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To be horrified re the 2000+ children killed in Gaza.

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SoShallINever · 24/10/2023 22:57

The news tonight was unbearable.
I am sickened that the West is not calling for a ceasefire or some restraint.
I found out today that Gaza is almost exactly the same size as the small Hebridean island of Jura. But whereas Jura has a few hundred residents, Gaza has 2.4 million packed in. You couldn't throw a stone into Gaza without it hitting someone, never mind a missile.
The children of Gaza are not terrorists and I wish Israel would stop.

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Itsaharddlife · 27/10/2023 21:54

Coughingdodger · 27/10/2023 21:47

If it’s not our war why is the UK selling arms to Israel and offering them military aid?

Exactly

I've just figured out how to post a previous quote on my response.
Only taken me a week on this forum to figure it out

Itsaharddlife · 27/10/2023 21:52

"What do you suggest happens? What would you like Israel to do, apart from stopping the bombing? Hearing a lot on here about what they shouldn’t do, but not what other options are available to them."

Just watched a clip of an interview of an ex Israeli soldier who basically says that unless Israel government treated Palestinian like humans (not keeping them under military occupation, giving them the same right to freedom and movement as their own citizens. Stop forcing them out of their own homes) then perhaps there can be change.

Lonelycrab · 27/10/2023 21:52

Genocide

Coughingdodger · 27/10/2023 21:47

Itsaharddlife · 27/10/2023 21:46

"Put pressure on them to do what? It’s not our war, and we absolutely should not get involved. Sick of these protests on our streets. It will achieve nothing."

If you don't think this is your problem, then why are you involving yourself on this thread?
Go piss off

If it’s not our war why is the UK selling arms to Israel and offering them military aid?

Itsaharddlife · 27/10/2023 21:46

"Put pressure on them to do what? It’s not our war, and we absolutely should not get involved. Sick of these protests on our streets. It will achieve nothing."

If you don't think this is your problem, then why are you involving yourself on this thread?
Go piss off

EasterIssland · 27/10/2023 21:45

Parkingt111 · 27/10/2023 21:42

First of all stop bombing hospitals, school and safe places
Stop killing journalists
Stop murdering Aid workers whilst they sleep in their homes
Let sufficient aid go in
Let the women and children and innocent civilians out
They have kept them imprisoned in a cage
Shut off all ways of communication so they can't tell the world what is happening
And now indiscriminately bombing in the dark
This is genocide

I’d as as well
Release 6000 people that have nothing to do with Hamas but been arrested for being Palestinians

stop stealing their homes
stop killing their kids
stop raping their women
give them their water

basically treat Palestinians like humans

EasterIssland · 27/10/2023 21:43

Livelovebehappy · 27/10/2023 21:36

Put pressure on them to do what? It’s not our war, and we absolutely should not get involved. Sick of these protests on our streets. It will achieve nothing.

How much lack of empathy. Hope nothing ever happens to you and expect empathy from others

btw if this is not our war then I hope sunak stops talking on my name. I don’t want Israel to win if that means 2m Palestinians are death

Parkingt111 · 27/10/2023 21:42

Livelovebehappy · 27/10/2023 21:38

What do you suggest happens? What would you like Israel to do, apart from stopping the bombing? Hearing a lot on here about what they shouldn’t do, but not what other options are available to them.

First of all stop bombing hospitals, school and safe places
Stop killing journalists
Stop murdering Aid workers whilst they sleep in their homes
Let sufficient aid go in
Let the women and children and innocent civilians out
They have kept them imprisoned in a cage
Shut off all ways of communication so they can't tell the world what is happening
And now indiscriminately bombing in the dark
This is genocide

Livelovebehappy · 27/10/2023 21:38

FrankieStein403 · 27/10/2023 21:06

Not aware that anyone disagrees that Israel has the right to defend itself.

Just that the way they have chosen to execute this defence is anything but.

They cannot eradicate Hamas with bombs, shells even guns. All they are doing is recruiting more terrorists.

No-one spouting the 'right to defend' line has explained how the IDF actions will achieve this. They have tried the same thing many times and failed - why should it work this time?

What do you suggest happens? What would you like Israel to do, apart from stopping the bombing? Hearing a lot on here about what they shouldn’t do, but not what other options are available to them.

