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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 16/02/2010 10:56

Ok fellow ditherers, as we have filled up one thread (and still not made too many firm decisions) here's another one for us to continue to procrastinate and worry on.

Here's to more monitoring of relative green and redness, mutual support and occassional chivving, discussion of everything baby or not baby related, and perhaps even our first BFP...?

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 04/03/2010 16:32

HP you might be interested to learn that once you are pregnant, a whole new range of graphs become available to you.

I have been charting via Fertility Friend and once I recorded my positive test results, you get access to a whole new site called pregnancy tracker, where you can record daily symptoms (not taking my temperature any more though)and store scan pictures, weights, sizes etc.

I've moved up to a whole new level of charting!

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HoneyPetal · 04/03/2010 16:06

Oh for fecks sake, talk about timing (and, poor girl)..... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/923526-confused-about-positive-result

HoneyPetal · 04/03/2010 15:46

I just really, really love the idea of making a graph out of my body .

Im not thinking too much about if these are my final moments on the pill, as I'm still mortified after PillGate. Lets just say this, I feel quite positive about coming off it at the minute and I am interested to see what happens when my lovely artificial hormones are gone (but then, it isn't D-Day yet!).

Oooo, Confused, surely with the current greenness you could place yourself higher than 390th?? If there is a 'sods law' list, I'm totally third, as I will get knocked up by accident the first month we use condoms.

I dont need to imagine what pregnancy is like, my boobs are getting bigger by the month, along with my gut tummy. For shame, HoneyPetal.

confuseddoiordonti · 04/03/2010 15:44

Yikes - some friends of mine (he was DH's best man) are in the hospital right now having their baby! It has been over 24 hours already (not sure if it's an induction or not but her due date was last Weds) and, according to the text conversation, it looks like it's going to be long haul.

Am both excited and glad it's not me!

confuseddoiordonti · 04/03/2010 14:58

HP!
Does this mean this will be your last pilled up month (so to speak) then...? I would have thought that getting to the temperature stage speaks volumes!

Okay - now we're getting green (and YTD your bit about two lines on a stick did make me laugh, and not just because it's true!) here are The Predictions:

  1. YTD - done!
  2. LST
  3. ??
  4. ??
  5. ??
390th. Confused.

Please feel free to fill in the gaps!

Just looked in mirror as bought some new trousers and now feel that a pregnancy is the last thing my expanding waistline needs! Or maybe it's a good thing as you can let it all hang out and not care...?!

HoneyPetal · 04/03/2010 14:43

I just purchased a basal body temp thermometer! Just had to tell someone, really....

SeaGreen · 04/03/2010 12:36

OMFG!!! YTD- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

popped onto the thread before i rush off (got to catch yet another flight today, and no, nothing very exotic- certainly not boston!)
WOWOWOW!!
good stuff!!

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 03/03/2010 23:33

Greenness all round I see? I've been using reasoned argument, eloquence, cajolary and plain harranging for months and all it takes is a couple of lines on a stick and suddenly the threads gone green!!

HP I too am surprised by how quickly I seem to have got really tired. Although I was pretty knackered last week as well, I just put it down to the fact that I was having such a busy week - lots of travelling and long days.

I think I might be noticing stuff more now that I know I'm pregnant. And worrying more. I've had pokey cramps for about a week. Pre-test it was an interesting sign of possible pregnancy, now I think it could be the bean inplanting in the wrong place/ falling off / developing in the wrong way. I think the anxiety kicks in with the hormones!

lizardqueenie welcome back. Sorry to hear you've been in a grim place recently. I'll post more tomorrow, but now really have to go to sleep.

Night night. xx

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lizardqueenie · 03/03/2010 22:10

YTD! I just read back through the posts! Congratulations! fab fabby news. take very good care of you xx

lizardqueenie · 03/03/2010 22:03

HP YTD and everyone else that welcomed me so warmly last time I am back to lurk!

sorry i haven't posted for ages- boy have things changed and sadly not for the better! at the moment i am signed off work with stress after slowly slowly going down a big hill of what the Dr calls depression and finally ending up in a real unhappy place. Baby talk has been put on hold altogether whilst I try to figure out what the heck I am going to do.

Won't go into the the details but hit a low which made me question whether there was any point continuing anything anymore and yes that was all due to work.

Am being told off for overthinking things (I know I am in good company for that here) and in figuring out what I want to do with my life/ change jobs etc. I should go with the flow apparently!

Anyway thought I would pop my nose in and say hello, I hope you are all well and will try to follow the thread a bit more closely.

x

HoneyPetal · 03/03/2010 22:01

True, true.

