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To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 16/02/2010 10:56

Ok fellow ditherers, as we have filled up one thread (and still not made too many firm decisions) here's another one for us to continue to procrastinate and worry on.

Here's to more monitoring of relative green and redness, mutual support and occassional chivving, discussion of everything baby or not baby related, and perhaps even our first BFP...?

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AmandaCooper · 27/04/2010 22:04

I'm not so hot myself, confused. I've been reeling from a horrible head cold all day and couldn't face staying at work one more minute than I had to. Thank heaven I don't have DC to contend with at times like this, that's all I can say!

Hope we both feel better tomorrow!

confuseddoiordonti · 27/04/2010 21:35

Just been trying to log on for bloody ages. Was only really logging on to say I feel sick as a dog (although not my dog, she's actually rather perky) for some reason (like when you've been on a roundabout) so not up for chatting tonight.

However, before I do go, wanted to say to you, LST, that I hope you're okay and managed to get some sleep. And send you another hug. x

Oh yes, and asked my friend to alter the questions bit of the website (so thanks for whoever suggested that - feel too iffy to browse back over previous posts at the moment!)

BroodyRhi · 27/04/2010 12:27

Thanks Ladies

I would pass the broodiness on if i felt sure it would stay away but it keeps coming back! have started my own thread to see who might also be feeling like me and have looked at the "waiting to TTC part 2" page.

Enjoy the sunshine and thanks again

LeviStubbsTears · 27/04/2010 04:12

Was in full grip of 3.50am despair, but having read your posts am feeling much cheered.

And after description of the Naomi Woolf birth experience (even second-hand) shallowly rather comforted (sorry YTD and lq) by the thought that if it doesn't work out, at least I will never go through those unenviable experiences! Rachel Cusk's A Life's Work is also a good cold shower in this respect - has anyone read that? Ultimately it's not saying don't have kids (and I find her a tad annoying - her life sounds unbelievably privileged and for the most part pleasant and she does sound ever so slightly as though she's whingeing (sp?)) but she does write exceptionally well about how it can be pretty hard.

OK, am going to take another shot at sleep. I am also going to write properly in response to others' news when it's not the middle of the night. (Realized reading back through old posts that I'd misread - I think - a post by Suerock thinking you were talking about a specific job rather than just the general dilemma - sorry about that!) But just a huge thank you to everyone for your support. That's exceptionally nice of you hp to offer RL support (if that's what you were doing). That's really nice to know. Also thanks very much for the stats, Seagreen - they were very comforting.

Right am feeling most incoherent ? back to bed ? but thanks, ladies, for being a lifeline. And the most brilliant distraction from the inside of my head! (It's Manolos, Manolos... mutters off to bed...)

confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 23:17

Tempting.

Think it may be more so after reading the book I've just ordered! Then again, maybe not - and, as Shakespeare kind of said, therein lies the rub...

AmandaCooper · 26/04/2010 23:10

Let's not have any (except LQ and YTD, obviously)!

confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 23:05

I think that surely the better bits must weigh out the bad bits. Otherwise, we're (as in the human race) are insane.

Also, couples rarely have just one baby, no through choice anyway.

Still fucking scary though, it has to be said!

AmandaCooper · 26/04/2010 23:00

Wolf reaches positive conclusions and goes on to have another child, so it's not all bad.

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 26/04/2010 22:58

I'm not scared! (much).

Just read the last bit of the Observer review. I am drawing some comfort from it (and I have checked out my Amazon basket - I have to do this, so I may as well be informed ):

"Enright offers some catchy words of encouragement to new mothers. 'Life in here on the other side is just the same - only much better, and more difficult,' she says."

On that note, I'm off to bed. it's way past my bed time and I have to let the builders in at 7.00am tomorrow.

Night all.

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confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:55
Grin
AmandaCooper · 26/04/2010 22:48

Goodnight HP! Lol @ YTD - go and nail up your letterbox now, or move house!

