Just MC'd. Starting it all again.. Come and join me for the long haul, vol 2

Hi All,

Can I join you? Am/Was(!)a regular on the 40+ board. (Waves to TFLS!)

Have just posted this on mc board but then thought you ladies might be able to help me out here...

I've just been told I have an hcg level of 1200 one week after the mc and that "it's a bit high". If it doesn't come down they say i'll have to have an erpc. Am terrified of that... At the scan they gave me the same day they took the blood sample they said that they could see some clots, but were pretty satisfied it had all gone quite well.

Can anyone tell me what kind of levels they had? Am trying not to worry and have faith in my body. I'm bleeding very very little now, so i feel like "it's all over" but...

Thanks for any help

Hi all

Cheepz hols plan sounds amazing, and there's loads of stats on hols improving chance of conception so we will be crossing everything for you!

I know what you mean re the job thing. I was due June next year so hanging on in there and thinking of career change to s/t more flexible after mat leave. After mc,I am now thinking - what the f*, life is too short maybe a change now would take my mind off TTC? Change is as good as a rest and all that? Am also with you on the tempting fate thing, new job and whoops up the duff! (That's what happened with DS1, started my own business, month 1, pg!) Here's hoping.....

Zayja classic story re therapist, but sorry it wasn't a better experience. Got my first appointment today!!

TFLS re sperm quality - I read that the old wives tale re going blind from too much masturbation/sex was due to the loss of zinc in the sperm, hence decline in quality. This was saying many times a day would cause that not once (not sure where I would get the energy from for even one every 2 days mind...!). I also think if DP/DH has zinc rich diet + supplements then as much BD as poss surely wouldn't harm??

Louisesh - very impressed with that schedule - you are inspiring me when I get back to it;)

Have added myself to the list. Waiting for that first AF post mc.....feeling so impatient but still BFP, nausea, sore breasts, bloody body needs to sort itself out. Can't wait to add myself to the TTC list.

RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL 26-30 cycle 10 CD 41
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD23
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD22
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 7 CD22
CakeandFineWine TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 1 CD21
Jollster TTC#2 Cycle 2 UCL 26-33?! CD21
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 4 CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 5 CD20
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 7 CD15
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 2 CD13
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 3 CD13
boodleboot TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD8
Cheepz TTC#1 UCL 28 Cycle 4 CD1
Sunburnt TTC#2 UCL28 Cycle WTF CD?

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade
Fingerscrossedlegsopen

MIA (stopped at CD60)
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD60
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD60

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September
Chamois BFP 7th October
MrsRigby BFP 11th October

hi all

feeling much better now its CD2! i hate CD1 its just soooo right back to the start.

hols in 3 days - leave sat night to dubai and then transfer to next plane to cape town, and we are business class all the way (because we thought i would be big and fat and pregnant by now when we booked it!!) still at least it will be a treat and ds has own seat so we will have loads of space and he will love it.

2 weeks of sun and a second week of bd mania means we may come back with BIO. But I have decided I am going to apply for a new job at work as I need a change

Have been hanging in job for last 6 months because keep thinking will get pregnant and can't be bothered to move and don't want to move and then lumber new boss with preganacy and mat leave etc. But after last month have become too obsessed with trying to get pg because I am putting everything on hold until it happens.

I figure if i get a new job it will actually make me feel like would be better not to get pg right away so will not be so obsessed as will have new focus and want to do a good job of new job before getting 'knocked up'

it will of course invioke sods law and I will get pg straight away

boodle so good to have you back on board and so impressed with your emotional recovery - also share your optimistic stance on life so there with you lady.

tfls and zayja thanks for kind words and think you are both bonkers for letting anyone stick needles in you!!!

Hi all ZAYJA you re accunpuncturist sounds awful mine is lovely, really friendly we have a lovely chat while i m lying there with the needles in place!!!!

Managed to BD day 6,8,10,11,13 and all being well, tonight day 15.....Been hard work soo far when did sex become soo unspontaneous? Do n t hold out much hope though...Just accepting it won t happen....Just chasing up follow up appt for re-current miscarriage clinic it all grinds soo slowly.

Hi to all "new recruits" to the thread, wish you luck with it all.

oooo zayja your practitioner sounds like a real find ....
TFLS I read/heard/imagined that every other day is best for sperm quality unless you're bedding a 19 year old.... or maybe that's what I told myself as no way I could summon the inclination for every day ...

now think the spotting and cramping i have had is too much for implantation... as in over too many days , today is day 5. Wonder whether it's a prolonged early start to AF. Last month my cycle was extra long at 33 days, maybe this month is going to be extra short and even me back up to my average of 27ish. Who knows?? Will hold out to test until Sat which will be CD25... but maybe the wicked witch will make that unnecessary... boo...

oooh lots of EWCM today so will be dancing the baby-tango this evening.....feeling very optimistic (are you suprised!! ever the optimist....) So excited to be on a proper cycle with you guys again.....no more tippytoeing around....the capacity the mind and body has to heal from trauma is totally amazing and i really think the counselling has really helped me in so many ways.

really praying for some good news jollster - we are due a BFP and this thread could do with a lucky streak.....

still listening to my 'female fertility enhancer' meditation at bedtime on my ipod and it is really helping relax me and visualise creating a happy healthy baby home....only cost a tenner to down load and anything to help with the stress has to be good eh! i can email it over to any of you that want it if you provide the email address....share and share alike!!

