The continuing adventures of The First Time Frolickers!!!!

Me again!, no need to be sorry for worrying us WhiteRoses, just so pleased that everything is ok with you

That sounded really miserable - I'm not, I just don't want to get all excited that I could be PG and then have AF arrive.

D'you know, I'm always very conscious about revealing too much about myself on MN, however, on this thread I'm surprisingly open, sometimes to the point where I wonder who's reading it!

Feeling tired, yes I did wonder if it could be an early symptom WhiteRoses, but I'm quite often very tired due to the meds that I'm taking, so probably nothing to read into there.

Re testing, I'm planning on waiting for AF to be a no show, then I'll test around the 30th. I don't feel any different to last month though, so I 'm not holding out too much hope.

Zippy and Claire - you posted while was typing that. It is actually really nice to think that people who've never met me were that concerned...

The thing is, I think the reason I feel so embarrassed is that I know I'd have been stalking and worrying too if it was any of you, but I just didn't think. It said 24hrs till the posts would be removed, and I just could not keep my eyes open... Anyway, need to try and be a bit more careful with what I say now, I think. Don't think Mum would ever end up on this thread, but on the other one... Imagine if she had read up about me ambushing DH, etc! Ugh!

You're so nice Pixie -

Yeh, she was my mum's midwife when she had my sister, and, although Mum described her as "blunt", she did like her. Having said that (small town), I know a few years ago, she was wanting to retire (her husband told Mum) but then, next thing we knew, their house was reposessed and shortly afterwards, she kicked her husband out. So maybe there's more to it than meets the eye. Still think she was out of order though.

Anyway, Bunny - like your thinking about cycle 3! They "third time lucky" and "lucky seven" so maybe there's something in it! Hopefully you don't have to wait till cycle 7 though!

Sad about that couple, living apart for the first nine months of their baby's life. Still, I suppose the main thing is that the baby won't remember.
Kkas - sounds like February will be a more positive month. When's DH going to the reflexologist?

Pixie - sorry to hear you were having a bad day yesterday. I'm exactly the same though. It's hard to relax and be happy when you know the risks... Are you going to go to the doctor soon? Have you told anyone? (Mum in particular?)

Seablue - months one and two we went for every other day without fail, every day if possible. Month three, we stopped trying/didn't prevent it. Only BD'd a few times in the whole month (when we felt like it - not when I thought I was ovulating). That's when I got the BFP! Go figure! Seems to me like it's just pure fluke!

Addie - sorry I can't help - I've never temped... Hope someone else is able to though...

Fudge - sorry about AF.

misshoohaa - sorry I spelled your name wrong - missed the second a!

Yorkshire - that was good that you got DH's results back... Have you phoned about yours yet?

Claire - you were feeling tired? That's the only sure way you'd know I'm pregnant - feel like I could sleep round the clock! Or maybe you just had a busy day? When are you testing anyway?

Calyx - to hear about row with DH... That's not on! It's sort of the opposite in our house. I cook and I've had the week off. Huge pile of dishes there now, which I'd love not to have to do, but think it'd be totally unfair for him to come in tonight and have to do them. (He could have done them last night though! After all, I may not be "working" but I have been pretty busy growing his baby! ) Lol!

Drew - lol at all your research! My DH told me I was obsessed! Haha! Have you ever had bleeding like that before? I didn't realise implantation could last that long... I had a small bleed on CD30 that has been put down to implantation. (BFP on CD32.) It was only a tiny amount though. Bright red when I wiped after going to the toilet, but not enough to have marked my underwear.

Zippy's - my EDD is four days after my mum's when she had me... As soon as this apple pip's ears are working, it'll be getting a serious talking to... NOBODY'S allowed to hijack MY birthday! I claimed it first! Lol!

Pixie - lol! I've never even told DH what EWCM is!

Actually, I feel a bit cheated by my EWCM... I had it (unmistakably) on CD19 and CD21. But going by the Clearblue Digital pregnancy test, I had already conceived by CD17! Any guesses as to what that was all about?!

Pixie, Zippy, Kkas and Claire - sooooo sorry again for worrying you!

Just realised that i too have justed outed myself as a bit of a cyber stalker at least we can be stalkers together

Don't apologise Whiteroses the fact that you are ok is the main thing (now I sound like I am mothering you!)

I hope your thyroid sorts itself out and the meds work. I think sometimes people in the mediclal profession need to wake up and realise what they are saying and how hurtful it can be.

