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Just MC...Long haul, short haul, ranting, weeping, laughing all encouraged. Oldies and newbies very welcome

991 replies

liahgen66 · 22/02/2010 21:46

Ok, feel a bit scared actually starting the new thread but here we are, for however long (or short) our time here may be.

Off you go ladies. Welcome () one and all.

OP posts:
malteser1981 · 25/02/2010 15:09

and I have no IT skills and can't get the faces to work or can I?

malteser1981 · 25/02/2010 15:06

Oh Alba, you must be feeling terrible. Wish I had comforting words to make you feel better.
On a more positive note - you are having the bloods done (and from experience I can't imagine the labs bouncing them as it's quite a 'routine' (not to us) test), I know it's a longer wait than any of us would want but the wheels are in motion.
As for the urine sample, you have a through GP who is sending a sample for culture to the lab to ensure no infection persists, if the nurse just dipsticked it it would take a minute but only shows up if there stuff in your urine (blood, protein, leucocytes) that may indicate is an infection. The sample to the lab is the gold standard as if there is still an infection the results give sensitivites (which antibiotic is suitable. But if you feel better, don't worry about the result. I know it feels as if no-one cares - but we do.
To Mrs G - fingers crossed for you.

I'm already having palpitations about going back to work on monday after 2 weeks off following my MC. I'm a midwife, ironic or what? I love my job, but at the moment I would rather stick pins in my eyes than be surrounded by all that joy, and pregnant women and babies and....everything. (sad)

clareanna · 25/02/2010 14:53

urd so sorry to hear your news - this is a good place to be
CC pas us a choocy krispie - am hitting the 3pm slump!

clareanna · 25/02/2010 14:51

hi all - illegally on here from work so have to be quick.
The anger and sadness following an MC is awful and my thoughts are with those of you who are having a bad day. The thought of having another MC has made me very scared / ambivalent about trying again, and I can't imagine how I'll feel if I do get pregnant again - it's not going to be easy that's for sure.... I've also considered just not putting us through it again, but at the moment we're going to give it another go...

I've started tracking my emotions through my cycle (after the mental PMT crying fit last week) and am now on CD7 after a bit of a weird AF made its' first appearance since ERPC(lots of stopping and starting IYKWIM) Today is mainly a positive, optimistic, soon-time-to-get-out-the-tightie-whities-for-DH day!
We're going on hols for 3 weeks next week, so if that doesn't do the trick I don't know what will (although we are staying with family)
MrsG - good to hear from you - hope you get some answers this afternoon.
Viv - it's not just blokes who have passport issues - I have done the expired passport one, (did you know you can still fly to spain on an expired one?!) the stolen one, the lost one - all at the airport.... many people refuse to travel with me now... In my defence I have got slightly more organised with increased age, and decreased alcohol consumption.
goodluckbear can't compete, but how about MMC, DH redundancy, my promotion postponed, boiler broken, key broken off in front door and weird acne on chest appearing all in the last 4 weeks?! Sometimes you've got to laugh... (or drink!)

AlbaDeTamble · 25/02/2010 14:46

Hi urd, so sorry you had to find us, but it is a comfy armchairs kinda place and it helps us all keep going.

Mmmmm, chocolate crispie cakes, yum, thanks . I've just looked around my kitchen and it all looks much too healthy. Apart from the wine bottle of course, but I have an afternoon of work to get through before I can start on that...

urd · 25/02/2010 14:40

Hello all, I'm new on here. I have sat and read all the threadsfor the last three days in tears as I am at home recovering from ERPC on Sat. I started bleeding last Tues and in my heart I just new. Hospital was brilliant with advice etc,couldnt fault them. I was 11w4d but they said probably stopped growing about 8 weeks. I am 40 in March and have a son 11 & daugh 6. Although I feel as low as can be this site has been really comforting. I have just found this thread and although it is so sad what everyone has been through I feel it somewhat uplifting knowing I really want to ttc again and I shall come on this site to see how everyone is.Good luck all.xxxx

CCBloom · 25/02/2010 14:06

Ladies my heart is going out to you all today. I actually have a wonderful GP but when I had my MC and made an emergency appt with my surgery I had to see a different doctor who had the worst bedside manner I have ever come across. I had brought a sample of the blood and possible clots on a tissue to ask if he thought they were clots and had put the tissue in a clear polythene bag but when I lifted it out to show him he turned up his nose, didn't even look at it and looked at me as if I had just thrown up over his desk. Then at the EPU the staff just talked to each other and didn't explain anything to either me or DP. In fact we were sat down the corridor from the consulting room when we overheard them say so CC has MCd shall we get her back in for her results!! Then they showed me a 'normal' scan picture to show me how mine was different!!! As if the experience wasn't traumatic enough was it too much to ask for some sensitivity. In fact the nurse even said to me 'sorry have I upset you?!!!!