Always hold out hope for the implantation bleed joll!

Welcome newbies, sorry for your recent experiences but glad that you found this thread, lots of good advice and support here. sun, isn't it strange that it happened when you were least expecting it?! Makes me think that it's true what they say about not stressing over it, but that's so hard and NOT really what I want to hear. Time feels of the essence. Will you still be starting Clomid in Jan.?

fingers, definitely leave the house a mess next time the folks come.

Cheepz, so sad AF caught up with you. It's a real heartbreaker when your own body and mind betray you on such an emotional matter! Good that your DH is being a dear.

TFLS, I don't think you're kidding yourself about getting pregnant. It might just take a little more work than it woulda 20 years ago. Hang in there, I think it'll happen for you.

As for me, acupuncture was a joke! My practitioner looked like Robert Downey Jr. with Kramer (from Seinfeld) hair and a bedside manner to match! I asked him what acupuncture would do for my fertility and he just replied "it's hard to explain" !!?? I was then left in a COLD room for 20 min., needles sticking out everywhere - totally uncomfortable. To top it off, I thought he'd tell me a little something about the balance of my qi, but...NOTHING. Just, "hope to see you next week." Fat chance .

Well, am currently in the 2ww and trying to be patient as well as not even start to get hopes up.

hi - sorry have been lurking but not posting much.

Sorry cheepz hope you are ok.

Am CD21 today and have had some spotting and low cramping over the last 3 days... am wondering (and hoping against all hope) if that might be implantation....

Will try and hold out until at least the weekend to POAS. Sort of don't want to build my hopes up.

Hello everyone - sorry I haven't posted in ages. Been away, and then didn't have internet for a while because of a stupid BT mistake (a long story!).
Not much happening here - had first 'normal' period last week, and am now telling DH we have to do a bit of BDing EVERY day for the next week or so. He seems quite pleased about that, but we've only managed it once so far!
How is everyone?? Welcome to the newbies on this thread.

updated list - kept self on same day as counting today as CD1

fingers not sure what cd you are on so feel free to repost and update

tfls thanks - it is wierd how much you can convince yourself based on symptoms and the like. dh was wonderful about it so am feeling much better today

busy at work with run up to hols

xx to all

Tuesday list:

RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL 26-30 cycle 10 CD 41
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD23
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD22
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 7 CD22
CakeandFineWine TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 1 CD21
Jollster TTC#2 Cycle 2 UCL 26-33?! CD21
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 4 CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 5 CD20
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 7 CD15
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 2 CD13
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 3 CD13
boodleboot TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD8
Cheepz TTC#1 UCL 28 Cycle 4 CD1
Sunburnt TTC#2 UCL28 Cycle WTF CD?

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA (stopped at CD60)
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD60
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD60

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September
Chamois BFP 7th October
MrsRigby BFP 11th October

Thanks for the welcome on board!

Cheepz thanks for adding me to the list. Sorry that AF arrived - hopefully next month will be yours- baby dust and Christmas magic?

Sunburn really sorry to hear about your situation and thinking about you. Good luck with the scan tomorrow - are you asking for a TV? could be that just too early to see much via normal one?

Cake I get that stabbing pain in the side when OV. If you are on heat it all sounds good ;)!!

Going to have a little rant I'm afraid. Although it's been a while I still hadn't told my Dad and SM re losing the baby - they knew it was threatened but tbh didn't get in touch. Eventually rang them yesterday, went like this:-

Dad "well it must have been for a reason" (no Sh*t Sherlock!)

SM " oh well, you're still young (am 39?!) and there's always next time. Also said, did you know men who do housework have low sperm count? (my DP is a devil with the hoover) - WHAT is that all about??? (now thinking will leave the place a tip when they next come around and have a great excuse!!!;) )

Got v upset - just felt like NIL sympathy and understanding.

Sorry, rant over. Going to call Docs to book in next scan to double check all "passed" as still feeling v odd + quite alot of pain. Was anyone else also v nauseous 2 weeks post mc?

Thanks! Good luck all, x

Evening all!!