Anyway better get back to work but just so so glad you are ok

Oh thank goodness for that! So pleased you are still with us WhiteRoses

Agree with pixie and zippy, that midwife is a cow! Unfortunately, with my medical history, I've come across a few bitch nurses in my time - the caring profession eh?!!...

so so glad you are ok, its amazing how concerned you can feel for someone you havent actually met in rl. shows what a god send mn is.

Agree with pixie what a cow Lets hope the next one is better.

Ugh, Pixie - I'm SO sorry! It's such a stupid reason as well!

Ugh, just read through your posts about me there... Ugh, I'm so embarrassed that I worried you...

What happened was, after my midwife appointment yesterday, I went to see my mum. We were talking about the pregnancy, and she started telling me about this marvellous site called "Mumsnet". And apparently she's a member. Never dreamed that would be the case, seeing as she only learned how to send an e-mail a couple of years ago. Anyway, she joined the special needs forum but was saying that she's pretty sure there's a pregnancy forum too and I should really have a look, cause it'd be a great source of support. Said if her back wasn't bad and she was able to get out of the bed, she'd show me - she's sure there would be a lot of other first-time-mums on there, and people due around the same time as me. I suddenly thought of my mum trawling through the forums and coming across my posts - particularly the ones about EWCM and BDing! So I thought I'd try and delete the ones that I wouldn't like her to read, or that I thought would make her put 2 and 2 together about WhiteRoses being her daughter. Anyway, I started doing that this morning (says it takes up to 24hrs to remove posts) and fell asleep halfway through - I've been so tired with this pregnancy, it's ridiculous. Anyway, woke up (about half an hour ago ) and saw the panic I'd caused. As I say, I'm completely mortified!

Everything went fine with the midwife. Well, suppose it could've gone better. Went in and she had a student there - didn't ask me if I minded. Then started telling the student that they don't normally see women ("them") when "they're" this early but it'd be a waste of time sending me away now and re-booking an appointment for next week. But normally there's no point cause there's such a high risk of miscarriage before 6wks. (All said about me, not to me.) Then she went through the forms, making assumptions most of the time. Got quite a few things wrong. I.e. my date of birth, the hospital I wanted to go to, my emergency contact, my nationality... She didn't even ask me if I had someone I felt would support me through the birth - just ticked yes. Assumed I didn't take/have never taken drugs - true but she wasn't to know... Anyway. I wasn't impressed. I had to ask her about scans. She says I'll get one at 11-12wks and then she "can't remember" if the hospital I've chosen does a 20wk one or not. I asked would my medical condition impact on the number of scans. She said yes, I'll definitely get one extra one at 34wks, maybe more, if they feel they need to keep a close eye. She told the student that I'll have consultant-led care cause I'm high risk cause of my medical condition. I asked what was my increased risk of miscarriage due to my medical condition. She didn't know - 15% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage and mine's more likely to. No reassurance that I'm doing other things right - i.e. not smoking/drinking/eating well, etc. She was horrible. Anyway. I've another appointment with a different midwife in 2wks time. Hopefully that'll be better.

Aside from that, blood test results were back. Confirmed pregnancy (yay! It's not all been in my head!). Also confirmed that my thyroid (stable pre-pregnancy) is now very underactive again. That's not a good thing. But they've changed my medication and in 6-8wks, when my system's used to the new dose, they'll test me again. Will monitor it closely. So fingers crossed. Always knew that was likely to be the case.

Okay, going to post this now, cause it's stupidly long (as usual!)

Again, REALLY sorry for worrying you all...

Sorry - very innocent explanation - totally mortified to have caused any worry. Going to write a longer post now (to explain) but wanted to posst this first to stop you worrying! Sorry!

Have just checked the graduates thread and the last posts from WhiteRoses were early yesterday morning. Oh dear, hope she's ok.

All of her posts say: message withdrawn at posters request. This is worrying.

She had her doctors appointment yesterday didnt she, did she post on the graduates after that?

i saw that too pixie i'm worry too. hope you're ok whiteroses

Pixie I hadnt noticed about Whiteroses as her last post here was a few pages ago. I too am now really worried. I hope it just something innocent like someone has accessed her machine or something.

I really hope she is ok

addie keep at the temping. you might ov a bit later this cycle. i know i don't ov until day 19-22 of my cycle, and i don't think i would have ever found that out until i started temping. let us know how you get on.

zippys i think i ov on tuesday and lp is usually around 11-12 days for me. so i'll be testing jan 31st (before i jet off to ny on business!) if AF not here by then.

hi everyone else. no time for individual posts today as work is quite busy. am trying to keep up with all the news though. hope you have a nice day!

