The continuing adventures of The First Time Frolickers!!!!

Hi girls,

Could someone please advise me on what's going on?

Basically I'm on day 11 of my cycle which is 24 days so I haven't ovulated yet although I'm very close to it.

Since last night I've been getting quite moody and today I've very irritable. I've also been getting back pain, a dull stomach ache, soft stools, nausea and I have no appetite.

I know that there is no way that I can be pregnant because I know I haven't ovulated yet. Nevertheless are these symptoms signs that I'm about to ovulate because they feel like PMS symptoms (but they come after you ovulate right?)

fudgecat Don't worry I'll try not to let low flying cups of coffee near the DH bits. Although sometimes there is that temptation when he is being a bit of an idiot.

Drewsgirl I know what you mean, tea is like my crack. How on earth am I suppose to cope without it's lovely lovely presence in my my life.

Anyway, I signed up for fertility friend yesterday. I am a little bewildered at the amount of stuff I don't know about TTC.

Worrisome, Claire I hope the 2WW goes quick for you both and worrisome I hope you get to cancel that clinic appointment.

morning girlies - resident stat bunny incoming..... hope you're all looking forward to a nice weekend.

still no temp rise here so there is still hope for this month yet. weekends seem to be better for DH and me BD-wise so i will try to DTD but with as little stress/pressure as possible. might even hint that it's too late this month anyway so DH won't feel like he must perform. or is that just going too far? hey - a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do!

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD141
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD119
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD103
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD57
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD41
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD36
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD32
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD32
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD32
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28-30 CD28
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD28
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD27
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD25
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD24
fudgecat TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL30 C24
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD20
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD19
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD18
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD16
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD16
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD16
Pidgin TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL29-30 CD16
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD14
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD14
evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL ?? CD14
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD11
Capricorn76 TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL 24 CD11
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL 26-27 CD9
DrewsGirl TTC#1 cycle 10 UCL 25 CD8
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD5
chancewouldbeafinething TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL21-28 CD5
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32 CD5
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL26-40 CD3
Hermia321 TTC#1 Cycle-1 UCL?? CD -7

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan

fudgecat - the only time i have needed the ground to swallow me up was when she asked me in front of dh he was so embarrased love him, she had asked me before but i hadnt told him - lol at you telling hermya not to spill a cuppa on dh's bits!

Thanks hoping & hermya i hadnt thought of ebay/amazon, i will have a scour of the net today after work. I bought the CB ov sticks before with the lines but i am pretty sure that i didnt get a peak day which was worrying. So this time i have bought the digital ones which give you a smiley face when its time to do it. I am starting on Sunday so hopefully next week i will get my smile.

Hermya thats good to know about the caffeine, i knew you were supposed to cut down on coffee but i didnt realise it was tea aswell, i drink more than 6 cups in the morning at work alone maybe i should but some herbal or something

Drewsgirl Seriously check out ebay, I've found a couple on there going for almost half what you've seen.

Hobnob76 I seriously laughed at your tmi re sticky out nips and couldn't help but think of those nipple daisys they sell in La Senza which made me laugh even more. I really hope that you get a lovely suprise this month!!!

chance I've been my normal info hording geeky self and researched (asked other MN) about caffine and apparently you can have either 3 cups of coffee per day or six cups of tea and be ok. You're not supposed to have over 300mg's a day or something like that. I'm the same as you though, I don't think I would be able to face life without my morning cuppa.

I went out and bought fruit tea today which is something I normally hate. But, I added some honey to it and it actually tasted pretty good so I may have found a solution to at least several cups of my caffine addiction.

I always wonder though, my Mum said she was told to drink guiness when she was pregnant with me and she's also the biggest tea pot going. I mean I still ended up turning up. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

OH no..i have been dreading having to give up coffee and diet coke - alcohol was no problem, but my morning coffee...that will be hard.
Is it really something that can hinder ttc? i know that you shouldnt have too much of it but surely a little???

my past few cycle lengths have been anywhere from 21 to 28 days, so this month i have decided to POAS until i get the dates right!I am stocked up on CB tests(...man they must be making some dosh)

whoever updates the stats next can you change mine to todays:
chancewouldbeafinething TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL21-28 CD4

Good luck for anyone BDing

Thanks Worrisomeheart and fudgecat sore boobs do sound like a good symptom but according to FF I had the exact same cramping and sore boobs last month so not going to read anything into it at all.

