Just MC'd. Starting it all again.. Come and join me for the long haul, vol 2

hi all, started us a new thread so we dont lose anyone!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/894354-Just-MC-39-d-Come-and-join-us-for-the?rnd =1263505733441

Hi all and thanks for all comiserations its all abit pants

I don't know about chem pregnancy - I would have been 4 + 4, last mc was at 5 + 3, so both really very early - I don't know how early is classed as CP.

To be honest I had been through so many cycles I was beginning to freak out that I couldn't get pregnant for some reason - especially once we were using the monitor and I knew we were hitting the right dates.

At least this allows me to focus on what I need to do to make my body a temple, its not about fertility (although it might be about quality!) but about making sure the bean can stick.

This last cycle with Christmas we were quite passive and I drank alcohol and caffeine, there were the 10 days of antihistamines when we were staying at my folks with the cat, so many things which advice says you should avoid. Mentally I was thinking - well I never get pregnant anyway so whats the point -

This has confirmed for me that I can do it, the monitor is hitting the right dates, the boys can swim, I just need to be more careful about taking the vitamins and dropping the lattes and giving a bean a chance.

I have been reading up and mc's not classed as recurrent until you have had 3 in a row, so lets hope its srd time lucky for me. Bring on the post mc fertility boost, at least the monitor will tell me when it is!

SL8 BFNs are rubbish and especially in the early cycles, thoughts to you

boodles, jollster, meita what gives with your beans - want dates and stats!

leewt wracking brain about mid cycle cramps and can't think. Unless it was something completely unrelated.

think i have earned a night with my feet up in front of telly, will pop back later to see whos about. love to all.

Cheepz I'm so sorry

Not been posting much at all and don't really know why as I'm here every day with you, but thanks for remembering me.

Caved in this morning, cd27 and got bfn and feel very down now. It may still be too early but I had a clear positive at cd27 last time. I won't test tomorrow as a neg at cd27 I can still stupidly convince myself it's too early, but cd28 and I know there's no hope.

sam sorry to hear af got you, I really wanted it to be good news especially with all your symptoms.

I have none.

I will try and post more in the next couple of days but just want to say I am still here. Love to all xxx

Oh meant to ask do u think you ve had a CP? i had 1 in Dec, CHEEPZ i tested positive at cd 24 by cd 31 i was bleeding heavily and my tests were negative 4 days after the bleeding started....

Your story sounded very similar.....

Forgot to say HI to newcomers....

Poor you CHEEPZ take care xxx

Hi to everyone else x

cheepz I'm truly sorry .

Oh cheepz. Gutted for you.

cheepz my honey so sorry.. and maybe a blessing in disguise that you left it late to test as you mght have had time to get excited. its bad enough without that.. hopefully the post-mc fertility boost will help!

boodle i remember the nerves from the last pregnancy and i know its awful. but remember THIS bean is a new bean and needs a lovely calm relaxed mommy!

can i get some advice guys? i normally have 32 day cycle meaning i would ov on day 18. last months cycle was shorter - 30 days. This cycle is obviously going to be a 32 day as today is cd31 and i have awful cramps.. i did a test on monday and last night and they were bfns. so my question is, why did i have awful cramps on cd23? they couldnt have been ov and it wasnt implantation.. so what was it?

tfls hope you feel better..

zayja sorry to hear af got you.. its so upsetting when you get your hopes up..

meita midwife appointment soon?

hi to anyone i left out!

xxx

oh it's all a bit sad... so sorry Cheepz, but you are absolutely right to focus on the positive of getting pregnant.. if so sadly not a sticky this time. Hope you are getting lots of RL tlc. (And your story about your cherub asking to cuddle in your house made me well up - what a warm fluffy moment).

TFLS sorry you've been under the weather... but what weather to be under huh?

boodle, I hear you. I hear you!

Hi everyone else x

Oh cheepz, my lovely girl. What an absolute bitch life can be. You're sounding remarkably together all things considered, so hope you are bearing up okay. xx

so how shit is this

i am sitting here looking at a Clearblue BFP, finally, after waiting 5 cycles, and bleeding like some kind of horror movie, its faint, buts its there.

off to see doctor tomorrow to discuss whether i need to do anything or just keep trying.

am now going to drink no coffee at all (am caffeine junkie) take pregnacare conception like a religion and go with the monitor on every peak day, hope it won't take 5 more cycles to happen again.

tfls sorry to hear you too are having a pants time

boodle you hang in there, can only imagine the worry but try and be positive, I can't help feeling sure you have gone through the worst, look after yourself as number 1 priority, every day that goes by the chances of everything being ok increase so much so hang in there. Your levels are soo high.

of course going to try straight away, and going to use the monitor straight away too - might tell me when am ovulating in wtf cycle - have restarted my counter - hence new list - feel better about not being on cycle 6! little things ....