Thankfully I have been back to my lovely GP and explained that we want to ttc and do everything we can to prepare. He recommended checking that my rubella vaccine was still effective so went for blood tests today. Have one week to wait for results and then if I need to update the vaccine we can't ttc for two months. I'm 30 and all of this is so new to me. Part of me wants to do anything I can to protect the next pregnancy but the other part is struggling with a possible enforced 2 month ban on ttc when the results come back.

Sorry I know so many of you have had other more extreme examples of dealing with doctors and hospital staff but I really can't believe they have become so desensitised in their jobs and don't realise that they are talking to us about something that is so important and affects our hopes and feelings so intensively.

Ok rant over, pass me those chocolate crispie cakes, the banana, apple and pack of walnuts on my desk at work just aren't cutting it!!

Allthe8s · 25/02/2010 13:24

I am so sorry everyone is having a pants day today, I think it's been one of those weeks

It was actually my counsellor who arranged my follow ups after losing dd2 and she has stuck with me through my recent mmc too chasing people up. Lets hope MN got somewhere with their Code of Practice campaign today.

Passing round the choccy rice krispie cakes again

xxxxxxxxxxx

Icedlemonmuffin · 25/02/2010 12:30

Sorry to every one having a crap time.

When you have an mc it destroys your world , takes away all your hopes and dreams that you had for your baby and your family. It creates such a deep empty space inside that feels like it is never going to be filled.

But to the medical profession it's just a mc, no big deal happens all the time!!! They are not professionals they are heartless b*stards.

A bit of understanding and compassion would go a long way!

Sorry for the rant just really horrible that so many of us are treated so crap.

liahgen66 · 25/02/2010 12:08

hippy I am 43 now too and getting worried. Period hasn't arrived today so far and day 28 post erpc now. Was hoping it would appear today so i know everything is back to normal, but am secretely terrified that it'll never come back.

The doc I saw at our hosp post scan to confirm mmc said that it might keep happeneing now at my age and if i use progesterone it might make my body hang onto a pg that nature would have discarded. He had a great bedside manner
I am not listening to him,

Come on, there's hope for us, thousands of women our age get pregnant, stay pregnant and go on to have healthy babies, we can do this.

That said, this was my 2nd in a row since December 08. 4 altogether spaced over a few years.

Sorry to everyone having a shit time, it'll get better, it has to right? it can't get any bloody worse.

OP posts:
Unbuffy · 25/02/2010 11:58

Everyone trying to fight their way through the nhs has my deepest sympathy. The system makes me SO VERY ANGRY. When i was in hospital for erpc (arrived 9am) I was told i would have to go away and come back the nest day (That was at 4.30pm) and continue to be nil-by-mouth all that time. I only got the proceedure that day because at that point i went totally nuts got a bit hysterical. and i still didn't get home until 11pm. and fil is currently very ill/dying and they won't even give him a diagnosis - he's been waiting 4-5 months and they still don't know what's wrong. we're supposed to have one of the best health systems in the world aren't we? At least we used to.

Appologies for rant. The past few posters make me so sad and angry and sad. Alba, MeatnTatty, Mrs. G, I really do hope those sods pull thier fingers out. Don't they realise how hard it is? You all have my very very best and lots of un-mn hugs.

AlbaDeTamble · 25/02/2010 11:45

Oh no, meatntattypie I really feel bad for you, mine was only first mc, I'm just scared because of my age.

But I have already discovered that the only way to get anywhere is to push for it. Wish I could help you, but that's all I really know.

meatntattypie · 25/02/2010 11:40

It IS shite, utter utter shite.
Im 40 this year, had my 5th Mc in Decemaber just gone.

had bloods sent, all normal.

Been for appointments with gynae consultant.....never seen him yet.
sent to another hospital completely for one appointment...by accident.

No one is interested.
No one wants to help
No one has the ability it seems to help me.
There is no explanation for my mcs.

