Anyone out there who's recently MCd and back to TTC without waiting?

hi apples - feel for you, patience not one of my virtues either and you just feel you need to be trying at least to feel like you are making progress, when you can't even start trying yet its the pits - especially since that seems to be when you want to try the most

lets hope its soon

hi apples! that must be so frustrating for you. i guess all you can do is give it time, easier said than done though! hopefully it won't be too much longer for you x

Hi everyone, recognise a few names!

I am 13 days post EPRC and still have preg hormones, peed on stick yesterday and STILL a pos line. I was nine weeks.

Seems like it is taking forever to be over.. so I can try again.

thefatladyscreams - Excellent! I had just put the chocolate brazils away, but if they're going to make me younger... Fertility Friend is ace, though the forecasted start of period symbol freaks me out a bit.

cheepz wrap dress sounds like an excellent plan. Glad you had fun.

monkeysmaketheworldgoround - glad to hear it went well, sounds like a great day. Hope you enjoyed your evening.

Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend.

retail therapy is definitely my favourite therapy and i like the thinking behind the wrap dress!

well we had dd's party today and 5 minutyes before evryone was due it started raining ! mad dash bringing stuff back in and getting drawing stuff etc set up in living room. had 8 toddlers and about 14 adults so got quite cosy! luckily dried off after an hour so they could go out and play and some ate inside, some in the garden so in the end worked out well. two of our friend sstayed after to help tidy and have a chat which was good then my sister came over with her family for a bbq so anothe rmini party. dd kept going all day without a nap and i'm so proud at the way she shared all her toys etc. very unusual for her! the amount of cake, biscuits, sweets etc that she ate is just shocking though

she's now fast asleep in bed. dh has gone off to do a 16 hour shift at work. he'll be knackered tomorrow but need the extra money if we're ttc. my plan is to put my feet up, wtach rubbish tv then have long bubbly bath before curling up in bed with a book.

woke up about 2 this morning to find dd cuddled in beside me. no idea how long she'd been there! kicked dh out to her bed so we could have more room!!

anyway hope you're all having good weekend. have nice relaxing evenings xx

just doing my accounts

still its my birthday next week and i needed the boost!!

Thanks twilight for the encouraging story.

cheepz - hope your credit card is OK . Seriously, glad you had a good time. It is such a relief when the bleeding stops. I've just started using the FertilityFriend website to chart my temp etc to try and guess when I next ovulate, especially given my whole cycle is out now. It's my new obsession!

Love the planning re the wrap dress - you are right, it could all start to happen for us in the next few weeks

Stopped bleeding yesterday - seems like finally but actually just like normal AF in duration so shouldn't complain

Sounds like everyones holding their own - am interested in the protein point - glad i had that great big steak on thursday night and a full english yesterday morning! not so keen on brazil nuts though!

helpet totally what the rest of the gang say - no worries about having a moan, christ if you can't here where can you and like tfls so few people in my RL know about the mc that if it weren't for forums like this and people like you I would go quietly bonkers on my own. good news about the bd sucess, its so difficult to get into the right mindset to just do it for fun as oppose to achieve a result, but really important

twilight thanks for posting am finding it particularly motivating that something could be on the move in as little as 2 weeks for me, gives me optimism

Bought some lovely clothes in Bath, although some may not fit for long, with luck, bought dress for a wedding in september but made sure it was a wrap dress with some give just in case such an eternal optimist

Missed the reassurance of being able to log on and find you ladies though..

Helpet, I MCed in OCT07 @ 10 weeks & 2 weeks later conceived what is now my soon to be 1 year old dd. There's no harm in getting back to ttc immediately. Best of luck to you.

Thanks bestlaid - just had a quick google and apparently selenium is also meant to be anti-aging.

So you can get younger munching on your chocolate brazils

monkeys - hope all the party preparations went well and you all have a fab time tomorrow.

LadyHelen2 - thanks, all these positive stories are really lovely.

helpet - So glad to hear it went well. Excellent point about the chocolate covered brazils - doubly healthy (probably not in the quantities I'm likely to eat them sadly...)

thefatladyscreams - After a quick trawl through PubMed to check I wasn't talking nonsense, it's both of you ideally. Promotes healthy sperm production and it's thought it may help prevent some types of miscarriage by reducing DNA damage and chromosomal breakage. Also apparently "key in counterracting certain viral infections" which can only be a good thing at the moment! It's in lots of supplements though if you don't fancy brazil nuts.

