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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 16/02/2010 10:56

Ok fellow ditherers, as we have filled up one thread (and still not made too many firm decisions) here's another one for us to continue to procrastinate and worry on.

Here's to more monitoring of relative green and redness, mutual support and occassional chivving, discussion of everything baby or not baby related, and perhaps even our first BFP...?

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confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 21:21

She'd be made of stone if she wasn't!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:18

Oh no, will I? I havent watched it for ages, its recorded for an appropriate time. Hopefully YTD isnt crying hormonal tears as well!

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 21:13

Ah, of course!

Am in tears.

You too may be when you watch this week's.

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:09

Taking Charge of Your Fertility - the book I got a while back. Proving to be very useful now!

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 21:06

TCOYF? Might have to Google that too!

Watching OBEM and in tears already and it's only been on 5 mins!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 21:03

For the love of God be careful if you Google 'vagina' and 'juices'!

Lets just say, its a bit easier to judge the type of fluid if you kinda get a bit closer to the action. Imagine the mid-cycle photos of My Beautiful Cervix. But on your fingers.

Seriously, TCOYF. It has all you need to know. And more than you ever wanted to know.

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 20:58

What?!

Guess I'll have to Google it then. Humph. (By the way, My Beautiful Cervix still comes up in my visited sites even though I went onto the site twice - once for me and once showing DH.)

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 20:53

Confused - if only it was just the knickers you check

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 20:51

Yay, a mini-YTD face! How exciting!

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 20:44

O, YTD, your bit about the 'embryo' having a face brought a lump to my throat! Thankfully DH is away this week so I can get watery eyes (after all, OBEM is on shortly) and nobody will know - bring it on!

Yes, they have defrosted towards me. They were fine really, after the initial hiccup. While it may be a tactless thing to say just in case I was TTC I have got the 'I don't want kids' patter down to a fine art so I don't think anyone would really suspect otherwise. I have to say though it sounds bloody grim - sorry YTD and LQ! - all this constant feeding but no sleeping and none of your time being your own. Add to that the long and exhausting birth that you've had no time to recover from - dear me! I've gone rather red again. Funny that! ^

LQ I am in Bristol at the moment and fair enough on the skanty details. I do forget that this is all public and often give far too many obvious details at times. Oh well, I can't change it now.

I would like to end this post by telling you, and possibly countless others, that I have never checked my knickers in my life. In fact, I wouldn't know what I was meant to bbe checking for in comparison to what it might normally be like. I clearly haven't lived!

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 23/03/2010 20:02

Ooh HP EWCM on day 13 and a second temp jump - all clasic signs of a textbook mid cycle ovulation. Encouraging signs that the HP-SP ovavries are performing as they ought.

I noticed an increased desire to leap on my DH at ovulation too. Aren't our bodies clever in the way that everything comes togther (no pun intended) at the ripe time?

One of the facinating things about TTC and now being pregnant, is the way you are no longer n control of your body. You take away the pill and the artifical cycles that ome with it and suddenly are aware of a whole pattern that your body is designed to repeat, all for the purpose of reproducing. And then once one of DH's litle swimmers finally makes it through and we have lift off, there's a really fantastic process starts, all of which I have no control over at all. Occassionally this is terrifying, but tonight I'm not feeling sick, am not too tired and am happy to be in awe of the whole process.

My little bean is 6 weeks old today (fertility friend pregancy site calculates both pregnancy length and age of feotus) and measures between 14 and 20mm. It has a face, arms and lags, a heart and all other major organs now in place. Am feeling quite proud of his progress.

LQ was quite tickled by the snakes in teh car. I've been 5 hpours in the car this afternoon - and the passenger seat was loaded with 'em - been munching on the little blighters all day! Continous eating is a pretty good way of keeping the sickness at bay, although if I continue in this vein, the pregnancy sickness could be replaced by the real thing!!