I've felt like rubbish all day! Had major tummy cramps, a little like AF being here but no sign or spotting. Still got sore boobs, tmi but my nips seem to be stuck out a lot! :laugh2: I'm tired but that could be due to not sleeping very well, and my skin on my face has broken out with eczema, like it does when I'm about to be ill, and had a high temp for the last 2 days, maybe I've got some sort of virus.

Good luck everyone within 2ww

drewsgirl lol at your mum! It's something my mum would say too if I'd told her

evening all

warm welcome to hopinggotasnowydayintheend and hermmia321 chance why not hide his cycle clips?

the sore books sound promising hobnob76 and bunnygirl80

drewsgirl lol at your mum! i would want the ground to open up and swallow me if my mum said that to me

hermya321 i wouldnt worry too much about caffeine - tbh the only major risk would be spilling a hot cuppa on your DP's bits!!

Lilly is a great name fulham you must be so excited

Not much news from me, had a very boring day in the office . Its another 7 days til AF is due and i have promised myself not to test early this time. Dont think that this is "the month" tho as i have been in such a foul mood all day and thats a sure sign that AF is on its way

Wow, I can't believe how fast this thread moves now! Will try and catch up...

Hobnob I don't want to add to the hyper-excitement but I've got to say that all sounds really promising - particularly the veiny boobs!

Whiteroses I'm so pleased you're sticking around - I love your long posts, and will also be lurking on your AN thread (and hoping to join soon!) How was the docs?

bunnygirl sure is sounding promising - any news?

aly and chance - I have a similar situation in that I'm a marathon-widow...DH runs ridiculous miles every week and I don't know if he's really thought about the cutting down thing - when I suggested it he said that surely the fact that he exercises is a better thing than not at all... I don't know but to be honest he gets so 'climbing-the-walls'ish if he doesn't run I don't want to push it!!

drew - mega lol at your mum asking if you're practising!

claire will be joining you on the 2ww soon - argh!

I have to say that I'm in a funny place about it all this month - I guess because I've got the clinic booked for the start of next cycle, so I'm almost not bothered about this one - daft huh? However, having said that, it would be great to be able to call the clinic and cancel because of a BFP! We've taken a different tack this cycle and started BDing slightly later than normal (in an effort to keep momentum going until my temp peaks, which is normally around 17/18). I don't know if this wil help but it keeps us slightly more sane!!!!

Anyway, welcome, welcome to the newbies. This is a great thread to be on!

Have a fantastic Friday everyone!

Hi Drewsgirl,

Well, if you are as much of a control freak person who likes to know what's going on as I am, then yes it is definitely worth the investment!

I got mine from Amazon and it was only £60ish.

As I had had no cycle at all for nearly 5 years, and the Doc said it would probably take about 6 months to 'get back to normal'. I would just rather know whether I had ov'd or not, otherwise I would have been keeping First Response in business singlehandedly while I obsessively P'dOAS

Dh though it hilarious how excited I got when I started showing 'Highs' and then Ov'd - it was just nice (and reassuring) that things were working as they should.

I guess the main advantage is that it tells you when you are about to ovulate, so you can, ahem, take action early (and take advantage of the fact that the 'swimmers' can live for a few days in your tubes), rather than the OPKs which I believe tell you when you have already ov'd, in which case you only have about 24 hours of your fertile time left in which to do the do.

BFN last month, but keeping everything crossed for this time round!

Pixie How exciting! I know what you mean re the POAS - it is especially troublesome as I do a lot of travel, so have some serious time-zone issues with the testing window - my tiny brain is unable to work out when I should be setting the testing window for...

I'm sure you will be fine with the stretching, as some other posters have said, pilates/yoga is actively recommended for pg women so I am sure no harm done - will be keeping everything crossed for you this month!