Loads to catch up on.

cith - enjoy that vino while you can! Hopefully it won't be long before we all have to be tee total!!

helpet - glad last night went well. But please don't ever worry about offloading here. Surely that is what we are all doing in some way or other? I've not told anyone in RL about the m/c or TTC yet it's such a relief to talk here where we're all going through the same mix of emotions. I share your fear that I'll be devastated if I don't conceive straight away - which seems really strange as I was very laid back when we were TTC before (to the point it only dawned on me belatedly when AF was late that maybe I should get a pregnancy test - ohh for those days of innocence!). I guess we will just have to deal with that, if and when....

Thanks for the tip re protein - luckily I like eggs! My acupuncturist said the same thing re eating regularly being important.

bestlaid - please tell me the brazil nuts are recommended for DH rather than me as I hate them! I could suck off a chocolate coating if that helps??

monkeys - glad your day back on site went OK. Must have been draining but carthartic like you said. Good luck with dd's party - here's hoping for sunshine chezmonkey this weekend.

LadyHelen2 - thanks for the positive story.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Hello ladies. Just being nosy and popped in as the thread title rang lots of bells for me. Just wanted to add my experience.

I've had 5 mcs. With 4 of them, I conceieved quickly after the mc, but with 2 I had a d&c and went on to carry to full term ( now have 2 DSs, one is only 12 weeks old and SO worth the wait and difficult 2 years we waited for him). I have no idea whether the d&c made the difference but it is strange that my only successful pgs followed one.

I can also recommend reflexology. I had this to TTC and also to get over the mc and I have no doubt that after the mcs, it got my cycles back quickly.

Mc is such a horrible experience and I remember the feeling well that it was never going to happen and it completely taking over my every waking thought. But ladies, you will get there! 7 pgs here and 2 beautiful boys to show for them.

Best of luck to you all!
xx

brazil nut omelette for lunch it is then! made sure i had a proper breakfast this morning which isn't something i always do but shall try from now on!

had a strange day yesterday. work on site two days a week and the rest from home so it meant i got to catch up with a couple of poeple and tell them waht had happened. one of them was one of my bosses. he knew about the mc but hadn't spoken to him since. he was amazing and very sensitive and also engineered it so that i could have a proper chat with my friend in private so i could get all teary without worrying! she was fab too but it was difficult because she lost her baby at 21 weeks. so it was all emotional but cathartic.

hope you had a good evening helpet with no mention of babies! my plan for today is to buy last minute bits for dd's party tomorrow then thoroughly deep clean the house, declutter and build an extension so if it rains there'll be room for everyone inside!

You are not at all boring, the point of threads like these is that you can off-load because everyone else is usually thinking something very similar. Best of luck for this evening.

The thing about the protein's interesting. Suddenly dinner of veg and couscous not seeming quite so virtuous!Thank goodness I had that ice cream for pudding

Now pondering some kind of tofu, cheese and egg concoction for tomorrow!

Brazil nuts also v good apparently, because of high selenium levels.

Cith wise words indeed. Friend of mine yesterday rather tactlessly said 'well at 5 weeks its not really a baby is it' - i know she was nto tyring to be mean - in fact i think she was trying to help, and in truth before it happened to me it might have been the sort of thing i would say, because until its happened to you you can't understand the emotional impact - its taken me by surprise how upsettnig it was despite early stage. its losing the idea of the baby that hurts, because you have know you are pregnant you have a due date, you have imagined the baby, you have started thinking about the pregnancy, os you already have an attachment and the maternal instinct has kciked in.

anyway - off for the next couple of days (with laptop so may drop in) take care ladies

hello all,

Have just re-read my message from this morning...lots of typos - please read 'kind' messages! Was obviously running very late for my meeting! RE BPN - I was fairly sure I wasn't pregnant - have been feeling so well, full of energy and not bloated since the preg hormone has obviously said caio to my system...ironic isn't it - would welcome some morning sickness and tender boobs right now if it meant something exciting like a BFP
monkey - I'm sorry that you have felt upset with your friend -it doesn't help things. I have to agree that it is interesting how certain people/friends react and those who actually become particularly supportive are sometimes the ones you least expect. One of my close friends for whom I have often been an 'agony aunt' after various fights or break ups with boyfs, I was supposed to have a 'cuppa' with on the weekend that I ended up miscarrying. As the bleeding was so heavy and I couldn't stray to far from the bathroom I rang her and ended up telling her over the phone that I had been pregnant and was miscarrying. She said at least I knew I could get pregnant and maybe we should postpone catching up! I have to say I was a little taken-aback! And other work-friends who I don't have as much 'history' with, have been amazing, rescheduled or taken on things for me and dropped everything to come and visit me at home. Like you - a friend who had a MMC last year while TTC with IVF, has been the most amazing source of comfort and information. She is in her 9th month now and due to give birth any day - this is also a great comfort! Don't lose hope for the 'friends' who have NFI and seem so tactless...I am convinced that until you experience a MC you really cannot truly understand how so very sad an event it is - regardless of weeks or days that you have known of the pregnancy. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, although threads like this dispel any myths or secrecy about how frequently it happens.

