To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

Dont ask me, C, Im the obstacle queen!

I wonder if the people who occasionally read this thread (we know they are out there, we have met a few, ) just sometimes yell at the screen 'OH FOR GOODNESS SAKE JUST DO IT"????

Just out of interest, do you feel like you are leaning more towards a decision, more than when we started chatting last August? Im not sure I am, if Im honest. Sigh.

ps I think the 'New Mum Gems' thread has made me come over all green! Well, green-ish anyway!

It has indeed been crazy. I filled up when Gordon resigned and then did his leaving speech. You'd have to be pretty hard hearted not to, I think! I didn't think he was Prime Minister material myself, regardless of his politics I felt he didn't have the presence or charisma. However, this does not mean I am pleased about 'just call me Dave'...

YTD I was wilting at that time so am very impressed with your staying awake abilities!

LST I have been Googling 'IVF and cramping' on the sly at work, and it appears to be neither a sign of good or bad. It could be either (thank goodness) so lets hope it's the good news! I suspect we're all going to be on the edge of our seats the day you can take a test to find out for sure - I'll certainly be mentally holding your hand when the time comes. Yikes!

HP SP we can all now sit about nodding and saying 'everything happens for a reason' and us all being bossy can be the reason for you fully (lets gloss over 'Pill-Gate) and coming off the pill. It all sounds very weird, although admittedly this won't neccessarily be the view of someone who knows about these things. I know I'd be crushed if I couldn't have them, and it's not even as if I know I do want them either. Like you say, it would be nice for it to be your decision rather than your bodies.

As it is looking likely that we won't be able to take the time off and do the house in Hebden up as soon as we move, which is what we did hope, I am now wondering afresh when or if to have a baby. DH now seems keen, and I suspect this may pass over to me (at the moment it still seems very pie in the sky due to still being in this house and not moved yet etc etc) when things are more settled but the house needs LOADS of work and would we be able to do it and babies? I am 36 in September too which makes me feel as if sooner is better to get cracking in case it takes a long time, but it's going to take a while to do the house and it really needs doing - as you can see from the pics (it's more so in real life.)

YTD how's your DIYing coming along? And have you felt able to get stuck in too? Am wondering if I'd feel like shit for months and be incapable, leaving my very capable but incredibly slow DH to do it instead.

Or am I just coming up with yet more obstacles...?!

Evening All,

What a crazy few days in the world of politics - Ive been gripped. Loved last nights dash to the Queen and the Britishness of it all.

Hope you aren't suffering too badly from the cramps today, LST, and that you are working on your pre-sleeping relaxation technique. Also, yeahhhh, the street name...

I cant believe you were up at 23.25, YTD, has the tiredness eased these days or was it a matchsticks-propping-the-eyelids-open night?

My doctors appointment is in 10 days. I dont know what to make of it all really. I havent had the mystery pain since Ive been taking the NSAIDs, well, a grade 3 last time, but no worse. Its the underlying cause of it that worries me. But the bleeding also isnt good. Ive stopped now, so once again it started two days after the end of my period, then lasted three days. It seems to stop before ovulation though. Anyway, I guess I will see what she says but I was going to try to push for some tests. I know you can do Day 3 and Day 21 blood tests for LH/FSH and progesterone, and then there is the scanning to see if there is anything else in there. Apart from that, I will have to be guided by her.

I have to say, I'm so glad that you all yelled at encouraged me to come off the pill, as if there is something not quite right I would still have no clue. Like you say, if I decide not to have children, I'd like it to be my decision, not my bodies, if you see what I mean.

Anyway, hope you are all having a good evening - Im planning my work for tomorrow as Im suddenly worried about how much work I have to get through in the next few months.

LST I am hoping like mad the cramping is a goos sign, I really am! I won't say more than that (for now) as, really, nobody knows and we can speculate forever.

I have just been watching a documentary on Pablo Escobar and am now well overdue for my bed.

So, I'll no doubt be back tomorrow!

Night!

ps the bit about the gnat and feather made me chuckle!

Wow, loads to catch up on!

LST how was it? Hope your eggs are still cooking away nicely too.

Confused Felt really angry for you when I read the post about your estate agents. Grr! When we were selling our old house DH actually had to march in their once, caught the estate agent with his feet up on his desk (like who bloody does that in a office that's literally on the street?) and said that we were effed off with being effed around.

SeaGreen how are you doing? Love all your posts with home decor.

We are also going to be doing the bathroom up soon, DH and his dad are going to do it (I just thank my stars we have another bathroom next to the bedroom, not sure how long I could do weeing in a bucket but i guess that would give them more incentive. Anyway, I love the idea of a chandelier in the bathroom, how glam! And its not exactly not child friendly is it?! Not like they'll be able to reach it or anything.Went to the Grand designs show at Excel this weekend just gone, it was pretty good. In fact I know that my in-laws picked up the name & details of someone who does that splashback glass - confused were you looking for that? not sure how much it is but the in laws are having it in their kitchen and DH said that this guy's prices didnt seem too bad although I guess that would depend on how much you needed. I can try and get the details if you fancy?