Thanks to everyone else for welcoming me - lets hope there will be many lovely BFPs for us this month

Hoping/Pixie - and anyone else with a CBFM - is it worth it? I have bought a pack of CB ov sticks which were £20 i was just a bit put off by the fact that a CBFM was £100! If it works though its worth it.

Hello all

Muser, so sorry to hear you are taking yourself off the list. I had a couple of months break from TTC and found it truly beneficial (I'd been getting pretty down and stressed by it all, as well as other factors) - hope to see you again soon, take care

And sorry to hear of your AF chalky and chance.

Fulham, Lilly is a lovely name - very pretty have you found WhiteRoses graduates PG thread yet?

Pixie, I've done that too!, not by stretching for something but by sneezing! I felt a sharp pain and suddenly got all worried about what I might of dislodged I'm sure it happened when I wasn't TTC too, so, probably nothing to worry about - Good advice Hermya

Ooh capricorn, what does wheatgrass taste like?

I'm almost past my fertile time now and am about to begin the dreaded 2WW, DH and I have been very active this month hopefully it will be enough.

Hi girls,

Wow this thread moves fast! sorry in advance if I've failed to get back to anyone.

@Calyx, Claireinthecommunity and Chancewouldbeafinething - Thanks for the encouragement. I should have joined earlier as its good to hear positive stories and I've been letting TTC get me down especially as nearly everyone I know seems to be pregnant or has recently given birth.

I'm starting Acupuncture on Monday and will start Yoga the week after. I started drinking wheatgrass last week and I'm trying to think positively.

@Hermya321 - I've read that you should cut down caffeine but I don't think one cup a day will make much of a difference. Early on in my TTC mission I cut out alcohol, caffeine etc and was miserable so now I drink one cup of coffee a day and drink about 2-3 units of alcohol a week. I think depriving yourself of things you like just makes you stressed out (I've totally stopped smoking though although I was only on about 5 a week, mainly on a weekend anyway so it wasn't hard to stop).

pixie I just goggled 'pregnant women shouldn't stretch' and well I came up with nothing that would suggest that you shouldn't. Also remember that lots of pg women do yoga and pilatees. I was in a very full on dance class for a year with a pregnant woman and her baby arrived very much safe and sound. Ballet dancers still go to class when they're pg and from prior experience I can tell you that you twist in some very inhumane ways and they're still fine. I don't think you've blown it by any stretch of the imagination. The human body is a tough little thing and so are baby beans. Besides if you have pulled anything it would be one of your tummy muscles if you have been stretching.

Don't worry take a deep breath, go get yourself a cup of tea and try to relax because worry can add to muscle pain. Our bodies are weird strange little things.

Hope that helps!

Heya guys!!!

First Sevens what awful news and such a tramatic time for you!! I really dont know what to say other than im thinking of you right know and am sure when the time is right it will happen!!
I cant even begin to imagine what you are going through!
Big hug being sent it will get better!!

Tahnks for the congrates guys!! I had a feeling I was having a girl!! DH wanted a boy at first but when he see her on the screen he just fell in love straight away!!
We have decided to call her Lilly!!

Thanks guys still so many of you passing the BFP's congratulations to u all and still wishing u all the best of luck who are TTC!! I will still keep poping in now and again to check on your progress!!

I know im hoping its going to go quick for me now as im already finding sleeping etc a little uncomfortable she is a big girl apprantly lol!! Im only tiny and so is DH so who knows where she has got that from nothing to do with the macDonalds craving I had at the begining haha!!

xxxxxxxx

I'm on the list, is it sad that I'm really excited by that??

Just been looking around the net about conception etc being a bit of a geek about the whole thing and I found out that drinking caffine may hinder your hopes of conception?

