Mid 30's TTC - you're my BESH mate you are..... <hic hic>

I have a prescription for all you ladies wanting to ovulate - watch the Eden channel this weekend, it's animal babies weekend and I have been aaahing and baby tigers and polar bears. I swear they would make the beshest of us melt!

Hello peeps. Heading back to London from fabby wedding. Have spent slightly too long in company of gorgeous baby and therefore had stampy feet petulant tantrum of the I WANT NOW! GET! variety. Slightly disconcerting, but will put it down to boozes rather than impending madness... Hope your bank hols are lovely.

morning ladies. Have had a lovely weekend in my home town - managed to stick to just two glasses of wine, with little suspicion, but let best mate into secret that I had come off the pill. Met her new 4 week old baby (#3) who was very sweet. Husband a little annoyed I told someone, but I didn't tell her we were actively trying, just that I was off the pill now.

Cheers scorp

Hope you got some last night! Wombular pains sound postive to me - unless you've since had said massive poo and they've gone...

Off to spend time with loads of in-laws.

PS Poor Curly's Mum

We SWI every 2 days and aim for every day over Ov time. Except every time, it's been on a Thurs/Fri and TYF is always dropping with exhaustion at the end of a hectic week. Can't get him to see that my ovulation won't hang about whilst he gets a big lie and then is ready for a steamy weekend... He wouldn't do it last night (to be fair, he was reeling and woozy with fatigue), even though OPK tests said I was positive for OV for the 2nd day in a row (still hoping ski's info about opk tests possibly flagging updiff is what's happened here).

I have a lot of cuddly toys in my parents' loft too - and I don't mean from my childhood My arsehole Ex always used to buy me cuddly toys: I knew it was his weird way of stringing me along further with his 'not yet' LIES about having kids, by giving me these child substitutes (he also was really into them, strangely enough for a man) but I, erm, still liked them. Whereas TYF thinks cuddly toys are stupid but wants a child with me - thank god I got Mr Right after all these yrs! Although he is, luckily, rather fond of my Snowy (of TinTin fame) memorabilia: bonus!

Loonpot update: am getting wombular 'pangs' across the whole womb area. This is exciting me a bit, as, as I've said before, I only ever get period pains, mittelschmerz and so on on the left. Have never had sensations on the right, so to get them across whole pelvic area is freaky (in a good way). Of course, it's probably my lower intestine and I just need a massive poo, but a girl can 2WOOFL, can't she?

sorry about that. a little calmer now I've been for walk with dog and SFF and got the pizza ordered.

Hope you're feeling better now extreme

Now, where's the cyber gin? Closest I'm going to get with (in theory) the 2WOOFL starting around now...

aaaaarrrrhhhh some people! Fucking bastards. Sorry, I have to vent. Just off the phone my poor mum has been having a horrific week, mainly at the hands of a psycho bitch, and that's just one of the "bad things happen in threes" things. Can't share details but I'm sooooo angry at what has been done to my poor mother, she's so upset and I'm alone with the dog and the internet. It's a good job I'm not violent in RL and also that I live hundreds of miles away.

vent aside. I've read that you should shag every two days and once at ov for good luck. we've been doing it every day we've been able to. Stuff the rules, I want a baby!!!!

We SWI daily from CD6 to around CD 16 (I ovulate around CD12) to try and make sure I'm a walking spunk bucket. My worry is that at our advanced age our crinkly little eggs probably only last 45 minutes as opposed to 12 hours.

Sorry to change the subject back to ttc, but one thing I forgot to say was that my doc the other day said that the current advice from fertility experts is not to try to time sex with ovulation as it's so easy to miss it, but just to keep having sex 3 times a week as you're more likely to catch ovulation that way.

I collect soft toys (well used to, haven't had any new ones in years) and they currently occupy a vast amount of loft space at parents house. I fear they will be extradited when any nursery preparations begin. And, yes, I do refer to myself as the dog's mummy, and kiss her, and sniff her head (LOVE that smell). I suppose there's definitely some sort of transferred, or whatever they call it, emotions going on, seeing as I have as many FB pics of the dog as other people have of their babies...

Now piss off if you think that's woosy, or I'll set the terrifying hard stupid mutt on you...

Oh dear, soft toy confessions. Um I have a piglet on my chest of drawers, a monkey on my headboard and a teddy bear pilot (from a do in aid of Yorkshire Air Ambulance) on my landing windowsill. Oh and I spend far far far too much time referring to my cats as my babies and me and TGO as mummy and daddy.

