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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 16/02/2010 10:56

Ok fellow ditherers, as we have filled up one thread (and still not made too many firm decisions) here's another one for us to continue to procrastinate and worry on.

Here's to more monitoring of relative green and redness, mutual support and occassional chivving, discussion of everything baby or not baby related, and perhaps even our first BFP...?

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 06/03/2010 20:43

Oh My Goodness! Congratulations Lizard! Loved hearing your finding out story. This is probably one of few occasions where someone actually go their monies worth out of 30p for a pee at the station charge!

You are right, now is not the time to be jettisoning your unsatifying civil service job. My job does not thrill me much, but I figure my work-life balance and priorities there to are going to change fairly dramatically soon!

A lot of women actually lose weight in the first trimester (mainly due to pukeing, which is a bit of a downer). Whilst I'd steer clear of the shake diet, you don't have to eat for two and should be able to continue aiming to lose weight for the first 3 months or so. Depending on how overweight you are, this could actually be beneficial, as it would lessing the chances to a miscarriage.

Confused sounds like your friend is being shunted out of hospital fairly swiftly. Although, I suspect it will be much nicer to recouperate at home rather than in hospital. I think I might do a bit of shuffling with my dates though, and get my due date knocked back a few days, to mitagate against this type of medical keenness! re the keenness to intervene, you should be able to put your foot down and refuse if you want a virginal birth. Unless you are in a life threatening situation, no medical intervention can take place without your informed consent, so you can tell them to back off if you want.

Its probably too early to think about it, but I am tempted to try for a home birth. We live 3 miles from the hospital, so tranfer to hospital in case of emergancy would be fairly easy, and I think you have a better chance of staying in charge of things if you are at home for longer.

HP hope you have a good night out. Although I don't know how you are going to project not-TTC vibes now you are in possession of a termometer. Humm, I wonder which fly is going to drop next...

Confused how did the viewing go today?

And latest from me - I have now told my Mum and my best friend. My urge to spread the news has now been assuaged. Am now just panicing about all the things that can go wrong! I have also got a carpet fitter coming to measure up next week and an appointment with another (hopefully cheaper) kitchen design company. The project plan is coming together. Hopefully I'll have most to the work scheduled by May at least.

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confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 20:29

So, HP, with this not drinking lark are you up the duff? Thought I'd ask first just in case! Or to jump on the bandwagon.

Had a couple of drinks so s'cuse the typing.

Anyone around?

HoneyPetal · 06/03/2010 17:53

Two BFPs in a week. Not bad for the dithering thread, huh?

I love hearing other peoples stories. The loo in Victoria pregnancy test is a pretty good one!

It's so awful that a bad work situation can have such a dramatic, negative affect. I hope the councelling is helping you to move forward, LQ. I have to confess that I'm still considering seeking some help at this point in my life, as I'm finding it tough to deal with all the decisions I'm faced with. The baby business and a decision to make regards my future career, mainly.

I can't believe they induced your friend at only five days overdue and with no problems, Confused. I thought ten days was more standard. Five days seems like no time at all, and no wonder the baby had to be dragged out. She might have come out all by herself in a couple of days time. Maybe this is an example of too vigorous medical intervention, as you say. But once they get settled you will be going to see another newborn....interesting!!

Hope the viewings went ok, whatever time they turned up!

I'm off out tonight, just pizza round friends. I'm driving, so DH can have a drink. Which will no doubt fuel the rumours that my gut is a pregnancy belly. Sigh.

Speaking of which, I got my thermometer! We had a fun half hour taking our temperatures after which we came to the conclusion that DH is definitely about to ovulate.....

lizardqueenie · 06/03/2010 13:42

confused about your FB post - i know its easy for me to say but you know that you didnt mean it in that way and I am sure that your friends, if they know you, know that too. xx

lizardqueenie · 06/03/2010 13:38

Hello hello

love the dropping like flies analysis and thanks for your congrats!

Won't be leaving - have had a poke around at some of the other forums on MN and I don't think anyone will shoot me for saying that some of them look a little fierce?!

As for how I feel etc the only word is knackered! After I have done this post will be taking myself off for another nap but then I think what else would I be doing on a cold sat afternoon having had to hurtle round the food shops this morning - by myself I might add!