Thursday's list:

LeeWT TTC#2 UCL 30-32 cycle -2 CD31
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 9 CD30
sarahlou8 TTC#3 UCL27 cycle 1 CD27
TFLS TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 6 CD25
Zayja TTC#1 UCL24-27 cycle 9 CD25
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD25
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 7 CD21
SarahMumtoAlex ttc no 2, UCL 28 Cycle 4, CD 20
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 1 CD19
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 25 CD16
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL27 cycle 2 CD13
RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 13 CD12
sunburntats TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 1 CD10
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL 27 cycle 2 CD6
Tetleytea TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD5
effilump TTC#5 UCL28 cycle 1 CD3
samanthab123 TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD2
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL28 cycle WTF#2 CD1
PoppyisaPain TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD?
hopefully TTC? UCL? cycle WTF CD?
keevamum TTC#3 UCL? cycle? CD?
lulabell79 TTC#? UCL? cycle? CD?

WTTC
Justbeenforapromenade
Fingerscrossedlegsopen

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Hoops997
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009 - TWINS
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
Jollster BFP 10th January 2010

aw cheepzy.....that is a total gutter. so sorry for you hun. stay away from tampons.....get it all 'out' so to speak. Next month hun, next month.....

still no idea about how many are in there but am having more bloods tomorr....would hope that should get a level around 6000 if still doubling as should be.....no idea what my progesterone level will be but am hoping for over 15 as apparently EP's rarely make it over 15....wont be conclusive but will make me feel reassured...

i have had a bit of a negative day today and am convinced all is going to go wrong.....will try and cheer up a bit.....its so BLOODY stressful being pregnant........sorry to all the ladys with AF happening, i don't mean to sound ungrateful, i really am sooo grateful but it is so very far away from having a baby where i am right now....dreading another EP....

I am definitely having another mc, tmi warning volume, consistency, colour, texture and number of clots are all exactly like last time and way more than normal, am getting through pads at a rate and don't dare use tampos

gutted as i am, am relieved i managed to get pregnant again as was beginning to wonder if I could, but still - heartbreak city

will go to doctor to confirm and discuss what implications are ...

love to all - thanks for being here - don't know how i would cope without you

for all the dashed hope and disappointment going on here.

In a way I suppose I can count myself lucky to have missed out on all that (the hope and disappointment cycle). Since my MC, first the WTF cycle confused me and we missed the "window", so never got hopes up. Then the next two cycles were very probably anovulatory, so although we BD'ed every other or third day, from start to end, I never got to the position of wondering - am I, aren't I? expect wrt ovulating. Having exhausted ourselves a bit with all that pointless (in hindsight) BDing, we had much less sex - about once in five days - and promtly I ovulated, and although FF rated our chances as low, well, here we are. Maybe there is something to the theory that being relaxed makes for better chances?

Thinking of all of you, and hoping that next time the hope will manifest itself into a bean.

viv yes I think 2-7pm is probably the right window for OPKs. Though CB OPKs say it doesn't matter at what time of the day you do them. I suppose if your LH surge is strong and long, it really doesn't matter, but if it is weaker and shorter, you might miss it if you test at the wrong time of the day. I had cheepie e-bay OPKs, 50 of them for £12 plus 15 free HPTs, so for a while I did two per day. But it was pointless because the cycles I used them on both turned out to be anovulatory. Stopped using them, and ovulated. So can't say if they would have shown positive or at what time of the day.
Hope you get a smiley soon.

Jollster it was seriously not fun, and I suspect the drive back on Mon will be worse . But I now feel fully justified in never coming again because it's too far (as I told him it would be when he first mentioned moving her. Daft man. He got all upset because I'm prepared to drive to my mother, who lives 2 hours away).

I had DS in bed with me for an hour this morning in an attempt to get more sleep (with mixed results. He slept, I didn't, because he kept wriggling to the edge), it's so nice having a cuddle sometimes! Could never have coped with co-sleeping, but it's nice sharing a bed occasionally.

Cheepz sorry to hear the bad news, how rubbish for you . Guess you're right about having the partial warning of BFN though.

Viv she sounds like a real charmer!

Effilump - That's reminded me of when I was in hospital having a D&C after my mmc, and they kept me in overnight as I came out of surgery with a raging temperature.

The next morning, I was waiting to be discharged when a girl of 16 was admitted onto the ward as she was having a miscarriage. She was a right mouthy so and so, shouting at the nurses left, right and centre - screaming and swearing at them when they tried to give her pain relief, saying how she couldn't swallow tablets, but then refused to have an injection because she was terrified of needles.

At first I felt sorry for her as she was clearly young and terrified of what was happening to her, but her behaviour was so utterly obnoxious that it really got to me. There were four other women (including me) on the ward who all were going through exactly the same thing, and yet we had to sit there and listen to her screech and eff and jeff at anyone who dared look at her.