Cheepz sorry about your AF!! But maybe next month keep your chin up chick
Boodle I echo Cheepz you are def the thread rock!
Fingers HELLO welcome to the thread!
Sunburnt I thought a sac didn't show any "signs" til 5-6 weeks but I might be wrong and don't know how far you are but big hugs xx

Mondays's list:

RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL 26-30 cycle 10 CD 40
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD22?
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD21
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 7 CD21
CakeandFineWine TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 1 CD20?
Jollster TTC#2 Cycle 2 UCL 26-33?! CD20
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 4 CD20
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 5 CD19
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 7 CD14
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 2 CD12
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 3 CD12
boodleboot TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD7
Cheepz TTC#1 UCL 28 Cycle 4 CD1
Sunburnt TTC#2 UCL28 Cycle 1 CD WTF

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA (stopped at CD60)
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD60
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD60

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September
Chamois BFP 7th October
MrsRigby BFP 11th October

I hope this is right apologies if I've ballsed up.

Well all odd in this camp had a really uncomfortable pain in my lower left side today someone at work said OV nt so sure as really sore for a couple of hrs but have felt like a dog on heat so maybe
Well I'll wait another week and POAS as I have no idea whats going on

Good luck ladies and keep your chins up if its not your month positive thoughts it WILL happen. I'm off to watch I'm a Celeb x

boodle you are doing a stellar job of being super supporter today. thanks

i have finished sulking, am going to go back to being super cautious from now on!!

welcome fingers glad you found us and like our little thread I was planning to do a list tomorrow when I send myself back to the bottom so will add you then

sounds like you are in a far worse place than me sunburnt we feel your pain and know just how you feel - hope we can give you some tlc

boodle, i had stopped charting in August because i was due to start clomid in Jan.

I viewed it as breathing space, no need to chart, no need to put on the calender any dates any more, til January.

It was an unexpected complete and utter surprise after 3 years of charting, timing bding and doing the deed every other day for 2 weeks of cycle...just to make sure!!
We just did the deed once, cant even remember when!
And bfp after feeling "funny".

No period in October, but defo a period in Septemebr, cant remember when.
So unlike all previous mc's, i have no idea of dates.

But scan says i have a 1cm empty sac. Going back on Wednesday to see if anything has developed in it.

Not holding out any hope at all.

ahhh bugger....so sorry - whats your dates and times of LMP etc for this PG sunburnt?

it does make sence boodle thankyou.

I am just clutching at straws hoping against hope that the last scan was empy becuase it was just too soon to show any thing.

I think that i am going to hold out for a bit more time this time.
Always just wanted the whole thing "over and done with" so opted for tabs & pessaries, but this time, i am going to hang on for another few weeks.
I have another scan on Wed, see what that shows. I had some brown discharge and cramps last night, but now normal discharge, and no cramps. Very sore boobs, feel very very tired and tearful today.
Havent had any more bloods as it is just slow torture tbh.
I know in my heart that this will lead to another mc. I can never muster any positive thoughts around pregnancy and me, nevr, they just dont come.
I cant even be bothered to be sad, but just occasionally, i need to cry.

I am a good person., we are good people, we just dont understand why this keeps happening to us.

fingers - please join us, always room for more ladies willing to reveal all the intimate aspects of their journey to TTC....sorry you have found us tho IYSWIM

sunburnt - as i understand it you have at the very least a 12day luteal phase as it takes 12 days to implant...so you would be maximum 17 days since conception.... but you could have up to a 16 day luteal phase (as i do) which would only make it 11 days since concpetion....hope that helps

sending to you bigmutha - if it were me i wouldn't go the test route....it all takes time and i am waaaaaay to impatient for all that. We will all support you if you want to just get straight back on the horse (so to speak....not calling your husband a horse )

Now then lovely ladies, I wonder whether there is room for another post mc waiting TTC?

I just love this thread and it would be great to join the journey?

I have just had 1st mc at 8 weeks a couple of weeks ago, got DS and DSS so feel very lucky but would so much like a little sibling for the boys.

Am now on the road to WTF but still testing BFP post mc (very cruel isn't it the continuation of the symptoms?) so thinking may be some considerable time..... isn't the waiting agony? Hormones all over the place..

Good luck to you all! ( my stats - TTC#2UCL28WTF (I think that's right!!)

can i ask a daft question please???

if you get a bfp on the very day that your af is due, how many weeks are you aprox? Not by LMP or any of that stuff, how many weeks aprox since conception if you have a cycle of 29 days?

I cannot work out how far gone i am and its driving me mad.
Any one know?

Well been to doctor and he seems to think maybe had a chemical pregnancy,left a sample with nurse on friday affternoon which showed possitive, but sample they took today was negative.Now left with a difficult choice as if i go down the test route have to wait for the process which can take quite a few months,or do i just put it down to nature apparently quite common to suffer a very early MC.So now thinking i could take addvantage of the so said extra period of fertility after MC,i just wish i had never poas in the first place and would of been none the wiser.I know it is a decision that i need to make just wish there was a easy answer,i just feel differnt this time my last 2 MC were awlful felt a massive sense of lost.