I think that's what I meant by vague green. If I let my mind drift and wander into babies I just feel warm in the ovary region and quietly happy. If I focus on it for even a second I start worrying and doubting.

I knew one of us would eventually get a BFP, but I'm still surprised that it has actually happened!

confuseddoiordonti · 03/03/2010 21:52

Lets not go mad, HP SP - one step at a time an' all!

I think its a culmination of everything - and, weird as this may sound, YTD's BFP seems to have had an effect too. If I think about it too much, which I am now, I can come up with more reasons not to go for it than to go for it but if I don't ponder over the little details I am most certainly green.

HoneyPetal · 03/03/2010 21:46

Good grief!!!

Is it a green that needs action?

confuseddoiordonti · 03/03/2010 21:38

Quite. And, as you say, their loss.

And yes, I appear to be green. Green, green GREEN.

Say it loud and say it proud!

HoneyPetal · 03/03/2010 21:34

It is hard when you find out that one or both of your parents is an arse who you are better off without! Bugger them, it's their loss.

Did you say.....green????

confuseddoiordonti · 03/03/2010 21:16

Ah, okay. I think I know where your coming from. I don't really have any bond as such with my dad's mother although I did with my dad until he turned out to be, or I found out he was, a tosser. His mother has always been a very negative and rude woman in a way that's hard to describe. I didn't meet either of them until I was 14 (my dad) and 16 (his parents) so don't the history I have with my 'proper' grandparents (my mum's mum and dad who I love to death.) When people tut and say things like 'families' I don't think of them as I think your family are the people you grew up with not the one's you may be related to. Hope that makes sense!

I blame YTD too for my greeness! Shit, did I just admit something, a colour in fact...? By jove, I think I did!

HoneyPetal · 03/03/2010 21:04

Well, she hasn't subjected us to financial strife! I don't have any dealings with her, haven't done for over five years. Sometimes people bring so much negativity with them that it is harder to have them in your life than not, I think. But I manage fine without her. I miss the idea of her, rather than the horrible truth of her.

Once again I will watch OBEM without DH. Although he would appreciate Joy!

Am quite green, in a vague way. I blame YTD!

confuseddoiordonti · 03/03/2010 20:50

Oooh, as you brought it up yourself I really want to ask why she's quite so evil (you have mentioned it before, when you said her behaviour went south of the acceptable'.) Surely she's not on a par with my dad?!

Yes, Joy is hilarous by the way. I think she gets some getting used to at first and then she's just funny.

HoneyPetal · 03/03/2010 20:32

Bonfire night would be such a cool birthday!

Sore boobs and tiredness already? I had no idea it all kicked in so soon, who would have thought a ball of cells could cause so much trouble already!

I bet even non-ditherers get a leetle bit freaked when they see the BFP. It's b-i-g stuff. And exciting. I'm hugely excited for you! This is what all the thinking was about, and the colour analysing. Good to hear you are still supergreen though. Even after OBEM. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing Joy have the baby, she is utterly hilarious, especially the bit when 9.2 months pregnant, being induced and walking around a maternity unit, she declares 'Maybe this is a bad idea, maybe I'm not sure'. I'm claiming her as a fellow ditherer. Awesome.

I wouldn't tell my mam. She is evil incarnate. I would tell my sister though.

confuseddoiordonti · 03/03/2010 17:20

I doubt I'd be doing much either! So, I take it you actually feel different now then? Would you have suspected if you felt like this even if it was too early to test? What weird things is your body doing? Am most intriguied!

I doubt I'd be able to not say anything to my mum either. It's too big a thing to keep from someone like your mum, I think. While I'd ideally like to wait a bit I'm not sure if I could manage it - especially if, like you, I was tired etc.

What's going to happen at the first appt on April 1st (of all days!)? I presume that's too soon for the scan? Or will they do one then and then another at 12 weeks...? I only know for sure what they do with diabetics (scan almost immediately, then scan every month till the last trimester and then scan every two weeks - might as well move into the bloody scanning suite if the time comes!)

I can't imagine having boobs that hurt when you touch them either - euw! Bravissimo here you come! Hot Milk are lovely too (not that I retain this information of course... )

Your DH sounds like my DH in his approach to DIY. It's amazing how you can get used to a room that badly needs doing too, isn't it? The things that are horribly obvious at first seem to almost fade into the background when you've got used to them. Sounds like you're going to be close to useless for the next few months too (they are the hardest usually in terms of tiredness aren't they?) so he better rope in some mates!

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 03/03/2010 16:28

Afternoon ladies,

I'm following up yesterday's massively unproductive day by working from home today and being even more unproductive! Fortunately I have no pressing deadlines this week, so can get away with it a bit. I will have to pull my socks up next week though.