Right, im off to bed. I have been chasing around what I thought what some kind of gnat and turned out to be a feather. Clearly its time to go...zzz

Hi folks,

I did mean cramping - sadly not necessarily a good sign re. burrowing (!) as they (cramps) are probably the most common side effect of the progesterone treatment I'm on - but not a bad sign at this stage (particularly without accompanying AF!). Just bloody inconvenient when I'm trying so hard to think, remember and sleep! I also look ridiculous walking hobbling down the street wincing every time I hit a raised paving stone (TMI, possibly?!).

Anyway, enough of that. Exam was ok - not great, and I'm a bit of a perfectionist with these things so have spent most of the day kicking myself for missing out this and that - but frankly the fact I wrote stuff down for two hours at all is a minor miracle at the moment so should be pleased, or at least relieved. I'm sure it was MN vibes keeping me going.

God the estate agents sound horrendous, confused. Give 'em hell. Sounds like you've got a good plan on that front, anyway! But how annoying.

OK, off to bed super-early but thanks for the good wishes (and concern) xx

Oooh, maybe she does mean her eggs are burrowing (how weird does that sound?!) instead?

LST please enlighten us!

Yes, the agents are twunts (a MN word I've picked up!) and I shall let them know what I think. I have already had to breathe down their necks to rewrite the details as the first version was shite. For example 'the hall floors consist of two rooms leading off' for example, which doesn't make much sense, and 'tastefully furnished bathroom' which tells buyers nothing and, a cracker this one, 'the back garden is accessed from the house' - as opposed to where? Next door? An underground tunnel?

And they are not getting much better.

I would say we'd just move to somewhere else but we really need to move asap and they do have the most 'sold' signs around. But, as they will get about £2500 for selling our house they can STOP TELLING LIES AND EFFING WORK FOR IT.

Anyone got any Rescue Remedy?

Oh yes, and if we lower the price a bit we may not be able to do the new place up (or a lot of the new place) and then move it. Instead, we'll have to move in first and wait a bit. Not the end of the world and, while the new house is very worn and dated it's not inhabitable but it's a bit of a shame as I was hoping to do LOADS before we moved in proper. C'est la vie!

Back later this evening,

i thought it was cramping like eggs burrowing, as HO SP said..
confused thought you might like fimo heaven here!

I read it as 'cramping' as in womb-stuff, and I hoped that meant the chucky eggs may be burrowing down, but maybe she meant cramming, like you say!

That estate agents sounds like a NIGHTMARE and Im very on your behalf. Go and shout at them, loudly.

SeaGreen - are you referring to her 'cramping' that LST mentioned? I first read that with worry and then re-read it and think she meant 'cramming' for her exam(s) instead.

Least I hope so...

LST - hope all well?

Quick elicit work rant post.

We have a second viewing tonight at 6.15 and two more viewings lined up for Friday. A lot of the people who have seen it say that the garden is too small, especially those who have kids. I am inclined to agree. I am also starting to think it has been deliberately overvalued... possibly to make it seem more appealing to sell the house through them. We cocked up by now having several agents round although, in fairness, they're all as bad as each other - the one's we bought this house from were horredous and we just wanted to get it sold. Ocean have the most boards up in our area with sold signs on, so we went with them.

We had a look at the list the agent first gave us with houses sold in the area. It has the house, the date it went on and the date it was sold and the price is was on for but not the price it went for. On closer inspection, these two pages (yes, TWO PAGES) of houses are the same three or maybe four houses, just listed differently. Sometimes the pic has been reversed, sometimes it has the date it went on the market but no end time for it being on the market and it is deliberately misleading.

I am going to go on Friday and ask to speak to the manager. Then I am going to hand him this list and get HIM to explain to ME why I am cross. Then I shall say that we are not paying them commission for them to bull sh*t us. I shall also state that I do not expect to have to go through everything with a fine tooth comb to make sure they are not conning us or skirting round the facts.

I also think we are going to drop the price, possibly to about £265,00 - but! I will discuss this with Ocean first and make sure we get the REAL prices of what has sold for what. And if this means them telling me one thing so I make them go on-line and PROVE IT while I am sat there, then so be it.

They act like kids, they will be treated like kids.

Grrr.....

haha

I had such a crazy dream last night - I dreamt that I was hunting for a stick to pee on, and my sister and I were trying loads of different garages to buy one (!). When I finally found a stick I trusted, I peed on it and it was positive, but to interpret the data I had to insert it into a very scientific looking stick-reader!

I think Im spending too much time on MN......

re bathroom- i liked this one
a desk nook idea here and what a lovely colour too! chandelier makeover here

confused - super stylish? not at all. hard to be too stylish with a big dog (would rather go for cosy style than high style any day). but it's a home-y place.

GOOD LUCK LST!!!
fingers crossed for you.

GOOD LUKC, LST!!

I'm here! Mumsnet before all... Thank you v. much for the lukc, confused! Feeling pretty ropey this morning after another bad night of cramping so not hugely optimistic, but I think I must have done enough work not to fail, unless I have a complete meltdown.

Right, better get in the car. Aargh.

Not sure you'd be able to get it in a double though!

Shit, I think I'm going to be too late but hopefully she'll havce a check in the morning.

So, GOOD LUKC TOMORROW LST! Hope it goes really well and you sail through!

it's very silly but this or red and white pinstripes would be my favorite bed linen of all time!!

That's just what she says, but I am not too keen. The one here is super grotty and busy though which obviously doesn't help.

Can I ask, is your house / flat very stylish?!