What does 'ceasing responsibility for life' mean?

And yet the Palestinian people who (I think you’d say) do get on with their neighbours haven’t been able to drum up any significant source of foreign aid from the many kindly-disposed and oil-rich Arab and Muslim nations of the world.

why is that?

I should clarify, it’s not every Israeli who agrees with their leadership. But I believe those who try speak out against child slaughter in their name are threatened with job loss or worse (eg Israel Frey).
I’m not so sure that Israel is truly a democracy.

the Palestinians have nothing to show for 75 years of struggle. Nothing.

why do you imagine that is?

Because they didn’t have lots of cash and backing from the West ?
Because most of them were driven out in the Nakba?
Because they are oppressed and their lands are occupied by Israel?
Because most of them live in ghetto prisons?
Because they don’t have any country/state of their own just the aforementioned ghetto’s?

And now thinks it’s ok to murder thousands of innocent children. But it’s not Israel’s FAULT they’re murdering thousands of children. It’s the Gazans’ fault. All of them.

And while leeching off the US they have effectively imprisoned Gaza and blocked every effort it has made to advance itself as an economy.

With massive financial
aid from the US.
Israel is the largest recipient of financial aid from the US since WW2.
Yet after 75 years they are still unable to get on with ANY of their neighbours.

@mushti I have had some very productive conversations with some pro Israel posters on here
But you are nothing but full of hatred
Isn't a large part of judaism about showing kindness?
And not just to other fellow Jews but also to gentiles

@mushti seeing as you are hell bent on being rude and arrogant
Go check out the literacy rates of Gaza and then go compare it to Israel

@mushti
I just want to mention something that a lot of people might not know. Not only is Gaza one of the most densely populated areas on earth, it is also one of the most highly educated populations on earth. I think there are more advanced degrees per capita in Gaza than any major city in the West. The Palestinians are a rich treasure of skills, knowledge, innovation, inventiveness, resourcefulness, and sheer brilliance. that has been trapped and locked out for decades, and is now being decimated. The whole world has been deprived of their collective genius, and we will never know what their contribution would have been to any number of fields, sectors, and industries, had they been allowed to participate.

After 75 years of statehood, Israel had a gross domestic in 2021 product of 485 billion dollars, 13th highest in the world per capita.

the Palestinians have nothing to show for 75 years of struggle. Nothing.

why do you imagine that is?

Ignore her

This is bizarre. What do you want people to say to this? Yes the terrorist state of Israel is attempting to wipe out the Palestinains, its going really well for them. They are killing lots of women and children. As an Israeli politician was so open, with they believe the 'Gazan children brought it upon themselves' and so they are setting out to kill them. Its going shit for the Palestinians. 1000s are dying at the hands of a blood thirsty Israel who have always believed themselves superior. They teach their children that Arabs are 'primitive, vile and criminal' and now those children are all grown up and committing mass murder of the people they have been taught to despise.
Seems Israels plan is going great. Lock em up, teach your kids to despise them, then they won't blink when they are sent to kill them all.

You’re still not answering the question: how is it going? Has the Palestinian strategy brought them what they hoped, 75 years ago?

Oh bore off* *

You’re still not answering the question: how is it going? Has the Palestinian strategy brought them what they hoped, 75 years ago?

Hamas, as I argued earlier, kind of thrive on bloodshed. Get rid of Hamas or better yet, give the Palestinians reasons to turn against them.
How? Don’t know. No-one knows really do they?

Agree. Both re getting rid of Hamas and the whole how the hell do they do that issue.

At what point does everyone accept the reality of Israel's continued existence then? Because they're clearly not going anywhere so until that acceptance is reached, there is going to be bloodshed and suffering

Hamas, as I argued earlier, kind of thrive on bloodshed. Get rid of Hamas or better yet, give the Palestinians reasons to turn against them.
How? Don’t know. No-one knows really do they?

At what point does everyone accept the reality of Israel's continued existence then? Because they're clearly not going anywhere so until that acceptance is reached, there is going to be bloodshed and suffering.

The UN proposed a partition plan in ‘46.

The Jews said yes, but the Arabs said no thanks and rolled the dice on a war, which they lost and the Jews won.

Well why would the Arabs agree to give half their land to an influx of European immigrants ?
I mean it would have been lovely if they had but they didn’t and, at the risk of being cynical about human nature, that doesn’t seem so surprising.
It may of been helpful if Israel had only defended the land allotted to them in the partition plan instead of taking practically the whole lot. Shows what they thought of the two state solution.

how that going for the Palestinians? Is it working out the way they hoped?

Gloating eh?

All class.

The UN proposed a partition plan in ‘46.

The Jews said yes, but the Arabs said no thanks and rolled the dice on a war, which they lost and the Jews won.

For 75 years the Arabs have been hoping for a re-do, while Israel got on with things.

how that going for the Palestinians? Is it working out the way they hoped?

That’s interesting, but it still doesn’t answer the question.

even if you think Israel behaves like a narcissistic psychopath, how’s it going for the Palestinians?

Yes. I saw his interview with Piers Morgan.

I think Bassem Youssef had the perfect response to this.

“Dealing with Israel is like being in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath. He f you over and then makes you think it’s your fault”.

That’s right - both sides are living with consequences. Which side do you think is suffering more? Which side has the bigger incentive to change their strategy?

as I asked earlier, but nobody wanted to answer: we’re 75 years in from the independence of the State of Israel. How is the Palestinian’s strategy working out for them?Are they happy with what they’ve achieved? Is it going to plan?

I’m not sure what they’re meant to do? According to the video I mentioned earlier Israel was grabbing land right from 1948 and the only bits it didn’t get were the bits Egypt and Jordon managed to gain control of. Israel got those after the 6 day war.
Israel seems to view this land as theirs really and if it’s true that Israel was building settlements on the Palestinian Territories even during the Oslo accords then they are are obviously not interested in anything but their own agenda.
This MO resulted in fanatical terrorism on the part of the population they displaced. Go figure.

Another nugget that’s glossed over by the Israel genocide apologists

https://www.timesofisrael.com/carter-says-hamas-leader-committed-to-peace-netanyahu-not/amp/

Oh and then there’s all that inconvenient business of Netanyahu propping up Hamas for years because it suited his agenda of hindering Palestinian statehood.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/