Livelovebehappy · 27/10/2023 21:36

Gogol253 · 27/10/2023 18:47

Please, please if you can, please go to the protest tomorrow in your city or town. They are happening up and down the country tomorrow. Please turn up and put pressure on this shameful government

Put pressure on them to do what? It’s not our war, and we absolutely should not get involved. Sick of these protests on our streets. It will achieve nothing.

FrankieStein403 · 27/10/2023 21:06

Not aware that anyone disagrees that Israel has the right to defend itself.

Just that the way they have chosen to execute this defence is anything but.

They cannot eradicate Hamas with bombs, shells even guns. All they are doing is recruiting more terrorists.

No-one spouting the 'right to defend' line has explained how the IDF actions will achieve this. They have tried the same thing many times and failed - why should it work this time?

Photographsandmemories · 27/10/2023 21:04

https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=100063526243348&story_fbid=829583829169151

Perhaps if London Muslims keep defacing the pictures of the innocent Israelis (mostly women and children) kidnapped and murdered by Hamas, we'll forget what provoked all this.

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vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 21:04

@WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps by killing children and blocking humanitarian aid?

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 27/10/2023 20:49

vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 20:47

@WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps if you believe in the Israel has the right to defend itself line then the deaths of the civilians is on your hands

You don’t think Israel has the right to defend itself?

Dinkydaisy1 · 27/10/2023 20:48

There's a part of me that's still, perhaps naively, in shock, that we still have genocide defenders amongst us as we speak

vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 20:47

@WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps if you believe in the Israel has the right to defend itself line then the deaths of the civilians is on your hands

localnotail · 27/10/2023 20:20

Oliotya · 27/10/2023 18:25

Hamas has nowhere near 100k fighters.

ok, maybe I put it wrong - not "fighters", but actual Hamas members. Internet says there are 25k in the military wing - but there are also other sectors, intelligence, engineers, government officials, etc etc. As I mentioned previously, Hamas are the ruling party and everyhting in Gaza - education, healthcare, police, etc - are run by them, these people will have to be Hamas party members. So I would say 100k in total is not a bad guess.

Parkingt111 · 27/10/2023 20:19

Latest update I found

To be horrified re the 2000+ children killed in Gaza.
WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 27/10/2023 20:18

vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 20:06

@Milkandhoneybees don't waste your time on people like @WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps. Isreal has the technology to target Hamas with minimal collateral damage, yet they bombed and displaced over 1 million people.

No it doesn’t, nobody does. That is bullshit. If you hide behind civilians their deaths are on your hands. And if (the theocratic government of) Iran hides behind proxy terrorists the deaths are on their hands too.

MissyB1 · 27/10/2023 20:18

ketchup07070 · 27/10/2023 18:31

Does Israel have control of the mobile phone network and internet? It means whatever happens there is now hidden from the world, but also that residents can't call an ambulance, check where is safe(r) to go, find the news, check on friends. If Israel has done this - is it legal?

They don’t give a shit what is and isn’t legal, war crimes all over the place from them, free pass from all the western world.

vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 20:18

@WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps you are so brainwashed that there is no point reasoning with you

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 27/10/2023 20:15

Oh please pipe down.

Are you for real?

MissyB1 · 27/10/2023 20:15

Gogol253 · 27/10/2023 18:47

Please, please if you can, please go to the protest tomorrow in your city or town. They are happening up and down the country tomorrow. Please turn up and put pressure on this shameful government

I’m going to find my nearest protest, my 14 year old ds wants to join one too. We have watched the channel 4 news this evening in pure horror.
Cannot imagine the terror in Gaza tonight. 😢

ThinkWise · 27/10/2023 20:15

vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 20:06

@Milkandhoneybees don't waste your time on people like @WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps. Isreal has the technology to target Hamas with minimal collateral damage, yet they bombed and displaced over 1 million people.

Hamas can not fight with powerful IDF alone so targetted civilians, sadly IDF is no more better than that it seems , Also why do they worry about GaZA civilians??? after all they were all people whom they were treating as prioners!!!

vestedinterests · 27/10/2023 20:06

@Milkandhoneybees don't waste your time on people like @WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps. Isreal has the technology to target Hamas with minimal collateral damage, yet they bombed and displaced over 1 million people.