I think you should maybe try and give yorself a week or so to get back into the swing of things at work before telling them. I am planning to wait until after the 12 week scan before making it official. However, I ended up telling my boss on Friday. But that was partly to explain why I needed to take half a working day to make the four hour journey up to the North West for our thre day training event (I am Travel Lodging for the next 3 days - deep joy!) when all my colleagues were working as normal and travelling up in the evening. I wanted him to know that I was being feeble rather than lazy! But I have a good relationship with my boss and he is a realy nice guy, so I as confident I could tell him and know it would go no further.

Confused glad to hear your friends have defrosted towards you. I don't think new parents are the best subjects for comedy. My friends with the early arrival are looking pretty knackered and their little one does at least sleep quite well between his 3 hourly feeds. It's all pretty overwheleming.

However, as with birth, I am blocking all this out. For now, I'm just going to be excited cos my embryo has a face!!

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HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 19:17

PS. Also, I got my letter through with my appointment to see the dermatologist. Its not until early summer, so a while yet. Hopefully this means the doc wasnt very concerned. Cant believe Im going back next week to ask for something else!

HoneyPetal · 23/03/2010 19:11

Evening All!

Am laughing my head off about snakes in the car! Best typo ever!

I don't think the reply to your text was entirely necessary, Confused. Bit harsh, I mean, a throwaway comment like that could really upset you if you were trying and failing to have a baby. Anyway, sounds like it was sorted out in the end, and hopefully they will get some sleep soon. Everyone says the first 6 weeks are the hardest...

Sooo. Its Day 15. I may have to take some of my thermometer frustration back. Apologies if what follows is way TMI, but this is my first month, I promise I wont mention this again. It seems the first temp leap was a correction of some sort, as I am now 100% sure I ovulated on a more 'normal' Day 13. The reason? Well, a second temp jump but also...CM. Yes, YTD is right, you have to be a knicker checker. And it was frankly very obvious. The much lauded EWCM, in my first month! Im really chuffed actually. Was slightly less chuffed when DH noticed it apres sex. Because there has also been the much discussed increase in sex drive...hurrah! Unfortunately a massive peak in desire coincided with the true day of ovulation. Not great when you are trying not to TTC! Emotionally, Im fine so far, no crazy moods or swings yet.

Im working all night, so will be on the lap top. Feel free to chat and distract me from what I should be doing!

lizardqueenie · 23/03/2010 18:16

Had a bit of a sleep but still feel crap.

Lol Suburbiton!

I live in South East London/ Kent border Sorry to be vague but I've had a bit of a nasty surprise on another thread today where I have offended another member (got in touch with MNHQ about it all & they were v supportive and said it was clear from the thread and replies of others that I didnt mean to offended) but due to that going to be a bit more careful about specific details I post online. Gosh, long explanation, but just to emphasise absolutely nothing to do with anyone on this thread (you're all lovely) and I hope you don't think i am being cagey.

How about you?

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 16:36

So, can it be any snake or a specific breed?

Called my friends and had a nice that - they were far less frosty on the phone and I do think it was due to being tired etc that my silly comment went down badly. I have to say, it's swung me towards red though - baby doesn't sleep but eats and eats all day, falling asleep for 5 min bursts all the time, and the two of them are exhausted. They've barely left the house for two weeks too, or even had showers / proper meals etc. TThe mum (nearly wrote name then, oops!) said she has even more respect for single parents than she had before as she thinks it mmust be close to impossible with only one of you. With two of them they are both still all over the place. Scary.

Can you tell me where you live (roughly?) If you don't want to don't worry. DH used to live in Surbiton (Suburbiton as I called it) and I used to have a similar journey - sometimes taking an hour and sometimes far longer, whereas if I stayed at my house it took 40 mins or less. It is one aspect of living in London I certainly don't miss!

lizardqueenie · 23/03/2010 16:16

Confused - lol a snake! yep getting snakey in the car every morning is THE hardest things about pregnancy! the other hardest thing was going to sainsburys this afternoon. I really feel crap today :-( just unwell, headachy. might go catch some zzz's and see if that helps.