Obviously it is very difficult for me to think about anything other than pregnancy at the moment. I still can't believe its actually happened. I popped out to Boots at lunchtime today and bought a ClearBlue digital test. POAS and got the message "Pregnant 2-3 weeks". I have now done 4 tests, of varying cost and accuracy - they all tell me I am pregnant.

I have also changed my initial appointment with the midwife. Af yesterday's appointment with the GPs (at which the doctor was disappointingly unexcited by our news) he referred me to the midwife and said I'd need an appointment for a few weeks hence. The receptionist (who seemed much more impressed with our news and said congratulations as soon as I handed her the referal form) said she thought it needed to be at 8 - 10 weeks and made me an appointment for 22nd April. Today i started worrying that that would be too late. I am 4+4 currently, and if I stick with the appointment I'd been given, I'd be 11+5. Given that you are supposed to go between 8 and 10 weeks, I was bit concerned that that is quite late for a first appointment. So I fretted for a bit and then checked the guidance on NHS Choices, and then rang the surgery. The lovely receptionist agreed that it was too late and rebooked the appointment for April 1st.

Apart from increased levels of anxiety, the main symptoms of pregnancy appear to be just overwhelming tiredness and increibly sore boobs. In answer to your earlier question, Confused they are heavy and very tender and hurt when touched. They are also bigger. I might need a trip to Bravissimo soon. I'm a bit concerned by how tired I feel. I'm ok in the mornings, but by about 3.00pm I am ready to go to bed. I may have to start doing and earlier start and finish at work in order to accomodate this.

As regards the DIY, DH is is very capable, albeit a bit of a perfectionist, and can do everything that needs doing, but does it very slowly. We now have an immoveable deadline and i am perpetually exhausted. DH really is going to have to start taking some initiative (rather than waiting for me to issue instructions and then nag continually for about a year until the job is done!). And I think we will have to rope in some external help.

I think I will have to renegotiate with my DH about when we can tell people. He wants us to wait until after the scan, I really don't think I can leave it that long. It is very very early yet, so I am going to try and pretend nothing happened for a couple of weeks (ha! as if, I can think of nothing else!) Once we get to 6 weeks, I think I will tell my Mum and best mate. I will try and keep it quiet generally until the scan, but I really want to tell my Mum. It's not just the expecting a baby bit that I want to tell her about - my body is suddenly starting to do wierd things - I want to talk to her about it! I am much closer to my Mum than DH is to his parents, so I don't think he really gets why its important to me to share the news. The plan is to compromise and have a couple of weeks where only us (and all my internet chums, of course!) know, and then let my mum and best mate know.

Even that is going to be difficult. My mum is coming over to mine on Friday and I'm sure she'll guess. I think I'll end up telling her anyway. At the end of the day, its my body and if I want to tell my mum about it I jolly well will!!

Sorry this has all been a bit me me me. I'm tired and and a bit emotional. Would it come as a surprise to anyone if I mentioned that I have been wondering today whether this was such a good idea after all?

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LeviStubbsTears · 02/03/2010 23:41

REALLY can't write anything as have to be up at the crack of dawn tomorrow to drive to the Midlands but it's just all too eventful on here!

That includes lows as well as highs though, as HP points out - so so sorry, Suerock. I'm deliberating over my future at the moment, but I know that I'd be gutted if I lost my job (and because of various consequences of taking this year off to do the course, it's not actually too remote a possibility...) - it's so horrible to have choices taken away from you, and things taken out of your hands, even if it works out for the best, or at least in a positive way in the end. I'm sure you have masses of skills, personal resources and will find an alternative (or even an improvement) but I'm really sorry you are forced into it, and it complicates the whole baby thing.

Fantastic about the house, confused!! That is so exciting. And glad you like Hebden - sounds like a fab place to be, and I know I loved it when I visited. Anywhere with that many lesbians has got to have a lot going for it!

So much to ask/ say that I can't even begin, YTD - you may regret offering yourself as a case study! Hope the soreness (and cramps) subside - but (up to a point, at least) at least they are probably reminders so are reassuring? Take it very easy the next few months, whatever needs doing on the house/ at work etc. and enjoy the new experiences - they only ramp up from here!!

(Darn it, missed OBEM again!)

Enjoy the revamp, HP - I had a bit of a clothes-buying spree recently, and most uncharacteristically for me was v. slightly adventurous, and it felt great. That was it for the year, though. Am now going to try Ebay, sounds great, confused - Toast... [sigh]... [looks wistful].

Oh and hello, Amanda. It's not usually this crazy around here!

