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The people that don't call those that support Hamas

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Trulywonderful · 24/10/2023 16:32

Such a nice guy with a good morals obviously. What more do you want from a barrister or law firm that hasn't spoken out on this

(Sarcasm)

The people that don't call those that support Hamas
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HeidiInTheBigCity · 30/10/2023 22:06

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@Trulywonderful, I am literally not quite certain about who is meant to have done what, based purely on the description!

So: was the issue that people put up posters you disagreed with? Tore the same down? Put up the "other" posters? "None of the above"- I have just utterly and completely misunderstood?

In either case: I have reported the post with the pictures, on the grounds that - even though I have no idea who and what these people are supposedly for or against and in the spitit of "our human rights must not be infringed upon": while I have no evidence as to who or what these people are supposedly for or against: I cannot support witch hunting on the internet! That would happen to include "even if they are on the side I support"!

I have also, in the same spirit, NOT reported the post without pictures of people - even though I really do not grasp what it is for or against - but it does not harm anyone, so that IS fully okay!

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 22:03

A Football Association today launched an investigation after a youth match involving a Jewish team had to be abandoned because opposition parents refused to let their children play against them.

Parents of two players from the under-14 team Panthera pulled their children out of the match against a team called the Maccabi Lions because the team contained Jewish players, it is claimed.

(This one is very sickening, social services shouldbe called if tbis is true. Parents should not be using children to spread there hate)

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 21:51

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 21:23

"Two police officers stripped the outside of Cullimore Chemist in Edgware, North London of flyers of the missing innocents after receiving calls from residents concerned about tension within the community.

Some locals in the area, which is home to a sizeable Jewish community, have slammed the officers over their 'disgusting actions'. But the Met has insisted they were merely taking steps to 'stop issues escalating' and to 'avoid community tension'.

In a statement, the force said that the missing posters were hung in 'retaliation' for comments about the Israel-Hamas war - including branding Israel and the IDF as 'filthy animals' - that were posted online by an alleged member of the chemist's staff. Police said a print of out the remarks was also hung outside the shop.

Officers removed the posters and the comments because they have a 'responsibility to take reasonable steps to stop issues escalating and to avoid any further increase in community tension,' the force said.

Investigators are also reviewing the alleged staff member's social media post for possible offences."

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 16:58

EasterIssland · 30/10/2023 15:00

Yes some posters keep saying they hope Israel wins and even sunak said the British hoped israel won.

this is not a competition I agree. Both sides are behaving disgustingly

Well that and those that are rooting for Hamas and the destruction of a state with 9 million citizens. Leading to the biggest refugee crisis in history and actual genocide of anyone that stays. Genocide being what Hamas has said they will do to any Jew that stay if they ever win. I agree with you Israel and Britain should not talk about winning and losing either. Biden should definitely not have talked about teams. These are all just men flexing their muscles. It solves nothing.

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 14:05

Interesting logic, you seem to think only one side can be right or wrong. When it comes to vile or hateful behaviour both side have people willing to participate in that.

This doesn't make what Hamas and th supporters did the good guys and not monsters!

Please give your head a wobble and understand this isn't a game for people to win. Nobody wins in conflict or when people spread hate.

Yes some posters keep saying they hope Israel wins and even sunak said the British hoped israel won.

this is not a competition I agree. Both sides are behaving disgustingly

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 14:05

Nervousandexcitedd · 30/10/2023 13:55

It also takes one quick search on Google/ YouTube and the like, to see Israeli citizens celebrating the deaths of the Palestinian people. Young people on TikTok mocking the dying, suffering people of Gaza. But hey, Hamas though right. Monsters.

Interesting logic, you seem to think only one side can be right or wrong. When it comes to vile or hateful behaviour both side have people willing to participate in that.

This doesn't make what Hamas and th supporters did the good guys and not monsters!

Please give your head a wobble and understand this isn't a game for people to win. Nobody wins in conflict or when people spread hate.

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Stomacharmeleon · 30/10/2023 14:01

@Nervousandexcitedd and yes Hamas literally terrorists.... recognised so..... so you are saying Hamas are not monsters? After everything they did?

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Stomacharmeleon · 30/10/2023 13:59

@Nervousandexcitedd they were out celebrating before Israel started its response. So literally celebrating before the bodies were cold.
You look hard enough you can find anything to suit your bias.

Nervousandexcitedd · 30/10/2023 13:55

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 11:42

That is correct. In London and around the world protesters waved flags, set of fire works and sang within hours of the 7th October pogrom starting. Whilst even more people took to social media calling it a joyful event, saying how wonderful Hamas were and various other sickening things.

Sweets were also being handed out in places here and around the world. A gesture that happens in Gaza after an Israeli is killed. Hamas and supporters hand out sweets to the citizens to celebrate. The fact that anyone in Britain things this is ok to do here is frankly alarming to most people, not only Jews.

It also takes one quick search on Google/ YouTube and the like, to see Israeli citizens celebrating the deaths of the Palestinian people. Young people on TikTok mocking the dying, suffering people of Gaza. But hey, Hamas though right. Monsters.