Is this true and if so has anybody else given up the dreaded drink?

thanks hobnob just adding some of the newbies

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD140
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD118
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD102
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD56
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD40
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD35
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD31
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD31
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD31
chancewouldbeafinething TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL? CD28
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28-30 CD27
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD27
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD26
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD24
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD23
fudgecat TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL30 C23
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD19
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD18
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD17
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD15
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD15
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD15
Pidgin TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL29-30 CD15
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD13
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD13
evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL ?? CD13
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD10
Capricorn76 TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL 24 CD10
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL 26-27 CD8
DrewsGirl TTC#1 cycle 10 UCL 25 CD7
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD4
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32 CD4
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL26-40 CD2
Hermia321 TTC#1 Cycle-1 UCL?? CD -8

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan

Sorry I forgot to update the stats! Hope I've done it right.

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD140
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD118
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD102
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD56
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD40
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD35
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD31
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD31
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD31
chancewouldbeafinething TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL? CD28
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28-30 CD27
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD27
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD26
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD24
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD23
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD19
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD18
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD17
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD15
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD15
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD15
Pidgin TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL29-30 CD15
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD13
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD13
evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL ?? CD13
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD10
Capricorn76 TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL 24 CD10
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL 26-27 CD8
DrewsGirl TTC#1 cycle 10 UCL 25 CD7
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD4
fudgecat TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD?
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL26-40 CD2

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan

Thanks Hermia321 Yep it is hell, thank goodness I have work to take my mind off it, last week when I was at home due to the snow it was driving me mental!

Bunnygirl80 I'm not going to get too excited, just looked back at last months entries in Fertility Friend and it appears I had sore boobs and cramps at this point last month, so maybe it'll be a BFN

DrewsGirl I wish it was my DH that wanted to test early, but I fear if it was we'd go through hundreds of tests, he so impatient!

Thanks for all your welcome messages

Pixie - My mum still babies me and wants to know how i am everyday! We told her we were TTC (it slipped out) and now every time i see her she asks me if we are still trying and if we have been practising! Its so embarrasing i say mum do you mean do i have sex?? She says yes but with no protection, im like yes thats how you conceieve, you should know this your 50!

Hobnob - I know what you mean about driving you mad with testing, when we started i was doing them and then i would think oh it might of been to early and did another one in a few days! Now i always want to wait just incase AF comes just a few days later but DH is the one trying to make me do them early as he hates not knowing.

Hobnob I just want to start chanting TEST TEST TEST at you. I don't do early testing myself as I don't see the point in driving myself crazy over whether a BFN is really a BFN. I'm quite happy to encourage it in others.

Whiteroses I've been and marked the new thread in I'm watching ready for getting my BFP!! It sounds like your body's telling you to get ready to start eating for two! I normally get mega hungry right before AF starts to the point where all I can think about is food and where/how to get my hands on it. No hunger pangs so far this month though!

Muser sorry AF got you . I hope you feel ready to come back here soon.

Welcome to the newbies - it's a nice thread, although hopefully you won't be staying long

I thought I would get AF today but so far nothing. No pre AF cramps, no nausea, no being starving all the time and no drop in temps. Usually get a bit of pinkish CM for a couple of days before and it's still completely clear. My boobs feel really uncomfortable as well - not sore but just not happy in a bra! Also have one really sore nipple - it feels like it does in the freezing cold, and it is most definitely not freezing here

Am starting to wonder if this is the month for me but am now too scared to test! Part of me doesn't want the disappointment of a BFN, I'd rather just get AF. But a large part of me is now terrified of getting a BFP - I feel like I do when I get on a roller coaster and they strap you in and I always want to shout I've changed my mind, I want to get off!!

That said I'll be gutted if AF does turn up!

I think I've just made myself sound completely mad so am going to go away and come back again when I'm feeling more sane!

Ooooo hobnob I really hope it's a BFP for you this month. I bet it's hell waiting around for the days to pass when you're trying not to wait for them to pass.

Also pixie I hope it's a BFP for you as well this month. Your Mum does sound sweet and it is nice that she does those little things for you. Sometimes it can be hard for Mums to let go of their daughters. I'm sure she'll come round to it when you tell her you're pg. I'm 26 and starting to get settled now. 27 is a very good age to TTC. In fact any age is good as long and you're good and ready.

Thank you for your kind welcome from all of you. This is a very exciting thread.

Also I am TTC#1 Cycle-1 UCL?? CD -9 (and counting!)