Journey into work is usually 1.5hrs tops thats door to door so not bad at all, but the tube is still yuck! And can I ask for a seat if I need to, despite not obviously being pregnant??hmmm.

About your friend's comment ouch! Maybe as you say she was a bit sensitive due to lack of sleep, and i am sure that she knows your comment was meant in fun (it made me laugh!) but she couldnt take it well because of how she was feeling.

confuseddoiordonti · 23/03/2010 15:50

LQ - "need to take a snake in the car" ??! Now that's one side effect of pregancy that is very new to me!

Not sure what to go for on your work front as it's not a situation I am familiar with. Hopefully some of the others can help instead. How long is your journey into work? The tube first thing is enough to test anyone, never mind combined with an (overcrowded, hot and usually late) train!

YTD - knicker checking, ugh.

I have managed to piss of my friend(s) who had the baby (the one who stopped crying as soon as she was put on her mothers chest that I was telling you all about.) The baby apparently does nothing but eat but barely sleeps. I, admittedly not very helpfully, said that 'if she was a dog I'd suggest she needed worming but as she's a baby instead I had no idea.' This, possibly as they are very over-tired new parents, went down like a turd in a swimming pool. Oh well! I got a terse 'C, it's what babies do although I wouldn't expect you to know that.' Oooh, er! Needless to say, I have held off suggesting they buy her some pigs ears to chew on or perhaps fill a Kong with meat paste...

lizardqueenie · 23/03/2010 10:15

confused have thus far not been so bad that i need to take a snake with me in the car but because I have been at home the last few weeks i have never been too far away from getting something to eat.

however when i go back to work - which hopefully might be next week it will mean a bit change in habit for me. I never really used to have breakfast before leaving the house to go to work, now i have to have breakfast before i do anything else, so will maybe have to get up a bit earlier. Plus I will be braving the train/ tube nightmare- so not sure how i'll cope there.

Also not really sure when I should tell work about Luckybean. I mean clearly if i end up at work and i am throwing up in my wastepaper bin a few eyebrows might be raised and i know that i dont have to tell them until 15 weeks before i am due (by which point they will either have twigged i am pregnant or think i am practising for a pie eating contest) so not really sure. I have got some antenatal appointments in April that I need time off for so maybe, should i go back to work on Mon say to my boss here I am, lets sort out the stress thing and by the way i am pregnant?

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 23/03/2010 09:43

Ok, I'm not listening to the stuff about birth. A few dignified pushes, that's all it will take. I expect by that stage, I'll be so sick of being pregnant that I'll just be happy for it to be extracted by whatever means possible.

Fortunately the McDonalds craving does not appear to be a constant, so I might not turn into a lard arse just yet. I am eating cereal alot at the moment as anything bland and dryish is the easiest thing to force down. Bizarrely enough, the sickness does go for a while after eating. It's a pretty depressing catch 22 - you feel too crap to eat, but eating will make you feel less crap. You do need to keep small stocks of munchies to habd at all times. I am driving up to Cumbria this afternoon (about a 4 hour journey) so have stocked up on grapes, crisps and biscuits, so that I can keep snacking at all times!

HP dont worry about the temp fluctuation - my cheap termometer was just the same (as was teh expensive one I got from Boots). And it is common to have couple of dips and spikes prior to ovualtion. My last month fertility friend got confused as to whether I ovulated on CD 15 or CD18, so it may take a couple of guesses. In order to best pinppoint ovulation, you are best monitiring other signs as well as temp - ideally CM. Temping is not enough - it needs to be comined with knicker checking!!

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SeaGreen · 22/03/2010 22:08

I just realised that baby cheapskate isnt a UK site! so sorry about that. any savings made are boun to get eaten up by P&P i suppose. this is what happens when one is only doing gratuitous wishful surfing with no eye on the practical side of things.

confuseddoiordonti · 22/03/2010 21:22

I guess your body must be needing certain vitamins / fat / fibre etc and hence you crave stuff with them in. Are you never without a portable snack then?

