How will Gaza be rebuilt??

Because they have nothing. They won’t have education, fancy careers, travel, all the nice things we have. All they have is family and why should Israel take that from them too?

Far easier for Israel to level Gaza and displace a couple of million people than it is for them to tackle the actual Hamas leadership in Qatar I guess.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/far-from-gaza-hardships-hamas-chief-and-family-enjoy-easy-life-in-qatar/

I'd be surprised if Israel wanted the Gaza land. Suspect it will be too much of a clean up job to be of use to anyone. Besides, they seem to be doing well out of stealing Palestinian land in the West Bank so they probably don't need Gaza:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/21/the-most-successful-land-grab-strategy-since-1967-as-settlers-push-bedouins-off-west-bank-territory

Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorism. Hamas are evil and depraved. But I can't help feeling that Israel will use this latest atrocity as an excuse to achieve their goal of eradication of the the Palestinian state. The current government are a bunch of hard right nutters desperate to cling to power after the controversy over their judicial changes. As long as they are in power, there's no chance of Gaza being rebuilt.

I don’t think there’s much point @SomeCatFromJapan - this isn’t the sort of thread where reputable links and reasoned conversation will find a happy home.

Everyone else - I heard first hand from my rabbi’s sister that Israel plans to build a sacrificial altar on the Gaza strip, so that it’s got a good supply of children’s blood to drink for the next millennia. Happy now?

Hamas won’t be defeated until everyone living there is obliterated or escape. They will need to then take over the land because otherwise it’ll be a ground for new terrorists (because anyone who tries to rebuild it will obviously hate Israel).

And this is Hamas in a nutshell

Agree

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67175094.amp

Israel have stated that they intend to have no further responsibility for Gaza. They won't be annexing it, they won't in future supply its electricity and other needs.

This has been in the news for a couple of days now so I'm not sure why people are speculating otherwise.

What a fucking disgusting thing to say. "Rubbing their hands in glee" after a devastating terrorist attacker. Wtf.

I think Gaza will be razed to the ground and rendered uninhabitable. Israel will find a use for it.

I will start your research with one bit of evidence from a source you said you believed earlier. After this you are on your own with Learning about the conflict happening now. Like I said I am not your mother and won't do your homework for you.

You want me to do your research for you? I am not your mother, got my own kids that need to be told to do their homework thanks. You were going on about watching a certain channel that I told was bias a fair amount of the time. I also suggested you need to watch various news channels to have a decent picture of the situation. I mean you have also said they are using pipe bombs like that is there only projectile. Everyone knows that hasn't been true for years. It would be beneficial for you to research and broaden what you watch/read about the conflict. Then you be able to work out if social media reports etc sound right too.

The impact of those missiles can take out buildings and kill people but not obliterate whole towns. I mean even Israel isn't firing something that big into Gaza. It would be an international incident on an even bigger scale if someone did that. You are talking really heavily duty stuff there. Israel also have the iron dome which like I said manages to blow up most fired at them. However this stuff is still being fired at Israel. Hence the reason they built such a good defence system. Hamas started firing missiles at Israel on the day of the pogrom and have been doing so ever since. Do your research and look at different sources to find out for yourself about what weapons are used by Hamas. Also look are were they have been reported to smug weapons from.

You do know they also have real weapons don't you?

You think they only have home made rockets? For a start home made rockets can't reach the distances some of the Israeli hits by Hamas has managed. Plus the are not enough pipes in the whole of Gaza to have been firing rockets since the pogrom in Israel. All the news outlets around the world have been reporting this constant bombing both sides are doing. Israel has the iron dome so can keep a lot of missiles away by blowing them up mid air. However this is not perfect and the odd one gets through. There are people on both sides livestreaming all this too. You need to watch a different channel or something and maybe research online what weapons Hamas uses these days.

Below is an example of the missiles they used in the biggish 2021 conflict

Are you saying there should be no humanitarian aid to Palestinians who are being bombed to bits by Israel as we speak with essentially no humanitarian aid in the last two weeks having lived under apartheid in Gaza for the last 15 years?

Really? Is that your contribution?

I did at first wonder if Muslim polygamy was happening there. A lot of the Somali Muslims in my area of London have wives in different cities. It would account for more children than adults if the men took more than one wife. However after looking at figures I realised that isn't the situation in Gaza. In fact citizens have held off Hamas in possessing Taliban type laws. They have had riots and everything about modest dress etc laws trying to get made.

So many children born in the last 18 years, poor lambs.

I don't disagree with this - but what I don't understand is didn't Hamas see that this would happen as a result of their attack. I've asked on another thread - what did Hamas think Israel would actually do?

This has to stop. Ok hammas need to go. But beyond that there should be no further supply for either side until peace talks commence. Leaving the status quo has resulted in this mess.