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 26/04/2010 22:47

But on the upside, Vanessa Feltz never turned up at the Travel Lodge in Barrow in Furnness.

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 26/04/2010 22:45

Oh my goodness Confused - how fab is that hotel?

My last work's trip was three days in a travel lodge in Barrow in Furness.

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confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:44

ytd thanks for the book fodder. I have actually considered some aspects I have gleaned from this thread as possible book fodder, but need to get current book sorted and written first. The progress, of which, would have been considerably better if I had not discovered MN!

confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:41

ps HP me and S splashed out on a lovely meal at the Ladera, champagne and the works, and it was so tranquil and beautiful - AND THEN VANESSA FELTZ TURNED UP!

HoneyPetal · 26/04/2010 22:40

Oh, YTD, cancel them, for the love of kittens, cancel them.

I too am spending a lot of time yearning for simpler times. Sigh. Stupid young people and their stupid oodles of time

Anyway, I'm off to bed. As always, thanks for the chats. Night all.

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 26/04/2010 22:39

Up until that point I had been merrily chuckling my way through the last two pages of posts. Feeling greatly cheered by LST's relatively good news - I like teh sound of round one being an eveluation round and they'l be able to hit you with an extra dose of clomid (or whatever it is they use fo folicle stimulation) in the next cycle. I can't remember where I read it, but I think there is a fair amount of evidence to suggest it generally takes about three cycles to get a BFP.

Am massively impressed that Confused works for Cosmo Bride. How cool is that? I think there is definate mileage in a novel based around a bunch of ditherers assembled in a popular parenting website (Mumsnet has a certain media cachet at the moment - a novel based in Mumsnet would definately pique literary agents' interest) wondering whether to have kids or not. Action can be on or off line, known or unknown to the protagonists. Plenty of variation in narrative structure. i think its a winner. Combined with an impossibly glamerous bench scientist as heroine - what's not to like.

Right, that's Confused sorted, who's next?

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confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:38

My options are open too! Terminably it seems...

confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:37

To put this in perspective, I have no had any other freebies of that ilk! We did have an offer of a weekend in Edinburgh but had split up and I didn't want to go on my own or with a friend and then it was too late. Also, trust me, when paying I've stayed in some utter shitholes!

AmandaCooper · 26/04/2010 22:34

I like to keep my options open HP, that's why I'm on both threads!

confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:32

And, on the same holiday, we stayed in one of these too. Princess Margaret's favourite villa, if you please.

Oh dear. Shouldn't have Googled those places as it reminds me of simpler times (can't say happier, but it def is simpler).

Yes, HP, youth is most certianly wasted on the young!

AmandaCooper · 26/04/2010 22:31

The other one. I have just ordered it. Will report back!

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YorkshireTeaDrinker · 26/04/2010 22:28

At least you are still able to consider it!!

I unwittinging put both Misconceptions and Making Babies into my Amazon basket, thinking they would be an interesting read and I could possibly contribute an alternative perspective to the ensuing debate. And then you start quoting the birth trauma bits.

And its too late for me to change my mind!!!!

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HoneyPetal · 26/04/2010 22:27

The Anne Enright. I haven't read the Naomi Wolf one yet.

These books and our feelings about them are the reason we are on this thread, not the Waiting to TTC one!!!!

That hotel is Un.Be.Lievable. The last trip I got out of work was staying in insect infested shower-over-the-loo halls of residence with blood stained sheets in London. Seriously. No wonder the mag game is a competitive one. Saying that, so is the science game, that trip had a waiting list of people to attend!

confuseddoiordonti · 26/04/2010 22:20

is this the Naomi Wold book or the other one?

Freebies? Oh yes. Me and S stayed here - the pic titled luxury villa with pool is the same view as the one me and S took with ourselves in the forground. And we had SO many free Clarins / Molton Brown etc etc toiletries to take with us it was ridiculous.

Hmm, no wonder there are too many people wanting to get in the same business...