Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome.

Thanks for the welcome, sad to be on this thread but it helps that you are all so lovely.

I am feeling a bit like a robot as i have just picked myself up and continued on as if nothing has happened. Came straight back to work on Monday and am now worried that at some point in the not to distant future somthing will set me off and that will be it, I will be a wreck for days. It may hit home once we are back at the fertility clinic, which should be within 10-12 weeks. I am just trying to lose some weight in the meantime, one because i need too and two, it gives me something to focus on.

Can anyone give me some advice, on Friday and Saturday i had some quite heavy bleeding but it was quite dark and then it tailed off, today it is getting heavier and is more like fresh blood. Does this sound OK?

Lovely sunny day in Norway today, so at least the sun is giving me something to smile about.

GLB when you say 'make a feature' of it, do you mean you've drawn a little face on it?!

DH has gone off on a two night business trip (he offered to stay, but have got back up with mum today and friend round tonight). So I went to the hospital on my own where I had blood test for HCG levels. Was hoping for a result within the hour, but they're going to call me back. Was also hoping to speak to someone about next steps, but obv have to wait for results.

Felt a bit teary, but haven't had the full-on waterworks that I did last time. Is that normal?

My mum's been great - although she thinks the NHS are rubbish for not investigating till you've had 3 in a row. She said there's no history of mc in her family. The women have all had really long cycles 6-7 weeks long, but she conceived both me and my sister without problem and has never had a mc herself. Her mum (my grandma) had her when she was 45, and my mum's closest sister had a baby when she was 42. So my eggs should be ok at 31.

So, despite beginning to have the sense of 'relief' that some of you have written about (waking up and knowing for sure you're not PG so not having to worry about it going wrong) am having morbid thoughts about ttc straightaway in order to get the 3rd MC out of the way. Perhaps not the healthiest of attitudes, it's only day 3 though I'm allowed to think like a freak for a bit.

MrsG/Pretty, no way is that where you are now? That caused you all that grief and turmoil?? Shocking. Sorry to hear that. Businesses change of course over time, and as they grow (too big IMHO), and the L'Oreal thing will have adjusted the culture also. I joined as a Xmas Temp whilst a student, went into store management, managed Brighton (in the days when Anita would come in to cash a cheque on a Saturday....) and then 3 years in the Training Department. I hardly know anyone there now, a couple of bods in Littlehampton and now London, but probably no one in the stores I would imagine... I had it in my head you worked in fashion? I do remember the benefits were always good for retail... loved the holiday!!!

Hi to all. 2nd acupuncture appointment tomorrow. Day 21 test to check progesterone level next week. No S(WorWO)I going on here... too darn pooped...

Tattiebyes.

Meant to say Digigirl - how are you today?

xx

MrsPretty - a non-chocolate prize, is there such a thing? Well done, you have done well, particularly not eating the bell. Did you take the foil off first though or would that have taken too much time?

WYG - I'm going to be stalking popping in lots still, still come here on autopilot when I get into work. I take it the trip over the pennines was just a day trip? Can't remember where in West Yorks you're from - I'm a Barnsley girl myself so not too far off.

Spots. I have a massive one on the end of my nose. There's no hiding it, so I'm accentuating it with makeup to make it an interesting "feature" on my face.

xxx

What's going on with this thread tonight?
I posted before and it didn't appear.

digigirl how are you holding up? Xx

Hello to BUnder, LadyBee and NBelle too, sorry you had to join but we're very nice if we do say so ourselves.

Happy so glad to hear things are good, I'll be thinking if you tomorrow.

Jolls not so much ex.
I'm bobbing on a bit and was 18 when you left.
They must have been " The good old days."

Cheepz I'll have to stop reading your posts whilst on public transport, a loud "Hmmmmm, Aaahhhhh" and nodding at my phone makes me look like a loon when alone on a packed bus.
You are quite right bout shifting focus.

I need a prize please
I finished my first Lindt bunny a second ago.
Didn't eat the bell though.
One down, one more and MrG's 1 egg to go.
Prize please.
Not chocolate .

Hi all
MrsG was there probably before you were even born... 1987-1997. Happy times.... Are you also ex TBS?

digital it's lovely your mum is coming to help you out and is so supportive... I know it's hard when people don't really understand the ins and outs of what we are going/have gone through. That's where we on here can help

Off to put flatpack furniture together. OOOO the excitement ... x

Hi- has this thread disappeared from the conception boards? Couldn't find it on there ?

