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What do you understand from the chant 'Free Palestine'?

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/10/2023 08:31

Just that really. I have seen there have been many marches these last few days where people in solidarity with Palestinians chant 'Free Palestine'
Now I understand that as Free Palestine from the occupation; West Bank vs Settlers, military rule, and blockades in Gaza.
I have asked a Palestinian friend and a Lebanese neighbour what they think it means and they confirmed what I thought.

But the chant is triggering many others to believe it is anti Semitic or that it means something else and it's passing me as to what else it could mean.

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Wtafis · 23/10/2023 08:48

It’s the “from the river to the sea” part that’s incredibly problematic

User98866 · 23/10/2023 08:47

Really?

‘From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will Be Free” is a common call-to-arms for pro-Palestinian activists. It calls for the establishment of a State of Palestine from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, erasing the State of Israel and its people.’

Given that Hamas will not accept any Jews existing there I’m not sure how people are seeing this as a peaceful cry.

1dayatatime · 23/10/2023 08:47

So the way these threads generally work is:

  1. Excuse my ignorance as I don't know much about the Arab Israeli conflict but could someone please explain to me [insert something emotive]
  2. post some factually incorrect comments and deny certain events took place
  3. when countered / challenged or corrected immediately shift to whataboutery
  4. quickly moving on to conspiracy theories
  5. once seeds of doubt are planted revert back to denial

The thing is both sides of this debate are driven by conviction and will dismiss any factual information that shows their comments to be fake news. Nothing will ever change both sides views and unless we stop emotive opinions and instead stick to the facts then it will be impossible to reach a peaceful solution.

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gotomomo · 23/10/2023 08:44

I know people who marched, they are Christians supporting the rights of Palestinians to live, nothing more, nothing less - not jihad, peace

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/10/2023 08:43

Literally no one I know or that they know think that@User98866

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gotomomo · 23/10/2023 08:43

It means exactly what it says. It doesn't specify how, most people believe in peaceful means, but anyone who knows any history will know that until 1948 what we now call Israel was Palestine and people were uprooted and removed from the land they owned. The West Bank and Gaza occupation (illegal under un) was as a result of the 6 day war.

I don't know a single person who openly supports Hamas, or terrorism at all but I know plenty who support the rights of Palestinians to live in their ancestral homeland too, living together in peace, equality for all. I don't see that happening though, how?

Both Israelis and Palestinians living in peace is what we need

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/10/2023 08:42

I don't understand how it is a call to Jihad. You might have a small number of nutters chanting it as a trojan horse, but for the vast majority it is what it is.

How can someone read so much into it? @Teentaxidriver Get rid of Netanyahu, withdraw all settlements from West Bank; end military rule in the West Bank, remove blockade in Gaza. That will start the peace process

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User98866 · 23/10/2023 08:39

Many calling for this want the expulsion of all Jews from the region. Let’s not be naive about it. Some chanting may not realise.

Teentaxidriver · 23/10/2023 08:36

How do you think the freedom might be achieved? Peacefully? All the useful idiots out bellowing this over the weekend. It is a call to Jihad.

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