EWCM? BBT? OPK? WTF?! We’re just not using contraception!

Oh no brassica, I hope the barminess is a good, JS kind of barminess, and not something horrible. I am finding it impossible to work, and am about to get busted .... back later.

only half able to catch up while working, but didn't want to drop off the face of the world.

Sorry you're body is messing you around takethat Will stop by properly shortly

I'm going slightly barmy too this week.

Takethatlady don't be silly! You're not being self-centred at all and don't worry about the super early miscarriage. It happens a LOT and most people don't even realise it.

Pregnancy ok so far. Much more stressed about whether it is all ok this time round. First time round I hardly gave it a thought until the 12 week scan (I got away with feeling completely fine). 8.5 weeks and desperate to have the scan to know it is for real. This wait feels worse than the 2 week wait! Working hard, missing the grog HUGELY and feeling nauseous every now and again....and whacked.

Enjoy the Pimms I say!

Hi, can I join you please??!

Had my mirena removed two weeks ago, had a period and now we're just going for it! I think I'm ovulating as I have period type pains, which is what I used to get.

Dh would luuurve a boy, so we're half heartedly swaying, but tbh as I'm 39 (40 in Sept) we just want a bfp!!

Have not got a clue what most of the abbreviations so sure I will be asking dumb questions at some point !

PS loopeylu, I'm really sorry to hear you had an early miscarriage like that. Sorry for being so self-centred in my last post. How's your pregnancy going?

loopeylu you are so right! 44 days since last AF but I'm going to put it down to hormonal craziness, a cold, and spending too much mental energy on those darn tests! DH thinks I am absolutely crazy. He's wrong, obviously

Anyway, I'm going out tomorrow, and if I have a Pimms or five I'm not going to feel guilty about it If there is a little seed in there, it will probably enjoy the break from alcohol-free stressing ...

Thanks loopey. Lots of people have said similar things to me over the past couple of days (but lots have also been saying 'a line is a line' etc etc), but somehow you put it the right way at the right time. Bring on Pimm's o'clock, I say. It's much more reliable than those bloody test reaction times...

Takethatlady - ditch the early pregnancy tests (like First Response). They mess with your mind! I got a couple of faint positives the first month of JSing (with intent!) and, having been as regular as clockwork, was then 3 days late. Dr said it was a super early miscarriage and that if it hadn't have been for the wretched first response test I wouldn't have been any the wiser. Second month of JSing I did a normal Boots test (having vowed never to use a hyper sensitive First Response style test again) when I was a day late - got a BFN so assumed I could sink a bottle of wine (which I duly did). Still no sign of my period 3 days later - did another test and BFP.

I say, have a drink, ditch any more tests and keep JSing..and forget super sensitive, cheapy tests. You might find out you're pregnant when you get the blood test result but at least you haven't gone insane in the meantime.

Go girl!

Willing all you girls on - keen for you to replicate this kind of attitude on a pregnancy thread soon! Haven't found a home there yet.

Just did a First Response. Unequivocally BFN. Have to wait a week for blood test results. Hopefully I'll know by then.

Am resigned to a) not being pregnant and b) not being able to use early tests because I have an uncanny knack of either misinterpreting or misusing them, or something, or of getting false BFPs. Blocking out the hope that I just have very low HCG levels ... [puts hands over ears and yells 'la la la' at top of lungs]

Good one, frakkit, keeping both me and Harder in line! We can't lose the essence of this thread!

I'm going out for my birthday tomorrow. Don't know whether to drink or not. If only AF could come, I could get soooo plastered I really think two bottles of wine and some vodka shots might make me feel better

But I'll probably be little miss misery guts on the pineapple juice...

Hey frakkit, yeah it'll mess with my dates but I think I may have ovulated on 15th June - so either way it would either be too early to test or too early to get AF. As a late period is really a late ovulation, it would make some kind of sense ...

Have another BFP this morning. After 5 mins it was negative, then I knocked the wick off the cellulose strip by mistake and there was a line there where the dye had pooled. I know from peeonastick.com that this is negative, but then that line travelled up the test area and has remained pink only on the test line. My DH did a test (I'm just using up tests on a whim now!) and we did the same thing, and the line travelled up and the whole thing turned white again straight away.

I am finding new and weird ways of getting BFPs, at least ...

No. No loopholes. No OPKs and no acronyms!!!!

Seriously stress is the enemy of conception and stressing about conceiving is therefore completely illogical, as is using one of those kit thingys in the first month. At least give it one cycle - your body is a pretty amazing thing and it will bounce back.

Welcome, harder.

Takethat - well at least the doctor is also confused! Fingers crossed for it being a pregnancy but that will screw with your dates based on your last period, won't it?

Vallinna - if it's bad they hide the screen. If you're fine then they don't care and even let you look!