I went to bluewater last night to buy a "everything you need to know now you've got a bun in your oven" book OMFG there are so many. Ranging from the quite medical scary looking ones to one my Mylene Class - who gives a monkeys! Settled on one called What to Expect whilst you are expecting whcih I vaguely remember being mentioned in a Rom Com with Hugh Grant about him unexpectedly becoming a dad - I think I saw it when I was about 14! Looked quite sensible and I felt it somewhat righted the wrongs of my testing in the toilets at Victoria - for which I had to pay 30p for the privilege.

Orginal reasons for dithering were -
I'm overweight: well now I will get fatter, seriously though it is on my mind and I will be asking my Dr on Monday how I can minimise gaining too much and if this is ok.

Money: shall we wait until we have all the debt paid off - now I think well we both work so it will get paid off one day. we're not rich and not poor - we've just beent oo good at spending money in the past.

I hate my job: yep that still stands, I wondered for a while if the reason I felt so upset about work recently was because I must be "all emotional and hormonal" but no, I have a serious concern about work becuase I work hard and feel responsbile for what I do - have never been a person that leaves on a friday and doesnt think about it till Monday. But I would be mad to leave a civil service job now I'm pregnant (still sounds weird) so I will struggle though.

I think that was it. I did have this feeling yesterday that I might be late - hence the test then afterwards everything else kinda slots into place - last weekend I was really ill - like I never knew you could have constipation and diarrhoea in the same day. but then again it could have just been a bug.

Decided not to tell a sole (except the people that I was seeing to do the cambridge diet and a counsellor I have been seeing to deal with all the work stress and of course you guys) until we get the all clear!

confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 10:57

Am killing time until my friend comes over to pick me up at 11.30 - we're going shopping for things for her wedding. I also have to stay out this morning as have someone coming to see the house. As the message kept cutting out on the answermachine I have no idea when they are actually turning up, hence keeping out most of the day. Will be around tonight though if anyone else is...

confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 10:17

Thanks. It was S who put the pics up so would have been S who removed it, if, after all, it was removed. I think it's okay though, I have no clear memory of seeing it up there (ridiculous as I didn't post after a few!) just of writing it. S said himself there is no need for oversensitivity so it ought to be okay. I think I am just oversensitive to it all myself, more so for being too far away to be able to pop over and also after the pic's business (out of the 69 people or couples who, enthusiastically, said they'd send one, only 14 of them actually did, which is pretty pathetic really.) I'll give S a call later today anyway as not spoken to him for a bit and the last I heard he was starting to feel nauseus (sp?) which is pretty good considering he's been chemo-ing since Jan.

So, back to the matter in hand, the world is going BFP mad! My friend who had the emergency c-sec may be out today too, according to her DH, which seems very soon I have to say. Am interested to hear all about it as it really does sound a bit conveyor belt is - inducing when only 6 days 'over' etc etc.

HoneyPetal · 06/03/2010 09:48

Oh petal, don't worry that you will be here by yourself, I fear Im not going anywhere!

I too was in bed by ten pm as couldn't keep eyes open any more!

If you can't see the photo comment, I would suspect it didn't post properly, unless you witnessed it on there after you pressed go? I think it's very understandable to be paranoid about what you say, but you can't check everything that you say or write for possible hidden meanings or potential misunderstandings. If it would make you feel better, you could ask S about it, to put your mind at rest. As the poster of the photo, does he have the access rights to remove comments? I would imagine that no-one else would. Poor Confused, it's such a tricky situation, try not to beat yourself up about it, you are doing your best and are not a mind-reader.

confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 09:19

Dropping like flies is an excellent comparison! I have a suspicion it will soon just be me and you, or maybe just me

Am up with the lark today as went to bed at 9.30 - yes, very rock and roll - and that was stone cold sover too. I had a mild wobble (this is the thread where we can talk about anything and everything, right?) as I logged back on Facebook and a comment I thought I had left about a group of photo's had gone. It was some that S had put up of a party ten years ago and, as others were saying similar about how young we all look, I added something about how some had worn better than others - meaning myself (skinny! blonde! fresh faced even at 6am after partying for two days!) Anyway, today it had gone. I thought S had deleted it and then thought 'argh' for possibly being so tactless, but now I think I may not have put it up in the first place. I can't remember. I think after the debacle with asking people for pics I am now rather paranoid - not my usual frame of mindI'd like to add. I also feel very removed from everything as I'm not round the corner from everyone like I used to be, far from it in fact and due to move even further.