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 13:50

Yet more from what happened in Russia and how it not only affected Jews but scared non Jews too. If we don't want this stuff to start here now is the time to be vocal about hate crimes and not be tolerant of voices fan or celebrate hate:

"The mob at the airport also prevented buses from leaving the airport, with video showing a group of men demanding to see the passports of terrified parents and their crying children to check if they were from Israel.

A woman trapped on one arriving plane said children on board were crying and left terrified as they saw the angry mob descend onto the tarmac after the authorities lost control.

The angry mob was demanding the expulsion of Jews from the Dagestan region where they have lived for thousands of years. Yet it took the Kremlin hours to respond to the chaotic scenes, with spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying it was the result of 'outside influence'.

Mr Peskov said 'ill-wishers' had used widely seen images of suffering in Gaza to stir people up in the predominantly Muslim region in the north Caucasus."

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Nervousandexcitedd · 30/10/2023 13:50

And it's the image of small dead babies wrapped in red bloody cloth, parents holding their dead children and begging to be buried with them, pieces of flesh being collected and carried away in bags, the lost terrified look on small innocent faces who have lost everything, people standing over rubble that was once their home/livelihood, doctors operating on the injured with flashlights, the sounds of terrified screams and cries in complete darkness, scared hungry people running from one place to another to stay safe and still being killed is what reminds of why the Israeli government is a terrorist organisation in power who are committing genocide in real time under the guise of finding Hamas and are effectively wiping out the Palestinian population because that's what they really want.

I stand with Palestine.

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 13:37

Horrific to think what the poor girl went through. We all saw those images of her getting paraded naked through the streets on a truck whilst people spat at her. My mind doesn't even want to go there about what else she experienced. All this whilst hateful idiots in the west had victory protests, set of fireworks and celebrated with glee.

She won't be forgotten or be alone again. We will never forget her life being lost and how. May her memory be blessed 🌺

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Stomacharmeleon · 30/10/2023 13:25

I have seen that they have found the remains of shani luk after she was thought to be in hospital in Gaza. For me if I need reminding why Hamas need removing it's the images of her naked and defiled body on the back of that jeep. Just a young girl at a music festival.

I Stand by Israel.

Akatsiya · 30/10/2023 12:10

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 11:56

Coughingdodger · 30/10/2023 11:51

I am interested in Gaza.

Great. A lot of threads on here talking about Gaza. Not many manage to do so factually without derailment mind. However I am sure you can find people that what to talk more about Gaza on one of those threads.

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Coughingdodger · 30/10/2023 11:51

BlurredEdges · 30/10/2023 11:17

Yesterday you said you weren't interested in Jews and didn't care about antisemitism because 7 billion people in the world aren't Jews.

Yet here you are still posting about us 24 hours later. No one would mind if you stopped posting, you know.

I am interested in Gaza.

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 11:45

A member of the Jewish chaplaincy service in higher education (University) has said that:

Jewish students are having Palestinian flags draped over their cars

Doors knocked on of the Jewish chaplain, with people saying "We know where you live".

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 11:42

Ginlette · 30/10/2023 11:25

I have read that the first pro Palestine rallies actually occured straight after the attack on the festival goers, before Israel had retaliated. In fact some gathered in front of the Israeli embassy on October 9th.

What are we to make of that?

That is correct. In London and around the world protesters waved flags, set of fire works and sang within hours of the 7th October pogrom starting. Whilst even more people took to social media calling it a joyful event, saying how wonderful Hamas were and various other sickening things.

Sweets were also being handed out in places here and around the world. A gesture that happens in Gaza after an Israeli is killed. Hamas and supporters hand out sweets to the citizens to celebrate. The fact that anyone in Britain things this is ok to do here is frankly alarming to most people, not only Jews.

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Ginlette · 30/10/2023 11:25

I have read that the first pro Palestine rallies actually occured straight after the attack on the festival goers, before Israel had retaliated. In fact some gathered in front of the Israeli embassy on October 9th.

What are we to make of that?

Xenia · 30/10/2023 11:20

The marches in London are difficult for everyone. If we had 100,000 jews marching in London with some chanting for a war against muslims or that they wanted Israel to cast out all Palestinians to the full borders I wonder if the police would be so restrained?

Xenia · 30/10/2023 11:19

Also lots of us who support Israel do NOT call those complaining about Israel reacting to the invasion anti-semitic (although some people are of course, sadly).

BlurredEdges · 30/10/2023 11:17

Coughingdodger · 30/10/2023 10:04

Well my Ukrainian friends - who aren’t violent themselves, so obviously no, it’s not everyone - don’t want to return to East Ukraine.

And the Israeli government is pretty brutal so I was wondering if it was a cultural thing rather than religious.

Yesterday you said you weren't interested in Jews and didn't care about antisemitism because 7 billion people in the world aren't Jews.

Yet here you are still posting about us 24 hours later. No one would mind if you stopped posting, you know.

BlurredEdges · 30/10/2023 11:16

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Wow. This is straight out of the playbook

First of all, call it lies.

Then, when it becomes clear that it's true, blame an antisemitic lynch mob hunting down and nearly killing Jews on... Jews.

But of course. It's always our own fault, really, isn't it?

Not much has changed since medieval peasants were throwing Jews down wells.