaths.

Since many don't believe Israel without visual proof a very large group of journalists were gathered together and showed recorded footage that was recorded by Hamas terrorists and uploaded. The journalists reported about this and the sickening things they saw.

Hamas don't have the same problem and many believe their claims without seeing any proof at all.

Personally I wouldn't want to see these uploaded recorded scenes to realise why Israel are angry. The festival rapes and killings uploaded sometimes to family social media accounts. The kibbutz slaughters etc. They were shared with journalists. Although the journalists reported what the saw many still don't believe it which might explain how anti semitic beliefs work...don't 'trust the Jews' its very deeply buried in many.

Pisgat Ze'ev stabbings - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisgat_Ze%27ev_stabbings
He did not kill some one. There is a video proof of him being questioned in torturous ways at 13. Where did you read that he killed someone? There is no proof and his knife had no blood on it!

I don't know anything about this man so I couldn't tell you what he did or didn't do. Your lack of humanity and deflection is telling though. I doubt they are campaigning for worldwide release of minors who have committed murder. They probably just don't agree with the torture of 13 year old children.

Israel often rounds up Palestinians and imprisons them. There have long been reports of mistreatment, torture and murder of Palestinians in Israeli prisons. This is happening as we speak https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2023/10/21/number-of-palestinian-prisoners-in-israel-doubles-to-10000-in-two-weeks

A quick Google brought up this man who very recently died "in mysterious circumstance" in an Israeli prison. He was arrested and imprisoned with his 9 year old son. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231024-palestinian-prisoners-dies-in-israels-jails-2-weeks-into-his-detention/

There is no evidence of such acts on the Israeli side by Palestinians. Israel is already using illegal phosphorus bombs. Israel are already illegally occupying land that isn’t theirs. Israel is not the victim they are the occupying state

I do wonder about MNHQ continuing to host this poster

Particularly after @mushti waxing lyrical about Israel's ''thermo-nuclear'' capability

It will all look very different in 6 months time

A lot of people is Israel are very right wing. Anything short of actual genocide is a kindness as far as they’re concerned.

Actually @Sugaristheenemy prior to 7 October approval ratings for the (very right wing) government were low, and the prime minister was scrabbling around for parliamentary partners to shore him up. I'm a Jew, my family are in Israel, my friends are in Israel, and their families... hundreds of people and lots of shared discussions, access to media viewpoints etc. Not a one would say that "anything short of a genocide is a kindness". What a terrible thing to ascribe. Please don't mix ordinary people up with their gov't.

I agree, it makes you shudder to think there are people with views like @mushti who walk among us.

Mushti you are in fact pure evil with a heart of stone

A lot of people is Israel are very right wing. Anything short of actual genocide is a kindness as far as they’re concerned.

Jesus. I cant believe you are quibbling about the amount of deaths. Its 6000, no its 4000.

Quite the gotcha

Fascinating. Thank you

Targeting hospitals and children has a greater value for Israel in terms of terror. It also enables them to claim that they didn't carry out genocide, merely that the population 'left'.
If you're supported by the biggest nations in the world, numbers matter. You have to be aware of your public image.

Whilst taking over Palestine and destroying it.

Is there a video or proof of this please ? First itme i heard ablut it ?

6000 is a low estimate. Think of all the people who have died under the rubble of the thousands of buildings and homes flattened. They are uncounted.

Israel has now bombed the refugee camp in the south after telling citizens to head there. So yes rounding up women and children into a camp and then bombing them will be quite effective at killing even more.

There isn’t really a way right now to count deaths accurately.

Hamas operates mostly underground so the flattening of Gaza isn’t really about Hamas, it’s about getting rid of Palestine and the people in it.

I don't understand why people are willing to believe Hamas though.

Nor me. I can understand people not necessarily believing the IDF without verification but Hamas are terrorists ffs and lie constantly. Why would they be more likely to be honest? Yet some people automatically believe what they say. It would be laughable if the whole thing wasn't so bloody awful.

Additionally, the IDF tweeted themselvesthat they hit the hospital literally minutes after it was hit. Then that tweet got deleted.

That tweet was actually from this guy below who is a self-confessed media personality. He used to be on Netanyahu's comms team but is not an official anything as far as I can tell. The government's official press spokesman is Eylon Levy and the IDF spokesman is Peter Lerner.

Didn’t Ahmed Manasir kill someone @Threemangoes? Is there evidence of his torture. He looks quite healthy in the video I’ve just seen.

You do realise child murderers are locked up most Western countries as well? Are you campaigning for their release?

What are the other 12000 Palestinians in prison for? Has Israel confirmed that number?

There are 12000 Palestinians in Israel's hostage(prison) currently. Read about Ahmed Manasir a 13 year old boy who has been tortured for year and now at 22 years of age suffers from blindness and schizophrenia in Israel's prison.

Please stop justifying. It's children and innocents dying in thousands with no access to water food aid power or safe place. Literally locked in a camp. How is the world watching this happen?

Ehh Hamas were elected in 2006. What about West bank where there in no Hamas? 6000 Palestinians killed in the last 8 years with continuous stealing killing and land grabbing?