Soppy, me? Fuck off. bitchslaps everyone with sov encrusted fingers.

Have just realised that I have 3 cuddly toys in front of me in the living room . But they are purely decorative, in a groovy vintage, retro way.... oh, who am I kidding?!

I don't dust (TYF's job) so no kissing... then.

I see it's not taken us (well, me and extreme at least) long to admit we're teddy-smooching depressive-prone loons. Do you also sob at adverts, extreme? I have to turn over screeching 'noooo!' when that current Cancer Research one comes on!

Ponymum - nah, I'm not that type of soppy, I'm just very tactile and hate to see anyone the slightest bit upset. I really have turned into my mum

My reason for feeling bummed today (which I know is not on the same scale) is that the post did not bring the book I ordered about fertility. Then I realised that the earliest it will now arrive is Tuesday because of the Bank Holiday. I am not at all clued up about the inner workings of ttc and was hoping that if I read this book I might begin to understand the 50% of the conversation on this thread which is currently gobledegook to me.

But I did get the cheapie ovulation and pg tests which I also ordered from the internet. Can't believe how cheap they are compared to the supermarket! Do they work? Brand is Home Health. AF is 'due'() mid next week, so maybe I'll try one on Wednesday if it hasn't arrived by then - or are there rules here about what day you can do that?

scorpette so are you really a cuddly wuddly huggly wuggly type? Is your bed covered in soft toys with hearts embroidered on their tummies saying 'Cuddle Me', etc?

Oh, who am I kidding? I'm the soppiest twat around. I get upset for cuddly toys if I see them squashed together on a shop shelf!

Ski, am also glad am not the only nutter. My heart goes out to those who suffer MCs - I genuinely think I would need sectioning if it happened to me . It's not so much that I am/get suicidal, just that I don't want to be alive if can't be a mum and can't see the point of it, either. I'd become a bitter, damaged recluse who does fuck-all with her life and just overeats all day (erm, so just like my Aunt who couldn't have kids). I'm super well-balanced and positive, me.

Oooos, there's others around now. Me? Hug someone? Fuck off!

re: suicide - when I started bleeding and had the mc - I ran out of the office and drove home contemplating suicide. Glad I'm not the only nutter here Scorps.

extreme I know I've only just joined and don't know you very well but I just wanted lend some support and offer my listening ear if you need it. Don't worry about the ME ME ME stuff - we all need to do that sometimes. I have been through depression, spent years helping my sister when she was going through suicidal depression and self image issues following rape and pregnancy, and have been through a lot of crap myself over the last two years which I won't bore you with. As a result I have a lot of time for others in times of despair!

One thing I would say is, I have heard of several situations recently where agencies have been crap over making promises about when candidates will hear back about a job - even after having multiple intensive interviews over weeks and weeks. It is a horrible thing to do when people think 'at least by X day I will know one way or the other' then they don't even give you the courtesy of letting you know they haven't made a decision yet! So all I can say is, good luck, you are still in the running, and you're not alone!

Quick, lemme give you a proper hug whilst there's no-one else around to bitchslap us for being soppy bints!

Poor you. If you were already feeling down, it would've seemed like she was being a bit thoughtless (she can be forgiven, seeing as has just had baby) - 'Here's a baby - which you haven't got - and you probably won't get a job either!'. Neither was meant like that, of course, but some things just send you over the edge, don't they? But you should bear in mind that TTC and trying to get a job at the same time are really incompatible so by the laws of BESHdom, this clearly means both will happen. Hopefully.

I've been freaking out for over a week now - convinced self was pg, then that I'm not and never will be (wailing melodramatically about suicide like a proper psycho, etc.), now have had OPK test say I'm OVing 2 days running, and am confused as to whether I really have OVed or might already be pg and the test is flagging that, but when I should've been Oving last week, the OPK showed negative, but I was doing them with my first wee of the day, which you're not meant to do, so did I get a false negative and I DID ov then and am pg, but if I didn't and am OVing/have just OVed, will I get pg? ARRRRRRRRGH!

And they say women are the weaker sex? Try seeing how a man would cope with 2WOOFL!

If I was you, I'd now be convincing myself I am updiffed, with a little girl I should call Niamh. Are you already doing this? Or are you less insane than me (hardly a push)?

It would be fab if you had updiffed without trying, but annoying in a strange way that all effort has been for naught, wouldn't it? Hope you have, anyway And as for the report - BUMMER