OK enough - bed!!!!

confuseddoiordonti · 02/03/2010 22:59

Spring revamps are the way forward, just a shame that doesn't include an instant inch loss from around my waist (and everywhere else) too! Ebay is fab for cheap but effective revamps as long as you can tell what will suit you without trying it on. Most of my clothes are from Ebay and are makes like Toast (LOVE Toast) and Jigsaw, which I wouldn't normally be able to afford - not by the drawer full anyway. Also, if you know what glasses shapes suit there are some top deals for glasses here I have used them a few times and have been really pleased.

YTD I guess you are right being cautious at the moment as it is very early days, although it must be very hard trying to think of anything else at the moment! I guess the downsides to tests which tell you very early on if you are pregant are not can be a double edged sword if it all goes tits up - but lets not dwell on that side of things! Can I ask what you mean by 'sore' boobs? (I would never ask someone this in RL!) Dumb sounding question I suppose, but what I mean is do they feel heavy / sensitive / achey or, er, what? I think the poking style cramps are quite common as a few of my friends have said the same thing - maybe it is that bean getting comfortable! Blimey, I still can't quite believe and am all giddy despite not actually even knowing you properly but, conversely, knowing you've been trying for ages

I was blubbing at the end of OBEM when Joy had her baby. She got on my nerves at first but I really liked both of them by the end. She was actually hilarious! When they gave her the baby and she started to cry I was welling up like nobody's business - and then DH came in and started talking about bloody toilets (he's working out bathroom suites) ] Have come to the conclusion that OBEM is best viewed alone (in the absence of any female friends that is.)

Yup, HP, it's the house by the river. I shall be sending her a mask and snorkel for her birthday We have worked out our budget and can do the bulk of the work - ie the bathroom and kitchen almost immediately but may need to take one month instead of two months off to get cracking if we have to pay the full asking price. Obviously we don't want to, but if we have to then we will - seeing the other houses made us realise how nice this one can actually be.

YTD - a Project Manager role, as suggested by HP SP sounds like the perfect plan! Do you know what you need to do, or is it a case of planning it and then doing it all? My DH is thankfully very good at DIY although the down side is, as you may have already gathered, he does tend to take forever as he is very much a perfectionist but can do lots of unneccessary work as a result (like when he wanted to replace that broken tile UNDER THE BATH before we had the house valued - thank god I managed to talk him out of that one!)

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 02/03/2010 22:24

I think the bits of OMEM you focus on gives an accurate indication of where you are the baby spectrum. In the greenest of green corners over here, I managed to gloss over the painful bits (although had to look away at the epidural - urgh!) and just get all blubbery and emotional when teh babies appear. I'm hoping that's what will happen when I get there...

HP am liking the sound of your plan for a spring revamp. Money spent on stopping yourself feel crap is always a wise investment. The lack of communication from the hospital is sort of a good thing - a slow response should indicate that this is a being treated as a routine investigation, rather than anything more threatening. Difficult to pretend its not happening, but I don't think there's a better approach at the moment.

I am going to try and ignore the fact that I've got a BFP until the appointment with the midwife. It's so early yet, and the risks are still so high, that I think I'd best just try not to think about it too much. It's not like I feel pregnant, it just feels like PMT. I am mildly concerned by the poking cramps I'm getting at the moment. I hope its just the bean making itself comfortable and nothing suspicious.

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HoneyPetal · 02/03/2010 22:00

What a day of highs and lows - Suerock, I'm so sorry about the job, that's a crappy thing to happen. I hope they are going to support you finding another position, is there a plan in place? You poor thing, how rubbish. On top of all the thinking about babies and whatnot, it can all seem a bit much. I hope you can sleep on it tonight and then see what happens in the coming weeks.

And movement on the house/big move front as well, Confused! How exciting! Fingers crossed you get the place and can swing into action with DIY and setting yourselves up in a new town. Did you go for the one next to the river in the end? Poor DHs mam will be beside herself.

Oh YTD, I'm still so pleased for you. I guess it hasn't even begun to sink in yet. Yes, tell us all about the BFP moment. You must have so many plans, especially with the house to work on. May I advise that you have a Project Manager role, and DH does all the graft! Enjoy OBEM.

Right, who's next?

Not much going on with me. No letter from the hospital yet, I've kind of put it out of my mind as there is bugger all I can do until I see the consultant, if indeed they decide to do anything. In the meantime I'm having a spring revamp as I feel like crap - new haircut, new glasses and some new clothes. Saving for the house for so long means I honestly look like a scruffbag. My life may be at a standstill for now, but at least I'll look presentable!!