AlbaDeTamble · 25/02/2010 11:36

thanks meatntattypie... not just me then [big sigh of relief at not going mad emoticon]

sorry you're going through it too though, it's pants isn't it

AlbaDeTamble · 25/02/2010 11:34

Thursday list:
Moofold ttc#2 UCL~33 cycle1 CD37
northlondonchoclover TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD30
Liahgen66 TTC#6 UCL26 cycle 1 (post mc) CD28
icedlemonmuffin TTC#2 UCL24-32 cycle10 CD26
RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 14 CD24
yogamat TTC#2 UCL? cycle WTF CD24
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL27 cycle 3 CD23
sunburntats TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD22
Tetleytea TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 3 CD22
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 25-28 cycle 11 CD21
Albadetamble TTC#2 UCL25 cycle WTF CD21
LittleMiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD20
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 3 CD19
NoShouting TTC#5 UCL? cycle 1 CD18
Curlylox TTC #3 UCL 28 cycle WTF CD18
Goodluckbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD16
Zayja TTC#1 UCL24-26 cycle 11 CD16
Slimyak TTC #2 UCL 26 cycle 2 CD15
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 9 CD13
Gi1da TTC #1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD 13
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 7 CD12
Allthe8s TTC#3 UCL28 cycle1 CD12
SarahMumtoAlex TTC#2 UCL28 Cycle 6 CD10
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle1 CD8
clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 1 CD7
sakura TTC#1 UCL28 cycle1 CD7
LucyT66 TTC 1 UCL 33-34 cycle 3 CD4
Underneaththestream TTC#1 UCL ? cycle 1 CD4
Unbuffy TTC#2 UCL? cycle 1 CD3

PENDING STATS
westyorkshiregirl TTC#? UCL? cycle? CD?
Polyanna TTC#6 UCL27 WTF CD?
Malteser1981 TTC#? UCL28 cycle WTF CD?
slimyak TTC#2 UCL? cycle? CD?
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle WTF
shinysideup TTC#2 UCL 25 cycle WTF
hippychick TTC #3 UCL? cycle WTF
lauraloo09 TTC#2 UCL? cycle WTF
CCBloom TTC#1 UCL? cycle WTF
Mummy369
meatntattypie
GinaFB

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
Jollster BFP 10th January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
Cheepz BFP 16th February 2010

AlbaDeTamble · 25/02/2010 11:30

and I just read up through posts and realised I'm probably just being hugely selfish - I'm not really doing so badly, at least they're following up for me.

MrsG, so sorry you're still waiting and good luck this afternoon. Going back into hospital for scans is so sad, I hope MrG's going with you for support and you find sympathetic staff, and answers.

I've at least been chuckling at tightywhities, eastenders Duffs and disorganised men (I'm sure my DH never checks the date on his passport either)...

Feeling bizarrely better for my rant - sorry - feeling a bit stupid for getting so upset too. Back to work now. Onwards and upwards.

meatntattypie · 25/02/2010 11:26

Ahh Alba, are you me??
Im going through EXACTLY the same thing

Dont know your history but you strike so many similar chords with me.
What has happened to bring you to this situation?

AlbaDeTamble · 25/02/2010 11:22

I managed to convince the gynaecologist on Monday evening that at 41, I didn't want to wait at least another 2 x 6 months per conception/miscarriage to be finally allowed further investigations, so he agreed and ticked a bunch of boxes on a blood tests form, then said it would cost a small fortune privately so best take it to my GP. He also said he'd be happy to prescribe progesterone next time around if I wanted it - doesn't think it will necessarily help but there's no harm either (apparently v common in the US, but not here is that because it doesn't work, or because it costs??). I've been nervously waiting till appt this morning and the GP has indeed agreed to get the bloods done, but he said antiphospholipid might get bounced back by the lab so that one may need to be private (also said he has a patient currently pregnant and doing well on treatment for the condition - I wonder if she, like me, had to battle her way through medical bureaucracy to actually find out?). I then got to reception to be told earliest possible phlebotomist appointment not till next Friday (exactly a month on from my ERPC so seeing the date didn't help) -- at which point I lost it. I'd just been told it will take at least 2 weeks to get results back and I have to wait over a week to get the appointment too, and if it gets bounced and I have to go privately instead I guess we're looking at least 6 weeks, maybe more. I burst into tears and she just didn't seem to care. Maybe it doesn't matter that much, but it matters hugely to me.
Also told me it would take two days to get back to me with urine sample test result (checking if post-op infection gone) so after the weekend wtf is that about? Last time I saw nurse at work she checked there and then, took 2 seconds.
My faith in the NHS is rapidly running out. They couldn't help me when miscarrying (advised to go to A&E if losing a lot of blood, that's all, at 11 wks pg) -- and I had to have scan and ERPC privately.

Came home crying my eyes out. I really want to make sure I can do this right next time, I really want there to be a next time.

Actually, I just want my baby back

slimyak · 25/02/2010 11:17

OK, I have very limited it skills, or maybe it's a confidence thing. I'm presuming the up-dated list is just a cut and paste job with stats added, so here goes.