Just updating the list

Has anyone heard from Sparkly

Also just because I am nosy and obsessed when are people planning on testing that are nearing end of 2ww?

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD147
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD125
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD109
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD63
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD38
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD38
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28-30 CD34
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD31
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD26
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD25
lipstie TTC#1 Cycle6 UCL28 CD25
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD24
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL33 - 39 CD23
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD22
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD22
Pidgin TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL29-30 CD22
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD20
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD20
evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL ?? CD20
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD17
Capricorn76 TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL 24 CD17
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL 26-27 CD15
DrewsGirl TTC#1 cycle 10 UCL 25 CD14
seablue TTC #1 Cycle 10 UCL 28ish CD 14
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD11
chancewouldbeafinething TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL21-28 CD11
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32CD11
Eadwacer TTC#1 Cycle1 UCL24 CD9
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 32 CD8
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL26-40 CD7
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 32 CD6
Hermya321 TTC#1 Cycle1 UCL? CD5
fudgecat TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL30 CD3

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan
Hobnob76 BFP 17 Jan
MadameG BFP 17 Jan
pixiestix BFP 18 Jan

Morning fellow crazy ladies

Bunny if you are crazy you are only as crazy as the rest of us, if tampering with cycles helps for a BFP, go for it! , although as I am on cycle 8 I hope there is still hope for me!

Kkas I think the fact that your dh is looking at relaxation techniques really good step in the right direction. It can be so difficult, my DP was really tired last night so sex but I think I ovulated yesterday or the day before and as he is away again tonight we havent had much chance this month.

Pixie I can understand why you are so worried, I will be the same if I ever get a BFP. From your earlier post did you have sex on cd 6 or 6th of Jan as cd seems really early and has made me worry I am leaving it too late.

Seablue we have no set pattern really, we aim for for the period around ovulation but due to weaird cycles it can be a couple of weeks to 3. Then if I think I am ovulating then try everyday but it doesnt always work out.

Addie could it be that your temp has risen but not a lot, have you drawn your cover line etc? If you are worried I would go to the docs and ask for blood tests even if it just puts your mind at rest.

Fudge sorry AF got you, hope you enjoyed lots of wine and chocolate.

Hermya - lol at "at least I will look good when I wallow" - Glad you are also feeling a bit better today.

Drewsgirl dont worry about lots of posts, there is no limit Lets hope you have had an implantation bleed - keeping my fingers crossed.

Mumsnerves I think we can let you off from not posting to BD!

Yokshire glad we could help Try not to worry too much about DH tests, there we loads of good points to take from the results. I would call the docs today and ask for a more detailed explanation it may help to put your mind at rest.

Calyx sorry I cant add much but as Drewsgilr has said it could be implantation.

Claire hope you are feeling better after a good night sleep.

I also feel more human today rather than a walking hormone. This may mean I am in the 2ww or as my cycles are rather erratic it may mean there is still a week till I OV!! I had a depressing thought this morning, when looking at the stats Drewsgirl has posted although I am in cycle 8 we have actually been trying for 9 months now due to my long cycles, but hey I am hoping to join the Feb BFP's as then the baby would be due near my birthday.

Drew I'm pretty sure that my completely non-scientific observations mean nothing. Especially as a reasonable percentage of people conceive after cycle 7.

Yorkshire I like the prime numbers theory-it appeals to the maths geek inside me Sorry your DH feels like he failed his sperm analysis. It sounds like it's very close to being normal so maybe he'll pass with flying colours on the next one.

Pixie I fully intend not to turn thirty - instead I will be twenty-ten

I am aghast at the accusations of cycle tampering in order to fit my cycle 3=BFP theory - I just decided that I am not going to count cycle 1 as you're supposed to have one cycle after the pill before TTC so I decided yesterday that that's what I did

Calyx - I just had a look on google and you can get spotting on an anovulatory cycle. Sorry

I also found that ovulation sticks can tell you you have an lh surge when you are already pregnant.

I also found that an implantation bleed can last 3-5 days filling about 1 panyliner a day. I had that this month it just lasted 1 1/2 days. Oh my god i have to tell dh when he gets in .. although i might just be reading what i want to read. I can hope though!

Sorry i have posted 3 times in half hour!