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Blue I missed what you said about there being another angel in heaven.

The reason my dh is being so relaxed about it is because he's global head of risk & analytical services at his company so he calculates risks & odds for a living, therefore he thinks our odds are pretty good.

Yes must just add that i went in hospital chapel after physio today & asked god to take care of monkeys baby & to give them all the strength to get through this.. Have been thinking of her all day..

monkey another one sending my thoughts, was thinking of you at work today. blue i cried when you said another angel in heaven tonight, i hope all our lost lo's are up there together.

mls i'm afraid i have no experience of what you are going through, but big hugs and fingers crossed, these girls seem to know the best advice

As far as i know our 3rd babys massive nuchal fold was definately indicitive of one of the trisomys, either downs, edwards or pattaus & we hadnt even had bloods done when we were first told of poss outcomes, that was from the fold measurements alone.. In fact altho bloods were done it was all based on the measurements for us.. After all the mc the risk of amnio was too much for us so id def investigate further scans etc.. Hope im helping!

MLS - you sound a bit calmer. As I said in my txt and as Vjay said, early bleeding does sqooiff their statistics and probabilities and affected my odds with both boys. I was not far from cut off for downs with Ben..

FWIW DH cousin has DS2 with downs and nothing showed up on scan, nuchal fine no other soft markers so it works both ways.

Glad your DH has been a good help.

monkey brave, strong lady I hope and pray you were treated wth the utmost care and attention today xxxxx

There's another angel in heaven tonight..

Dh home, he can't understand why I'm worrying. He thinks the odds are good & we should definitely not have a private scan. Not helpful.

Thanks 4ever, would a baby with ds definitely have a thicker nuchal fold or just sometimes? Oh God I have about a million questions whizzing about in my head.

Thanks girls. Yes I've managed to get hold of dh who is being very helpful. He's spoken to a guy who works for him who had a similar thing happen I didn't realise but their odd were actually 1 in 18. They opted for an amnio which came out all clear & she was due to give birth over the weekend but is now overdue. Dh has mentioned having a private scan & I think they would check for other soft markers. I am more keen to have an amnio than he is, if anything is wrong with the baby I'd rather know & be prepared. I really really want to speak to my lovely consultant, I've emailed him loads of questions but I don't think he actually works in the hospital more that a day or so a week.

Monkey still thinking about you.

Mls 1.3mm is absolutely fine & of no major risk! Ours was 6mm which went to 8mm, monkeys was 3.1mm.. If they are simply goin on the bloods which could of been affected by dates & ur illness or bleed i would absolutely insist upon another scan to check for soft markers & perhaps re do ur bloods before u even consider tests.. Remember age comes into play & whilst researching our nuchal fold issue i read many stories where outcomes were absolutely fine.. Hope this helps a bit.. X

Sorry for quick post, have been away, but wanted to post to monkey and say that i've been thinking of you loads today and am so sorry that I couldn't post to you before and give you more support.

I can't imagine what you are going through, but I hope that you can take some small crumb of comfort from this thread and know that we are all thinking of you. Xxx

will post properly tomorrow.

Could they offer you another scan to look for soft markers without the risk to your baby that CVS and Amnio could be? Have you tracked down your DH yet?

The nuchal fold was 1.3mm. She said one of my hormones was slightly raised but also said that this can happen if you've had a bleed which I did two weeks before. Also I've read that if your dates are inaccurate then that can affect the results & they have now added a whole week onto the dates that I've calculated.

Oh Mls how bloody awful, after all the worry of bein in hospital as well as whats goin on with monkey.. If its borderline cut off point, personally id be cautious re tests cos of mc risk & often the case that odds can be bad but baby can go onto be fine.. Do u know what nuchal fold measurement was? Were there any oth 'soft markers'? (nasal bone etc) Im just back from work then hospital after physio for spd & only on 3hrs sleep so not functioning v well but will be lurking if u need to chat! X x x x x

just a quick pop in to say thinking of monkey xxxxxxx

MLS I'm not sure what to advise, will a huge hug be any good?

Girls I need some advice please. I've just got a call from the hospital re my nuchal test. I'm 1 in 150 which is their cut-off point. They are offering me a cvs or an amnio & I don't know what to do.

Monkey I know we have been in touch but I just want to publicly display the united front of strength we are all sending you my brave lady... MLS is right, the thread is deeply affected in a rare way by todays events.. It just hasnt been right to chat for the last few days... Cupcake I forward your text to Monkey as you cant post right now..

Monkey I hope you are feeling the strength that we are all sending to you. You have affected the thread today in a way that I've never seen before. I hope we get to hear from you soon as we are all anxiously waiting to hear that you have come out of the other side & we are all here to wrap you in cotton wool. xx

Sorry not been here for a while but just wanted to say thinking of you today monkey sending you all my love xxxxxxxxxx

Thinking of you Monkey xxxxx

We'll all be here waiting for you when you return.

It somehow doesn't seem right to chat today on monkey's sad day.

Thanks for the conjunctivitis advice everyone.

DDs must have realised today was very important to me and allowed me time to catch up. Your posts have all been so poignant since Monkey's sad news came out and I have been literally sobbing reading them. I'm really honoured to be part of such a wonderful group of women and feel guilty that I've not been able to give you support Monkey. You sound so strong and focused lovely and , even if it's just the shock, I hope it's enough to pull you through today. I also hope you get some reminders of your beautiful little angel as they are sure to bring you comfort in the dark times ahead. It will seem a long way off now, but one day the sun will shine for you again and no one deserves it more. Take comfort in your lovely son, husband and dad and know that your mum will be there to lok after this little one. You're in my thoughts.

Jools Lovely to see you. Don't go away.

MLS Hope yopu have your feet up.

Gracie Try a little breast milk in her eyes - yes seriously!

Will be back soon with details of Hannah. Want to share my birth story with you all too but now is not the time or the place.

She's screaming now so have to go. Love to everyone else.