Underneaththestream TTC#1 UCL ? cycle WTF CD41
Moofold ttc#2 UCL~33 cycle1 CD35
northlondonchoclover TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD28
Liahgen66 TTC#6 UCL26 cycle 1 (post mc) CD26
icedlemonmuffin TTC#2 UCL24-32 cycle10 CD24
RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 14 CD22
yogamat TTC#2 UCL? cycle WTF CD22
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL27 cycle 3 CD21
sunburntats TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD20
Tetleytea TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 3 CD20
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 25-28 cycle 11 CD19
Albadetamble TTC#2 UCL25 cycle WTF CD19
LittleMiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD18
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 3 CD17
NoShouting TTC#5 UCL? cycle 1 CD16
Curlylox TTC #3 UCL 28 cycle WTF CD16
Slimyak TTC #2 UCL 26 cycle 2 CD15
Goodluckbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD14
Zayja TTC#1 UCL24-26 cycle 11 CD14
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 9 CD11
Gi1da TTC #1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD 11
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 7 CD10
Allthe8s TTC#2 UCL28 cycle1 CD10
SarahMumtoAlex TTC#2 UCL28 Cycle 6 CD8
clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 1 CD5
LucyT66 TTC 1 UCL 33-34 cycle 3 CD2
Unbuffy TTC#2 UCL? cycle 1 CD1

PENDING STATS
westyorkshiregirl TTC#? UCL? cycle? CD?
dirtgirl TTC#? UCL? cycle? CD?
Polyanna TTC#6 UCL27 WTF CD?
Malteser1981 TTC#? UCL28 cycle WTF CD?
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle WTF
shinysideup TTC#2 UCL 25 cycle WTF
hippychick TTC #3 UCL? cycle WTF
lauraloo09 TTC#2 UCL? cycle WTF

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
Jollster BFP 10th January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
Cheepz BFP 16th February 2010

I don't get to post very often, but I lurk every now and again. So I'm in on the side lines and still offering my hand to hold and squeezing when necessary sounds a bit odd?

You know what, I'm pleased the Graduates list it looking good

Oh shit, was I supposed to add on days for CD? If I've confused things please ignore me

hippychick66 · 25/02/2010 10:21

g1lda Try not to panic - I'd love to be 38 . You're just a spring chick .

hippychick66 · 25/02/2010 10:19

mrsgazibo I completely understand your need not to google the whole molar thing. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. Really hope all goes ok for you at your appointment today.

I've made the huge mistake of looking up the chances of MC at my age and am now well and truelly .

Maybe i should just make the most of what I have and stop reaching for the stars?????. We just all wanted one more little one in our house.

This morning I was listening to Michael Buble singing - just haven't met you yet. I always liked that song (really showing my age now)

Anyway, i'd always thought it was just about a man/woman relationship but if you apply the words to a baby that you want to have, it becomes very poignant and makes you sob as you're driving home from school (very dangerous!)

I really hope there are little ones out there for all of us that we just haven't met yet.

Gi1da · 25/02/2010 10:04

PS sorry for v brief post, am not yet a master of hiding the MN screen at work!

MrsGazebo · 25/02/2010 10:03

Mornin' all.
I am so so sorry I've not posted and acknowledged all your kind words over the last week.
I've been feeling very low and have tried to keep away from the net incase curiosity got the better of me and I started fully researching Molar pregnancy.

Lovely new thread!
Hope it brings loads of luck for you all

Bigmuther Oh honey I'm am so sorry.
When you're ready this is a great place to be for support and hand holding.

GinaFB you are clearly very strong.
I hope you too can find support here when you get back from your break.

Welcome Sankura and Meatandtattypie

Hippy that is so sad your DS had to hear that, kids can be so direct and cruel sometimes.

Not much as changed with me... still no AF.
Day 50 now I think.
No point speculating until my scan and bloods this afternoon.
Just wait I suppose.

Gi1da · 25/02/2010 09:56

Morning Hippy. I had a good old sob last night when I was looking to see what charities covered mc. Found one that had a bloody great chart of research showing your chances of mc increasing as you age (don't go and look at it!). I'm 38, and according to that we're screwed! Although quite good news if you are 12. WFT! I'm sure its fine though, my nan had my mum at 44. Just really shocked at a "compassionate" charity chucking stats like that in your face. Tommy's I am not your friend.

hippychick66 · 24/02/2010 23:59

Pleased when we told them about us having a baby and then sad when we told them we'd lost it - not sure that was very clear! Argghh Hippy stop typing and go to bed!

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