Are you (a) tired of ttc (b) have sore ladybits from SWIing ! If this sounds like you then hop aboard.

10 grand!!! Ouch. Would be worth it if it did work and that was the only way we could get a baby. Well might try and get some scans etc done privately if it takes too long on the NHS. We'll see what the wank sperm and blood tests come back with. My GP wants to give me an internal examination, so will have to wait til the RTD is over.

Um is that Psychology or biology? How much caffeine does he have?

TH is an amateur Psychologist (me got a degree in it) as he thinks its cos I am so stressed we can't make a babyyyyyyyyyyy. He is probably right. I have got the hypnotherapy thing on my ipod now so should be able to listen to it. Fingers crossed as I am a bit deaf and can't hear it on the laptop.

Anyway TH wants to get fit (my idea). But he wants to get a bike. Surely that will kill the sperm. Men!

Fairy, I am one of 3, but neither sibling (both older than me, sis just turned 40) are showing any sign of producing a grandchild, so I am even more grateful for my ds, I am not sure I could cope with my mum if we were still trying for #1. They think they have troubles wanting a grandchild! My mum doesn't do yoga lou but she is greatly into amateur psychology and currently believes that dh's sperm lazyness is caused by too much caffeine. This is because she has been told that it thins her bones (osteporosis) Not sure how you get from bones to sperm, but hey, these mums are clever at these things!

Thank you again all, for listening.

Fairy, I am so sorry for cons being silly, I can only hope that you are better than me at telling your dh to go wank in a pot And hoping that your dh is better at doing what he is told asked.

About 10 grand I think!!! We are entitled to 2 free goes as we don't have any other children so I'm a bit of a bargain hunter & want what I'm entitled to!

My mum just keeps on - she already has 3 grandchildren but wants one from me really. It just makes me feel guilty but it's not my choice this is happening. I had a gut feeling this would happen to me when I was in my late teens before the PCOS even started! I'm just glad that we got started early. We'd only been together 6 months when we started trying (first time being an accident really but nothing happened obviously).

tesco are selling cadbury cream egg ice-creams for £1!!!!

Fairy I think I might go private after I have had my bloods back as I think I might die before the NHS do anything! They take so long its untrue.

I say that but not sure how much it all costs. Has anyone got any idea? About the cost of scans / consultants etc etc??

Here's a and left over easter eggs.

Umbungo heres a hug and some cake. My mum has been keeping her nose out of my baby fail. Think we might argue if she did comment. She does mention pre conception yoga every so often which is good for her. But no rude comments. PS My mum thinks yoga is the best thing in the world.

Umbongo You have a mum like mine then??? It takes ages for an appointment to appear on female side so god knows how long it takes for a bloke.

I think the medical profession need a kick up the arse. Phone cons this morning & PA said she'd phone me back. 4pm came & still no call so I phoned her back only to be told (2 months after my app & 1 month after I did my last lot of tests to make sure everything was up to date) that she may need DH to have more recent tests!!!!!! for Gods Sake!!! Why has it taken for me to chase for this to find out.

Lots of needed! and a cuppa

Hi all, sorry rtd got you Lou.

Well, this mornings doctors appt was a waste of time, she only wanted us both to go in so she could refer us as a couple! She said that it was because I had not been in, so I said that I had had my bloods done, and she tapped at her computer and said yes and they look fine, so I think that she hadn't spotted that I had been in. I have wasted so much time dreading this appt and we were only there so she could tick the box labelled "seen both", so now she can refer dh to the goolie checkers. I have done so much crying over this, and now I am off again for some stupid reason, probably because it wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be. (please can I be a bloke, it looks much easier!?)

I did discover this morning that dh says that it takes more effort to ejaculate and there seems to be less of it than there used to be. So what that means, I really don't know. [Note to self - try DO not translate that into dh thinking I am now fat and ugly]

It could be 2-3months before we get an appointment with the goolie gropers.

Why do I still feel bad, even when it is not me that needs further tests?

My mum, while I am having a rant, felt the need to tell me yesterday that one of her cronies friends son and his wife are pg with #2 after trying for 10 years for #1. WHY does she think that that makes me feel remotely better.

Thank you for listening ladies! I am off for several

I bet they are having a fab time but I demand they come back & do the job they are destined to do - stop running away!!!

I'm still waiting on the call back from the cons!

xx

I knew it would. Do you think all our ovaries are on a piss up together? Think they are havign all the alcohol I haven't been having. Would make sense. Anyway should be able to go to doctor for test results and internal exam this week / early next week. Oh joy.

Yay to spring. You are right Fairy.

Aww Lou! xxx

RTD arrived in line with thoughts of HPTs!!

Good Luck Umbungo Let us know how you get on. Just phoned my cons to find out where my IVF referral is & waiting on a call back.

I think my overies are on a perminant piss up in Mexico or some other party city with lots of alcohol that they've forgot what they're supposed to be doing or where they're are supposed to be!

Lou I have 2 upstairs in the bathroom that you can have as I feel that I'll prob never use them as even if we get IVF then they'll know before I need to use it!

Gotta say the sun is shining & the weather is warmer - Spring is finally here!!!!

xxx

Good luck Umbungo!!

Still no rtd. Am officially one day late. But then I always used to be a 28 day girl. Maybe just stabilising. I seem to have lost the only HPT I own. Maybe for the best as RTD is likely to come when I take the test. Am also going to see my friend's new born so that's likely to bring it on.

Thank you all for your comments, I am so glad I am not paddling this canoe by myself! I don't know how to decide that we are not ttc, just having sex! (or heaven forbid we actually made it back to making love!)

We have joint docs appt in the morning so really ought to be trying to talk to dh rather than you lot!!!

LOL Iced I agree with your husband & I don't want detention! lol. We're just 'special' thats all! hahah

Hi girlies,

I wonder how many couples are actually having the same arguments up & down the country? We seem to argue the most around RTD time. We never actually say it's the TTFC but I'm sure it all stems from the same frustration. I was told to take it easy now I'm on the road to IVF but I don't want to feel like I'm giving up. I think I need to get my head around that first. I just refuse to be a 'failure' when I should see it as I have 'special needs' (am a school teacher & always had to fight for things in my life - even getting here before TTFC was a fight due to the amount of crap I attract).

Hope I don't sound too depressing. I just think we're all in the same boat with different journies!

Lets have some fun again!

Iced you are right. Its not a load of nonsense. Its hard as its so depressing. RTD hasn't officially started yet just brown mucus. nice. Don't have any cramps.

My DS is so cute. He is just learning about role play and gets his toys to kiss. Am enjoying sleep when he's not teething. There are so many things to be thankful for.

Anyways we are going to start going to bed earlier to see if that makes a difference with regards to SWI / shagging in general. Sex used to be fun and am sure it can be again.

In fact he told me that I was partly to blame for it. It didn't make him feel like wanting to have sex with me when I was like this all the time.

Looks like its another month of waste for me. Though spotting didn't start as early as it did last month. Am totally gutted though. Totally gutted. Have had enough. Think DH blames me for baby fail as I seem to get so stressed by it all.