Wyg- urggh spots are the worst, still haven't got rid of mine from last cycle

Evening ladies, I hope everyone is doing OK.

Digitalgirl Hope you are OK and resting?

GLB Great to see you on the Grads list - will you be leaving us is sticking around for a bit?

Ladybee I was responding to Cheepz as she was asking whether to SWI with/without precautions as she didn't want to get PG. I said I would def recommend SWI with no precautions!

Anyone done anything interesting today? I went to a conference in Liverpool and it was really interesting and in a great location.

No more queasy feelings for me and too early to test - need to wait to CD 37/38. Wondering if it was all a coincidence and to cap it all off, I have a spectacular eruption of spots which is a bit rubbish.

Digitalgirl- hope you are ok

Oh digitalgirl, I didn't quite realise that you were in the middle of miscarrying. Hope you have lots of RL support, and people taking care of you.

Thanks GLB for the explanations. I quite like the RTD expression!

Am now adding fortnums to the list...

Digital girl I'm so sorry to hear your having a pants time of it. Try to look after yourself - you are very brave.

I did do a long post earlier, but somehow it never posted! The short story us that clearly the pt came in a pack of two and of course I did the second this am - to the same bfn - Im a sadist! On phone now so will wave to everyone- hope all are doing ok in the sunshine today xx

Hi all , in work on stoopid phone so I'll catch up properly later.
sorry for not name checking.

Jolls how long ago did you work for TBS?

Congrats on your BFP goodluckbear can totally understand the trepidation at graduating.

Despite it being very obvious that I am miscarrying today I think I'll wait for my HCG blood test tomorrow before adding my stats to the list.

I also think I'll wait till the bleeding stops (probably in a couple of weeks) before deciding what to do next. Part of me would love to get pregnant again so quickly. But another part of me is wondering whether I should get my long cycles investigated first in order to minimise the risk next time. Perhaps a GP appointment first though.

Hi guys,

Thought I'd have a crack at doing the list, partly because I have given myself a talking to re: PMA (yes, positive mental attitude, just like in those adverts) so moving to grads. But someone clever (Cheepz, Viv??) can you check I did it ok??!?

(P.S. *Freezing - RTD is "red tide of doom", i.e. your period, 2WW is the 2 week wait, i.e. the average wait from ovulation to period/BFP...)

NBelle and Digital, glad you came here, sorry about your mc and everything you're going through. Would you like your stats putting on the list? BUnderBonnet - I've put you on at the bottom if that looks ok?

Hippy - I've taken you off but please come and say hi sometimes!!

Tuesday's List:

Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 7 CD59
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 4 CD37
Limelight TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 1 CD37
Liahgen TTC#6 UCL26 cycle 1 CD33
Scotchontherocks TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD32
Malteser1981 TTC#? UCL28 cycle 1 CD31
westyorkshiregirl TTC#1 UCL37 cycle 2 CD27
Gi1da TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD25
Urd TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD25
Allthe8s TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD22
Mummy3610 TTC#4 UCL 26-30 cycle 1 CD22
Moofold TTC#2 UCL~33 cycle2 CD20
clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 2 CD20
BunnyBaby TTC#3 UCL31 cycle 2 CD19
Icedlemonmuffin TTC#2 cycle 12 UCL24-32 CD19
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD18
LucyT66 TTC#1 UCL33-34 cycle 4 CD18
JulesAbs TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 2 CD15
albadetamble TTC#2 UCL25 cycle 2 CD14
slimyak TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 4 CD13
Pollyanna TTC#6 UCL27 cycle2 CD12
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD9
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD7
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD6
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 3 CD5

BUnderthebonnet TTC#2 UCL 28-36 CD ??

WTTC
Muser TTC#1 EP 18/02/10 on month 2 of 3 month wait
MrsGazebo TTC#1 MMC6 Molar 8/1/10. On 3-6 month wait
Cheepz TTC#2 MMC 26/3/10 6 week wait post ERPC
Jollster TTC#2 MMC 26/2/10 couple of cycles wait on acupuncturist advice
ElmMum TTC#2 MC 28/2-17/3/10 UCL 28/29 on cycle 1 of (self-imposed) 2 or 3 cycle wait
Freezing TTC#2 MC 28/3/10 on cycle 1 of 2 or 3 cycle wait
LadyBee TTC#2 ERPC 08/04/10

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
redandyellowandpinkandgreen BFP 6th March 2010
floweringcurrant BFP 8th March 2010
HappyGirl1 BFP 23rd March 2010
Unbuffy BFP 28th March 2010
Zayja BFP 2nd April 2010
Barrenbrook BFP 6th April 2010
Goodluckbear BFP 10th April

clare or marks and spencers maybe??