Right, that's off my chest. Sorry to those who haven't the foggiest what I'm on about - you're not missing much, promise, it's just good sometimes to write things down.

Will have a look on screen shortly and see if HP has had her caffiene fix yet...

HoneyPetal · 06/03/2010 09:04

My goodness, we are dropping like flies. Congrats, LQ, how exciting!

Need food and a coffee before I can be more coherent.

AmandaCooper · 06/03/2010 08:26

Hmm well that is true!

confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 08:14

Better than conceiving in them!

AmandaCooper · 06/03/2010 08:11

Wow that's some news! Lol @ testing in Victoria Station toilets!

confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 08:11

LQ I mean, not LG - LG is my phone. Hmmm....

confuseddoiordonti · 06/03/2010 08:10

LQ that's fabulous news - CONGRATULATIONS! Oh my goodness, everyone's getting little red lines! Christ, it's like it's catching! So, give us the low down? How late were you? How do you feel? Do you feel any different? Would you have guessed if you hadn't already tested?! Tell us all!

By the way, and sorry to ask, but can you tell me your original reasons for dithering? I would scroll back but can't remember if you first posted in the original thread or this one and my laptop takes ages to upload pages sometimes (like today) so don't want to rummage for it.

Looks like LST is going to be number 3 then - talking of which, any developments with the IVF as it's meant to be this month isn't it?

Congrats again LG - don't you and YTD be leaving us, y'hear!

lizardqueenie · 06/03/2010 07:30

confused how is your friend & her little girl now? To me it does seem quite a lot of intervention when it wasn't really needed on the facts you've set out.

I totally agree with your view and have always thought I would like things to probably just take their course rather than having a team of people wadding in. Totally different if there is an emergency but concerned about that with our local hospital - have heard some stories.

YTD you'' have to show me where the pregnancy tracker thing is. I would like one that can track my reduction in shock!

Right must do some shopping- have been on a shake diet the last fortnight so lost a fair bit of weight but shakes wont sustain me now!

lizardqueenie · 06/03/2010 07:21

Sorry in advance as this is a loong quite self indulgent post and hopefully you guys will still have me on here if I dont whitter too much!

I was itching to get on here and chat to someone yesterday afternoon but.....I'm pregnant!

Went into London thought "oh I will just buy a test from boots. I bought a double pack - not expecting it to be positive but having had problems with pt before got to the till and turns out they were on BOGOF! So I left Boots with my 4 tests and was busting for the loo so quickly went down to the toilets in Victoria station. And there they were 2 fat lines! I then laughed at myself for doing a test in such an unglamorous setting - not quite the way I had envisaged finding out I've a small bean.

and then I couldnt really concentrate on what I had gone to London to do - which was a conference to look for another job. So I wandered around the science museum feeling really strange. I took another test whilst I was out and when I got home (got to use them up). Then announced it to DH who was shocked but thrilled as I'd kinda mentioned it to him yesterday wondering what the possibility might be. I really still can't believe it.

So to be sure (I am so so cyncial and thought maybe there is a problem with the PG tests that are on special offer otherwise why would they be on offer) so I bought one of those clearbule digital ones - more for hubby as I thought he'd like the technology and did that just a moment ago and its still positive! Meeep!

confuseddoiordonti · 05/03/2010 18:37

Oh yes, and my friends had a little girl by emergency c-sec at 6pm last night after two days of trying to get labour going properly. Spoke to dad and he is beside himself. I also asked why they induced - she was 5 days over her due date. Turns out there wasn't anything wrong with either the baby or the mum (or the placenta etc) but 'it was just overdue.' Hmmm.... Does this, to you, seem a bit over zealous of the hospital staff? Would it not be better for her to have gone 'overdue' for a bit longer before being pumped with artificial hormones and such like? Maybe then she'd have had the baby naturally? I do think that the whole birthing thing tends to be far too medicalised sometimes. I know lots of women used to die and their babies died and so on and ON before we had all this 'help' but it does strike me as over the top. If there's a problem of course get the baby out asap but if there isn't why bother? Why the rush?
Rather like the diabetic thing - why have a drip in each hand so your less mobile etc when you can do the simpler thing of just having regular little injections or eating or drinking if you need to? Why make it more medical than it needs to be?
Be interested to know your views... Come on Geeks, give me some stats to compare!!