I would have said something, were it not for the fact that I thought she, or her nan (who was with her at the time) might lamp me.

That is so sweet.

thats awful

My DS crawled into bed this morning with me and DH and said 'Mummy, am cold, can I come and cuddle in your house' - 'my house' to him is the gap between my thighs, tummy and chin when curled up in bed, he squeezes himself in and then says 'i love it in your house mummy' - darling boy

Hello everyone, sorry to cheepz. Why is it that chain smoking, lambrini drinking, benefit grabbing wastes of space can fall pregnant at the drop of a hat, over and over again, and have their babies no problem, but for others its so hard! Life's so unfair at times. I was on the bus a few weeks ago, when a bunch of young mums got on, one of them commented that the other ones baby had got really big, I know she replied, he's a right little shit! How nice!

welcome sarah.. totally know where you're coming from. Swing wildly from desperately wanting a sibling for DS (maybe 2... who AM I kidding..), to thinking I must cherish him and if it's just him, then that's like a lottery win anyway (except at 3am some mornings recently...). Good luck, you're in a good place here.

cheepz, sorry x

hopefully, 6 hours ...? You're a much braver woman than me!

hi to everyone else.

Gave over - fat lady singing - although very wierd as just got up in night and lets just say was good job I had a liner in - normally AF is spotting for 24 hours then flow, but maybe just because its late, its heavy - although by calculations still not that late - CD32 this cycle would be CD31 any other and since my cycles seem to go one long one short that is in keeping - monitor is good like that.

However and about to do way tmi here heavy clots and bleeding is much more like when had mc than af so it maybe that I was pgh and it was implantation bleed ast week - will know as if AF as normal will subside from heavy bleeding in 2 days whereas mc lasted much longer. Probably AF later than normal so AF heavier than normal.

Either way I am at least parachuting to the bottom thanks to testing yesterday as otherwise might be falling like a rock with disappointment this morning - so thanks for the peer pressure its made it much easier today.

Am trying to see upside - that being that if I had been pg then would be totally freaking out about how unhealthy I was over Christmas and the impact that might have! And at least have not had to wait too long after BFN to get AF and start again - new year, new start. On to cycle 6!

SarahMTA sorry to find you here but welcome all the same, know what you mean about worrying about obsessing but have found this is a great outlet.

zayja big hugs lovely.

leewt any news? and hows your nan.

barrenb you there?

sarahlou8 ?

Oh - have deleted MIA as its been ages

Thursday's list:

LeeWT TTC#2 UCL 30-32 cycle -2 CD31
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 9 CD30
sarahlou8 TTC#3 UCL27 cycle 1 CD27
TFLS TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 6 CD25
Zayja TTC#1 UCL24-27 cycle 9 CD25
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD25
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 7 CD21
SarahMumtoAlex ttc no 2, UCL 28 Cycle 4, CD 20
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 1 CD19
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 25 CD16
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL27 cycle 2 CD13
RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 13 CD12
sunburntats TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 1 CD10
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL 27 cycle 2 CD6
Tetleytea TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD5
effilump TTC#5 UCL28 cycle 1 CD3
samanthab123 TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD2
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 6 CD1
PoppyisaPain TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD?
hopefully TTC? UCL? cycle WTF CD?
keevamum TTC#3 UCL? cycle? CD?
lulabell79 TTC#? UCL? cycle? CD?

WTTC
Justbeenforapromenade
Fingerscrossedlegsopen

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Hoops997
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009 - TWINS
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
Jollster BFP 10th January 2010

Hi, and welcome to SarahMumtoAlex! Will do list in a moment and add you.

Drove to my dad's yesterday, 6 hours with the amazing car-hating baby. What joy. But he did at least sleep a little bit last night, so am not too dead.

Can someone explain the CB fertility thingies to me? Am faintly tempted to try them as the last couple of months I feel like I've had AF too soon after OV, so might be interesting to keep some kind of eye on it so I can go to doc if it looks like I've got some prob with my luteal phase (is that the 2ww bit? I can never remember).

Sorry for your BFN Cheepz, keeping fingers crossed for testing again, but can well imagine how difficult it is to keep the raging emotions/imagination in check.

Am somewhat relieved to already be on day 6 since bleeding started (although who knows what my cycle will do this month). Don't feel like it's been that long. If I do OV at normal time then it means I'm only a week and a bit away from it.

Sorry Cheepz and Zayja - this is shit isn't it?
I even dreamt about periods last night, probably because I spent about an hour on the MN ovulation calculator and on the one I have on the period tracker, trying to work out if we really had sex at the right time this month. AF due from today. Pah!
Welcome Sarah!
Hugs to all.

Hello sarahmumtoalex

Sorry that you've had to find yourself here but welcome all the same. It's not that much of a madhouse. Honest. xx