Wow...I have obviously had a vino this eve to rebel against the TTC angst and have the gift of the gab tonight! sorry for long message! Hope everyone else has had a nice evening (probably off BDing!!)

monkeys seems like the bleeding is getting much lighter now and it started like yours did on a sunday so seems to be following same sort of track

meita not glad you are here but glad you clicked through, lots of support here

tfls am quite lucky that i usually get major ovulation symptoms that are quite obvious, notable mood swings, change in CM and cramps for 48 hours beforehand so even though use Persona on normal months my body ypically tells me when. I am sure that it will be different post mc and will try and be patient- but am seeing the inbetween weeks as an opportunity to do some diversionary bding and get the ball rolling again prior to actually ttc so dh is oblivious to timescales and so on. We had not done bd since BFP as was not really in the mood - mostly too tired and pretty hormonal

weather is definitely not lifting my spirits either, but short work week is a bonus, roll on tomorrow.

Cith - fingers crossed that this cycle is the one for you

Monkeys - glad you have support from other friends. I think a lot of the time people feel they have to ask a question to show they are concerned and they see that as a fairly innocuous question.

Cheepz - it is hugely frustrating (and I loathed having to use towels again), hope it's not long for you. Have a fab time tomorrow, it sounds like an excellent plan.

Meita - according to fertility friend, you just count day 1 of the MC (full bleeding)as CD1, I couldn't tell you anything about temperature patterns though as I never remembered to take mine. Fertility friend lets you search charts though, so you may be able to work out a pattern.

Hope everyone is having a good day.

Hi everyone

RubyLoves1 - thanks for the positive story. Much needed!

Cith - sorry about the BFN but hopefully your body is fully back in sync now and ready to try again.

Monkeys - I'd be pissed off with your friend in the circumstances. Less about the wording of the text but more that she wasn't on the phone or came round straight away to talk to you. Is she normally supportive? I guess some people doesn't understand how upsetting a m/c can be. Maybe chalk it up to experience.

Cheepz - completely get your mini milestones. Stopping bleeding was a massive one for me - it stopped in less than a week and I was grateful as I'd read about people bleeding for weeks on end. But be patient after that - I feel in a mini limbo not knowing where in my cycle I am etc. I just want to get on with things.

Helpet - hi, hope you're feeling better today? I know my DH has expressed a desire to not know when it's "the date" and he prefers blissful ignorance. Do you know what exactly is stressing your DH? Just wondered if Cheepz's approach would help at all?? sorry if that's too personal a question but just feel for you as you don't need any more tension at the moment.

Meita - sorry to hear about your m/c but welcome on board. I haven't tempted before but I'm just about to try (m/c a week and a half ago) so perhaps we can compare experiences. Had a nightmare buying a thermometre thanks to swine flu! Finally got one yesterday which told me I'm running a high temperature despite feeling normal .

Got the blues today. Don't think this weather helps - we really need some blue skies and sunshine to cheer up us.

hello meita! when i first read your post i thought you meant you were temping at a compnay for work or something and couldn't work out the relevance!!! i'm guessing you mean checking your temp?! in which case no i have no idea!!! sorry to hear about your mc but i think this thread will be good for us in the same situation and it's good to know we're all having the same feelings!

thanks for your replies cheepz and helpet. i think you're right in that this particular friend won't be much support in this situation. strangely enough have just had an email from another friend who asked pretty much the same thing but the way it was phrased and the other content of the email didn't make it seem as insensitive. although she's not been in this situation she is more worldly wise so maybe that makes the difference?!

cheepz - re: the bleeding. my bleeding started on the sunday and got heavier throughout the monday but had pretty much stopped by thursday then just very light spotting until saturday so hopefully not much longer for you. i did feel the same though, wanted it to stop so we could start again.

helpet and cheepz - admittedly i haven't often been rampant in the bedroom department but when we'd made the decision to ttc it definitely spurred me on to make more of an effort. i've never gone down the root of working out exactly when i'm ovulating and the best time to ttc but clearly it's on your mind. when i got pregnant this time round i knew i was ovulating so made sure we bd then but we have also at other times so it doesn't become a clinical thing. i can totally see how the pressure can become too much though and i hope somehow i can find a way to stop it becoming an obssession although that may be easier said than done! i did jokingly say to dh last night afterwards that i only need him for sperm and warmth in bed but he took it in good homour. he's just happy to get it when he can!