Have clearly baffled CBFM, will keep trucking with it - but ignore it as giving any indication until have next AF

I did use it straight away after Jan mc and got pg in Feb - but that was a very earlt mc so no HCG issues and timescales for recovery much faster...

am nearly ready for my 4 o'clock, just need to add a few more smart comments, spellcheck and check I haven't typed any umsnet post inadvertantly into my framework document!!! its happened before!

Clareanna better to nick one from Waitrose surely?

Quick hellos to all!

Moo the CBFM is obviously meant to confuse and puzzle - go for it tiger!

cheepz the CBFM advice says not to use the monitor straight after an MC - "If you have recently been pregnant (even if not carried to full term) I?d advise you to wait until you?ve had at least two natural menstrual cycles in a row (each lasting 21-42 days) before using the Clearblue Fertility Monitor. This is to ensure that you get accurate readings that are not affected by any hCG you may still have in your body just after pregnancy" I think you may have baffled its' brian.

digitalgirl - I had 2 weeks off work after my MMC at 12 weeks - I found my emotions were really quite volatile and i was prone to crying quite randomly, and didn't want that to happen in front of my team. Take Care and as much time as you need to feel a bit stronger emotionally.

Viv - how's the forehead? is it klingon like? hope you got home safe and sound?

I am a bit furious today. DH has been behaving in rather a coy fashion since discovering the CBFM. On mentioning this this morning (there has been hardly ANY action this month) he said "well, we wouldn't want a baby in January anyway" argh - yes we do want a baby - any baby as soon as poss in my opinion! (although obviously not planning to nick one from Tesco.
[gives self stern talking to] relax, breathe, enjoy life, it's fine if it doesn't happen this month...

cheepz are you also have your hcg levels tested by the epu or gp? I read that HCG can be used to induce ovulation, but they give 5-10K IU, and since your HCG are dropping I wouldn't expect you've ovulated, what do I know? Perhaps its just the WTF cycle messing with the monitor.
If you're waiting for a while before trying again, maybe just skip the CBFM for a while - but then I don't know if you're meant to keep doing it everyday simply to keep track of things

digital sorry you're here. I've also had 2 MC's (close together) and don't know where I'm at. Some days I feel really ANGRY, and other days just completely normal, and then think I must be some kind of cold-blooded robot because I don't think about it at all. I think it's a very good idea for you to take the week off work

I keep meaning to post but then get scared because it's so busy and I don't want to miss anyone out because I can't keep up so I'll start with a wave to everyone. and then try to keep up a bit more each day.

Almost forgot, can someone tell me what RTD and 2WW mean?

confused

did preg test last night to see about hcg levels dropping and its still showing positive but cbfm is stil showing peak?!! i am pretty sure its not possible to ovulate while hcg levels are still high enough to show positive which would mean i am jsut confusing my fertility monitor anyone know anything about when you can ovulate relative to hcg levels going?!

digital you are doing so well, it took me forever to even get past desparation to be pregnant asap

jolls we are on the same path!

viv take care today eh?! no waling under ladders

ladybee glad work went ok - i am finding work a welcome distraction

right - have big meeting with boss later and need to stop procrastinating! x

Ladybee yes, I do hope that no-one else from there has to join us. I had the last due date so, morbidly, odds are most people who would have mc'ed have done so now.

cheepz everything you say makes sense. I'm still going through through the stages, you can almost track them through my MN posts. But am sure once I reach acceptance of this i'll do as all you strong women on here have done, I'll just keep going.

Have decided to take the rest of the week off work despite the pain not really being that bad.

My mother is on her way to help look after DS. I'm going to have to explain that 'no, its nothing I did'; 'no, positive thinking will not stop this from happening right now'; 'the doctors can't do anything to save the baby, because there is no baby'. My mother is wonderfully supportive, but doesn't understand the technicalities of pregnancy or miscarriage.