See, I would agree if I was using OPKs and TTC - but as I'm NOT TTC, just allowing my body to get back to normal and being curious, surely, surely one little OPK is OK?

looks desparately around for loophole

Hello Harder [waves and feels an imaginary pregnancy twinge]. Aren't we all getting serious on this thread?! We need to lighten up, I think, what with all these doctor's appointments and sneaky OPKs!

So I'll tell you my only symptom (except for dizziness and tiredness, which could be from the JSing)... I am getting stomach cramps like bad period pains after the big O ... yep, and I told the doctor, who looked even more than me as I said it. If that's not a pregnancy symptom then I've got a JS problem!

Ovulation predictor kit - basically just before you ovulate you get a surge of a particular hormone and you can pee on this stick which tells you whether or not you got the surge (and will therefore ovulate).

Hope you get your answers soon takethat! Let us know x

Welcome Harder! (love the name!)

Hard to talk TTC without being TMI sometimes. Im glad its just not me trying to be so perticular and robotic even about conception and birth days ect as I have now kinda sold myself on a september or october baby so may have to hold off for a bit longer but dont want it not to work to roll over in to a january or februaury baby as we have to many of those in the family already!

Whats an OPK?

Can I join? Had my Mirena removed last Wednesday (as I think a couple of others have on this thread). RTOD arrived on Friday, which I am counting as CD1. "Official" TTC begins September 1st but DH has not bought home any condoms and we have our first shag tonight - I think he might be planning to pull out (sorry, way way TMI), although I have explained to him this is not by any means contraception!!

Ideally I would like to conceive in November - want to lose a bit of weight first, I'm not HUGE but want my BMI to be below 25, an would love a July baby!!

So, considering I am not TTC this month, am I allowed to use an OPK? I just can't believe that after 14 years suppressing ovulation (I was 14 when I went on the Pill and had only had three periods!) my body will now ovulate to order. It almost feels a bit selfish and spolied to expect that it will, like my egg is a gift from my ovary I have been snubbing for 14 years and now I want it!! Very stupid. So I sort of wanted to OPK this month to see if I am ovulating. That is pathetic, isnt it?

Went to the docs, took my positive test with me. She agreed it looked like a faint positive and was scratching her head at the missed period, etc. Have to have a blood test tomorrow, results the same day. She thinks either an early mc (so early it doesn't really count) or early conception. Fed up of waiting!

frakkit - nothing I could make out. Is that good or bad?!

Oh and a whacking great black space that I assumed was my empty uterus

Fingers crossed for you takethat

We have my mother staying with us when I'm due to test next. Am not entirely sure I can cope with that so I have lots of sympathy for you gormers!

I really wish you'd asked for a pic, vallinna - did you get to see anything or did they do that annoying sonographer thing of hogging the screen?!

Hope you get seen soon miffles. It's crazy how long wait for fertility specialists are.

Sorry i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/cashorcheque/positivepregnancytest.jpg

Alright, one more post. I have tried to upload a photo from my phone of what I think is the positive test. Do people agree? (Not sure this link will work.)

i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/cashorcheque/positivepregnancytest.jpg

PS (final post, I promise). Docs is at 4. I'll let you ladies know. Does anyone know if you get the results there and then?

PS gormers, do you and your DH pass each other on your way to/from work? Maybe there's a nice layby you could utilise?

Or you could meet him on his lunch/dinner break and do him in the loos.

Who knew JSing could be so romantic?!!!

Thank you ladies. I can always count on this thread to cheer me up! PMSL at vallinna walking like John Wayne! Sounds like you're going to have a brilliant weekend.

Trying to keep sane. Not really managing it. Working from home today, have Jeremy Kyle on (insane enough in itself), and am starting to feel like the rest of the world is super-fertile. I might write to them about their false advertising. Anyone watching this show for the first time would be led to believe that unprotected sex actually produces babies, lol!

Anyway, if it's negative at the doctor's, I am throwing away all the internet cheapie tests. They cause me too much grief. Then I'll have to buy expensive tests and I'll only test when I'm properly late (though God knows when that is). So perhaps this is just my initiation into the TRUE mentality of JSing!

vallinna, if only you had that picture You could have put it on a dartboard and taken all your frustrations out on it (well, not all your frustrations ... sounds like those can be saved for the weekend )

Awh takethat what an arse. Why do our bodies (and/or technology) do this to us?? At least with a blood test you will know for certain.

As i have been completely flying in the face of this thread (temp charting, doc visits, dildo-cams) I am announcing I have a long weekend away planning for copious amounts of JS sex. I aim to be walking like John Wayne by Monday

Oh my god - takethat, I'm so sorry to hear that your body is still playing tricks on you. Well done for keeping sane with this, I wouldn't be v

Hoping so so much that a blood test will show a bfp, you deseve it!

Good luck, will be thinking if you.xx