HoneyPetal · 22/03/2010 21:22

Blimey, Ive only driven home, washed and eaten and the thread is busy tonight!

Hello there to LST and Seagreen. Good to hear from both of you. You sound a bit happier, Seagreen, is that the case?

I have to say that many of my friends and family have had difficult births, but not all. I think it comes down to so many factors, like the shape of your pelvis, how your body reacts to the hormones, the position of the baby etc as to how painful it ends up being. Just because one woman finds it easy or tolerable, she shouldn't assume that's how it is for everyone, and vice versa. Maybe its just one of those things that happens to you and thats your experience. But Im sure for YTD and LQ it will be a few dignified pushes and ta daaaaaa...a baby

I got my thermometer from an online medical supplies specialist (Access Diagnostics) for £3, you have to buy a basal body temp one, not a fever one. I thought it would be ok, and maybe it is. Maybe this is just my body sorting itself out, but I am suspicious of the variability of the readings made moments apart. Or is this normal as well? Buggered if I know. I love my graph though! And I am on the fabled 'Day14' for the first time in 16 years. Perhaps I should start a thread and ask for recommendations for a thermometer.

I hope SueRock is ok, what a rubbish time for her. Maybe she is reading but not posting - come back soon!

lizardqueenie · 22/03/2010 21:11

Yes it is (said the fat lady in the corner).And I am trying to eat things that are good (carrots, grapes, banana, cereal) because its strange, you dont feel like oh god i am going to be sick so let me see whats in the biscuit tin.

I have no idea why but I have read that the sickness can be worse when you havent eaten (so thats why it is worse in the morning) or if you go a long time without eating (like I did today as I was stuck into some cleaning (freak)!

confuseddoiordonti · 22/03/2010 20:58

Eat in the shower? My goodness! I can't imagine what it must be like at all. Is eating the only thing that stops the nausea then? Why? How?!!

lizardqueenie · 22/03/2010 20:51

Evening all- long post coming up...here goes!

happy Monday - well no, but wishful thinking hey!

HP glad that you have got an appointment, you shouldn't tell yourself off for not going before- unfortunately sometimes I think that we just learn to (somehow) live with things that we know aren't right/ healthy but you deserve much more so good on you for making that step to the quacks! Sounds like your thermometer might be giving out some strange results , where did you buy it from? can you go into a shop and buy a thermometer. (other than those sticky on forehead ones that never seem to work or stick) Sorry if this is a bit of a niave question!

YTD well i guess burger cravings are better than eating no food at all? Do you feel sick? I feel sick if I don't eat, sometimes I have to munch carrots whilst my dinner is cooking jsut to stop myself gagging! And to think I laughed at those ladies who gave tips of keeping crackers next to the bed. Some mornings I think should I shower or eat first. Or maybe I could eat in the shower?

Confused loved hearing your story about the baby that just popped out. I love a story like that and hope that my experience is something similar. I do have a friend of the same age, her baby is nearly 2 but she said she had a really good experience (and she did have to have stitches) but she said there was this woman next door who was just mooing/ wailing/ screaming the whole time. She said she just couldnt understand it. That made me feel a lot better about the whole thing. She just made it sound like "it is what it is" rather than a tale of blood & horror that you get from quite a lot of people.

Sea green thanks for your very helpful post, I will look to those links once I have posted this message, v kind of you. Your post made me laugh!

As for me- boobies firmly in my bra you will be pleased to hear though DH still just doesnt get it (excuse my french) but "they fucking hurt ok". i did shout that at him yesterday and he said he doesnt like it when I shout- I said I dont like it when you touch me! Lots of love in the Lizard household!

Maternity swimsuit - hmmm, its crossed my mind though I think it would be a little forward to buy anything maternity just yet, just to be sure. And I am terrified that rather having room to grow it will be the best fitting swimsuit i have ever bought amply fitting my tummy- where do i go from there?? I've got another s/s i can use but its a bit more "serious" and I dont really look like a serious swimmer.

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