confuseddoiordonti · 05/03/2010 18:30

I am geek free zone I'm afraid, so please don't ask me for any mapping or graphs.

YTD discounting the sore boobs and cramping, you could be diabetic with those symptoms - luckily you're not, eh!

LQ I think it's really better to wait as long as you can before you test, which isn't always possible I know. Different women have different levels of the pregnancy hormone so some may show earlier than others. Leaving it as long as you can will give the most definate result - if you can wait that is! Not sure if I could really. Tests like First Response say they give a result 6 days before your period but (and I can't remember the specifics) it's not a guarantee.

Anyone around this weekend? My DH has taken himself and our DD (dear dog!) on a walking weekend so am home alone and trying not to drink any wine!

lizardqueenie · 05/03/2010 10:21

Hello chickens

YTD i love all your charting and data collection. I worked as an analyst before this poop job and I still get all excited about charting and mapping - where's the emoicon for geek!

Well after months of dithering and trying to make carefully planned decisions I am actually hoping to have C'd this month (last month?). I haven't got in to the counting and measuring just yet so I could be late but with everything that's been happening recently (and with feb being a strange short month) I am not really sure. Its just that its strange, after all the cr*ap that has happened with work rather than wanting everything tied up with a bow I know that I really want a baby. We popped out to see some friends last night _ felt ridiculously sick when I went into M&S to buy some flowers and then it got me thinking? Am I?

confused reading your post above sorry if that makes you slap your forehead! I am sure that I probably am not but there was this one evening....and we had started taking all the vits!

Is it too early to test yet? I need to go up to London today could buy as test on the way...maybe I'll google it.

Happy Friday everyone- hope its sunny where you are! xx

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 04/03/2010 22:22

Confused no tactlessness noticed. Traumatic birth stories don't worry me, its such a long way off, won't happen to me, don't want to think about it "la la la, I'm not listening" .

So HP the thermomenter is on its way eh? There remains the decision you have to make with regard to data collection, i.e. anal or oral (I kid you not!). It may not surprise you that, despite it being considered the less accurate of the two measurements, I chose to take my temperature orally.

Now I am monitoring pregnancy signs. Today I recorded the following symptoms (selected from a controlled vocabulary) in my pregnancy tracker:

Breast Tenderness
Cramping
Fatigue
Frequent Urination
Thirsty

Over time I should be able to observe trends and, should problems arise, this could be a useful diagnostic tool. I am a bit disappointed by the way the data is displayed on the fertility friend pregancy tracker. I might have to request that they develop a .csv output option, so I can download my data and manipulate it in excel.

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confuseddoiordonti · 04/03/2010 18:06
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HoneyPetal · 04/03/2010 17:31

Imagine the pregnancy possibilities....girth of tummy vs boob size (am assuming a positive correlationbased on previous data), number of wees per day, even a bar graph of volume, the ratio of wakeful to sleeping hours....

PS the thermometer has been dispatched!

PPS still not going near my cervix. No way, Jose!

confuseddoiordonti · 04/03/2010 16:39

Shit - YTD! I forgot for a second, sorry if that seemed a little tactless!

Taking feet out of mouth and off to walk my dog, back later on

confuseddoiordonti · 04/03/2010 16:38

I am almost see HP wanting to get pregnant just so she can start charting and temping, especially as, once she had C'd it can go to new levels!

Sorry - was that a bit below the belt?! I, of course, meant it in the nicest possible way!

Turns out my friend started the induction 24 hours ago and it's not working so is now on the strongest one's possible in the hope that does the trick. I suspect, and of course I am an expert, a C-sec may be on the cards... (Hope not though but I think she won't care as long as they get the bugger out!)

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