Secondary Infertility and IVF

wiggles . Keep focusing on the positives. It really does work.

Hello all, I'm pleased to see you all!

Sorry about your holiday Wiggle, glad to hear that you still want to go back though.

You sound so upbeat about the IVF Earplugs, it's great. Got everything crossed for you both.

Hi Huckabees! I'm still waiting for the dye job on my tubes, seems to be taking ages for the swab results to reach our referal centre... must chase them up. Hopefully get an appointment soon.

Love to all, great you are all back for a visit! xxx

Thanks for the kind wishes ladies and good to hear from you.

Sorry the holiday didn't go according to plan Wiggle, isn't it just typical. I always seem to pick up a streaming cold whenever I've been on a flight, obviously nowhere near as bad as being ill for 2 weeks but still disappointing. Great that you'll try again next year, you obviously did like the look of the little that you did get the chance to see?

As for being brave, I'm afraid I can't confess to that myself but I have to say the clinic have been wonderful so far, very calming and reassuring. Of course I haven't really even started yet (next week, gulp) but we do feel like we're in good hands and its been amazing how the pressure of ttc has been lifted after making the decision.

Did you get more investigations in the end Lilly?

Wiggles - so sorry your trip didn't work out too well. Just wanted to let you know that I'm still thinking about you all, and I check back here every now and again to see how you're doing.

earplugs: fingers crossed for the IVF clinic.

Lily - any news on your tubes? (That sounds a bit weird doesn't it?)

Thanks Earplugs. Un-mumsnetty hugs coming your way

Thanks Lily, yep I'm not one to hang about! DS has had several tests now and despite living like a monk since December (well apart from the sex bit!), there hasn't been any change in his results so we just decided to get cracking with IVF rather than dwell on it any longer.

Sorry to hear AF is with you, it really is the pits isn't it. Wishing you lots of luck on your journey, whatever path you decide to take.I'll let you know what this IVF route is like once I'm out the other side!

Wow Earplugs that's so quick to start your IVF, you were only just looking for a clinic in your last post! Let me know if it happens, I remember you saying it wasn't an easy ride in your first pregnancy, I'll keep everything crossed for you.

Nothing has changed here. I'm with AF again and it always makes me think of everyone else on here and wonder how you all are.

Thanks for posting. It's nice to hear from you again.

Hi Lily, I'm still here mostly just lurking about.

How are you getting on? We've started our IVF journey and hopefully will be starting next cycle all going well. I'm actually quite relaxed about the whole thing to be honest. Whilst another DC would be wonderful,I can also see plenty of benefits to having just the one (mostly materialistic I have to say but still benefits none the less).

Maybe my frame of mind may change once I get engulfed by the whole process but so far so good!

Would love to hear how everyone else is doing.

Where have all people gone??

I've come for a whinge, I do hope you all don't mind!

Af arrived yesterday and I'm so totally bummed. I was tentatively hopeful this month but it was not to be. I sort of feel like the stuff that I'm trying is doing something. The agnus castus set of three days of the worst PMT I've had for years, just before my last af so I guess my hormornes have been affected as I've not had the same effect this month. The acupuncture seemed to stimulate a good ovulation so I guess I'll keep going with that a bit longer. ARGH!!!!

Anyway, how is everyone? How are things progressing with the clinic hunt Earplugs?

Please all come back soon x

Hi all,
Sorry to hear that about the appointment Lily,god this journey is frustrating isn't it.

We're still waiting for DH's results to come back. He ended up having to wait another couple of weeks before going as he came down with full blown flu 3 days before his original appointment. Gutted as no doubt that will have affected this set of results so we'll still be none the wiser unless we wait another 3 months again for retest.

Anyway, I've sent off for some brochures for our nearest fertility clinics. Still can't quite believe that its come to this, but I think ivf really is going to be our only hope.

Hello everyone. Sorry to have bailed for a bit but it was all getting a bit much.

How was Barcelona Wiggle? Did you have a good trip?

Well we've had our consultant appointment and sadly it was the anticipated waste of time. I'm going to have my tubes investigated to confirm they are open. Then that's it. I've started some acupuncture and I'm taking the agnus castus so I guess we'll go from there.

Wishing you all well and hoping I can entice everyone back for a catch up soon. x

Good luck Lilybunny and Earplugs. Lily, even if you don't get the news you want, having clarity about things usually helps in the long term. And you never know, there might be good news, so stay optimistic.

Wiggles - have a fab time in Barcelona. I am resolved to go myself now (even though I'm a useless traveller - hate all the packing and planning and actually getting there bit. DH gets very frustrated with me, and I wish I could just be a carefree, throw a change of clothes in a bag and take off kind of gal, but I'm just not). Anyway, can't wait to hear how it goes.

Hi all.

I just got my appointment through for our referral. It's on the 4th March and I'm surprised to find I'm dreading it a bit. I thought I'd feel more positive that we were starting to investigate things further but I'm petrified. My friend has not long had her appointment and they basically said they couldn't help and did she fancy IVF? I will be devestated if that's all it will achieve.

I don't even really know what we want to ask yet. I thought if I had some idea of what I wanted out of the appointment then that would be a start, but I think that wanting to arrive back home pregnant is a bit optimistic!

