Are you (a) tired of ttc (b) have sore ladybits from SWIing ! If this sounds like you then hop aboard.

HOORAY Congratulations Polly Well done, I am so pleased that it can happend even for us old timers!!!! Happy Christmas Polly!

FG1 Not quite decided on my tat yet, but there is certainly enough belly to hang out! Oooh do I have to get my belly button pierced so that can hang out in a great red infected lump too?

Thanks Iced - do you know, I hadn't even thought of that!

Of course it is early days and I'm trying not to get too excited. But have already worked out I am due 27 December.

Well, I got more +ives! The faintest ever shadow on the ebay cheapie - so faint in fact, that if I'd had that result yesterday I prolly wouldn't even have seen it. BUT the FR gives a definite YES!

I am mostly feeling very shocked. I was in de nile yesterday and even tried to drink a cider last night, but it tasted foul which just confirmed things for me. Same as last time I have immediately gone off booze and coffee.

I see a faint line too but don't want to get your hopes up!

UMbongo you decided on that tat yet? You need one in fancy writing saying 'mum' either on your chest or the top of your arm, maybe a crying heart on your foot or ankle! You neec to bright blonde streaks in your hair & always have your belly hanging out.

Thanks Lou. I am trying not to get too excited just in case. Tis true - I seriously had decided to forget about ttc and live my life. FFS!

Your stalker here. Looks like a line to me.

I will wait til you have a proper line before celebrating. See its cos you decided you weren't sure you wanted another baby

At least even if it was an evap line, your cycles are behaving. Maybe I will have my acupuncture session next week. But I did make it to 14 dpo before spotting last month which was a miracle for me.

Laydeez I have posted 2 photos on my mn profile so you can see if you think it is a line or if I am truly menkul. {grin}

Bit scared now! Am not going to think about it - it really is so faint I could be making it up. Will check again tomorrow or sunday and let you know.

OMG! Fingers crossed its not an evap line!

Hello my lovely stalker Lou! Well I did POAS, went off to dress Boo, came back and swore I could see faint line. Took photos with phone and camera, obviously discarding any pics that didn't show the line... now I am not sure if it is evap, just the shadow of the strip of stuff with the chemicals on iykwim, or a 100% genuine duff guarantee. Gah!

But then again I am still only 11DPO/CD28. Even if I am not up the duff this a major effin miracle in itself!

Polly I see your temp is still up [stalker emoticon]. No sign of the dreaded droid then! You tried to POAS or are you gonna wait til the weekend? Even if you have not won a baby this is good news? Fingers crossed you do and you never have to use the clomid.

Um you are right there is weird shit but maybe will try alternative stuff again in a few months. Just want to concentrate on getting fit / non baby stuff.

No sorry Lou, don't have any connection with website apart from clicking on it cos I like the song!

I wouldn't worry too much about alternative medicine, you will always find reports that say it is all a load of tosh, but there are also reports that say it works. Homeopathy works on animals, so how they say that they know about placebos I don't know. It is all in a catagory I call "Weird shit" that seems to work but no-one knows how! Same as reflexology etc!

My tattoo doesn't have to be spelt right does it?

( I think I may be tired, my typing is appalling - I am wearing out the delete key and when writing spelt, wrote it as slept twice) Night night all.

I was ok with the needles until I started reading this book and website. Apparently in studies done the needles are no more effective than placebo needles put anywhere on the body. I probably shouldn't have read the book but didn't realise it covered acupuncture and homoeopathy and how there was no studies to prove they worked. Damn me for trying to read something more intelligent than Marian Keyes (I heart her).

Have fun in Bath. I should be working so off I go.

Lou the only way I can listen to that hypno CD is asleep - the woman's voice is so annoying and I'm sure her use of english language is crap. She doesn't finish sentences off properly. Or maybe it is just that I am drifting off!

Shame you are stopping the needles, they can take up to 3 months to work fully, but I know its not for everyone. Good news about the doctors - at least you should get moved along fairly quickly now. I also keep making noises about getting fit, but the only time I have is when Boo is at preschool and I always seem to have so much to fit into those precious few hours.

Must go and get arse in gear, lunch with friend in Bath today and I am not dressed. Or showered. In fact, I am still wearing yesterdays make-up

I once cooked pork belly in my 2ww it was so salty it smelt like fish. I convinced myself that was a symptom but TH thought the same. Still believed it. That and forgetting how to indicate on my car. Thought I must be losing my marbles therefore won a baby. Nope. Wrong again. Maybe it is a sign but at least no sign of RTOD that is always the best sign.

No more hypno for me. Just need to listen to the MP3 player track I have got.

Think I might get a personal trainer and concentrate on getting fit. Might be a plan now I am stopping hypno and acupuncture and concentrating on fun stuff!

Morning Lou I have just updated chart temp dipped a little, but only as low as the first triphasic day, iykwim.

BUT I was lulled by false sense of security of the temp and POAS, in fact I peed on 2 sticks - an ebay early/cheapie and an FR. BFN on both. Fucksticks. Meh. And then TG said "well that'll teach ya" (for testing easly. Insensitive twat!

No other symptoms except yesterday I treated myself and mate to coffee at the hell that is softplay centre and it tasted foul, really bitter. Mate said hers was fine, so I made her drink mine and she said there was nothing wrong with it. Maybe she just likes really bad coffee or maybe it is a symptom. Am officially in a bad mood now though and will not be getting hopes up. I feel like I hate my body today. Bah.

Anyway enough moaning about me. How is everyone else?

So pol am waiting with bated breath for the next instalment of Temperature Watch. Not that I have already checked your chart for any signs or am stalking you!

Umbungo do you have something to do with the website I have linked to.

Triphasic is when you have two separate temperature rises. Can be a sign of mentalness pregnancy.

Umbungoumbongotheydrinkitinthecongo I think a rose tattoo will be better with the ex love of your life's name on it. Wayne is a good bet though. You will need to name kiddy from where he was conceived. Peckham has a good ring to it.

Umbungo you also forgot that you are not supposed to know the name of the father of the babyyyyyy and baby going to be called Kylie.

Polster fingers crossed you are going triphasic.

Anyways have been to the docs and according to the bloods I am ovulating and prolactin is not too high. Just need the results of wank test and we can be referred onwards. Not sure how long waiting lists are though. Might go private.