Hope that you are keeeping your sanity through your 2ww Earplugs

Hopefully catch up with everyone soon, seems to have gone a bit quiet at the moment. Hope all is well (if all is really well, as in BFP, don't be frightened to let us know )

Hi All,
Nothing much to report here either, also on 2ww but again pretty much know its a no hoper as I'm getting the usual PMT temper. Also was starting to feel a bit nervous as only a few weeks now before DH repeat test but I can't help thinking that there isn't a significant improvement otherwise I'd be pregnant!

Sorry Lilly that your DH repeat showed no improvement. Will be interested to hear how you get on at the clinic as I think I maybe following in your footsteps.

I did try temping for a few cycles but it drove me mad. My charts were a bit up and down because 1) I could never manage to take my temp at the same time every morning and would often forget and get up to go to the loo or something first and 2) I sleep with my mouth wide open (nice!) so my temps were never that accurate anyway. I know you can take them via other routes but there was NO WAY I was going to do that first thing every morning. Having said that it was possible to see a very rough 2 phase pattern if you squinted but I found the whole thing made me feel obsessive so I stopped. I think you need to do it for a good few months to get a trend.

I'm using persona at the mo to identify fertile times. I know opks don't work for everyone but I get positives at roughly the same time each month so figure its doing its job. Unfortunately I am a long way past the stage where I can enthusiastically BD every 2 days throughout the entire month and hold down a job at the same time so I find it helps.

How is everyone else doing?

Hi all, how is it going?

Well apparently my dh's repeat test was no different to the first, so we are just waiting for an appointment to our local centre to come through now (hopefully we'll be able to get all the numbers then). I've been trying the whole temping thing but I seem to have bugger all temperature shift, maybe a bad sign?! I've also been taking my agnus castus this month, but I've read that it can take about three months to start having any effect. I'm in the 2ww at the moment, but I'm probably just wasting my time, again.

Hope everyone is doing a bit better.

Hello all, welcome back Clure and welcome TSK.

I thought I'd just pop in briefly, life is a bit crazy just now...a good distraction though.

How is everyone?

Wiggle, wow what a decision about the IVF. Sometimes it's so hard to say 'that's just not right for us'. There just seems to be an expectation that everyone wants IVF. Fingers crossed things will be more positive with another retest. Fab about the Barcelona trip

How is everyone getting on in the testing department? My DH has just put in another repeat sample so we are just waiting on the results now. Did you find a clinic TSK?

I'm hopeful about what huckabees said about the baby stage passing. As time moves on and I don't conceive I think why do I want to rock my lovely little boat? Then my dd asks why she isn't a big sister yet, and I'm heartbroken . My friends are still breeding like bunnies and it is just still so hard to smile and congratulate them. Argh!!

On that happy note! Catch up soon x

Sounds like a plan Wiggle! Good for you, I think just by having agreed the way forward sort of takes some pressure off and allows you to focus your energy rather than contantly worrying about anything and everything.

I think huckabees has hit the nail on the head for me. Currently we are still well within the 'baby stage' for almost all our closest friends so it is a constant reminder and does make me feel a bit left out of the group. But, I guess in a few years time when the kids have grown up a bit we will all move onto the next stage and so this won't seem as much as an 'issue'. Its just at the moment its crap, I had another pal call this morning to tell me they are expecting their third. I am of course pleased for them and don't have any hard feelings but it did make me feel a bit 'panicky' for a while, almost like I've well and truely been left behind. Stupid I know, its not like its a race or anything but just when you start to feel like you could accept things the way they are, someting comes along to challenge you again!

Hi TSK and welcome. Sorry to hear you're also having problems. I'm pretty sure that if you are paying, there will always be someone willing to treat you, its just a case of finding the place that is right for you. I'm sorry that we're not much help on the clinic front, I think we're more the 'non IVF thread' at the moment but there are certainly ladies around who will be able to give you the info that you need.

Wiggles, I'm glad you are feeling more positive, and looking forward to things. I think you have made a good decision re not going on holiday with your friends - there will be other chances to do this down the line I'm sure.

From my experience, you are right about the expectation/hope fading with time, but be prepared to get caught out every now and then. Some months are broodier than others for some reason. You probably realise this, so hope I don't sound patronising.

I have definitely changed in my attitude since my DS got older and we've moved on from baby/toddler stages (along side many of my friends). I now walk through the baby sections of the shops without a second glance, and although I think tiny babies are oh so cute and cuddly, I am always quite happy to hand back my friend's toddler after babysitting for her (fun for an hour or so, then I've had enough!!!). But I am four years on from knowing I'd be unlikely to have more, and it probably took a couple of years to get to where I am.

I am resisting the temptation to say you have made a good choice (because it's such a personal thing) but I think it's great that you have made a decision about the IVF itself, and can now focus on other things a bit. And Barcelona seems like as good a distraction as any! (Would love to go - DH has been twice, but both times without me )

Hi TSK - welcome to the thread. You will see from my posts that I experienced a similar thing to you, so know how it feels. No advice on clinics I'm afraid, but hope you can get help on the other thread about that.

Hi, My first post folks. We have a 4 year old and been TTC for 2 years for no 2, after all the tests, we eventually had a a laproscopy in which they told me that that my C-section had caused my tubes to become twisted and so the eggs had nowhere to go. I am on a 3-6 month TTC regime again before going back again for another consultation. Worried because I'm now approaching late 30's and keep reading of the chances of fertility going down. Also, does anyone know of a private clinic in the London region that is not going to dismiss you if you are a few pounds over their presecribed BMI weight limit. Losing weight on top of the emotional rollercoaster of IVF is not something I am looking forward to? Help please