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The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

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BuckyAndCocktails · 02/07/2009 16:54

New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

[higs]

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PicknMix · 04/08/2009 21:38

Ok, am going to try again.....

Its lovely to welcome some new faces here

Before I get onto that - R4N2+3 best of luck tomorrow Can't wait to hear about it all. Hope you managed to get your childcare sorted?

Right....

Lizbaz come join me in the 'Unexplained' corner - I find it a really irratating diagnosis as you really can't do anything to sort it out!! I was put on Clomid by my consultant. I think they did it just to stop me moaning (I reckon I could rival anybody for the worst PCT). I've had one round of the Clomid so far (unsuccesful) totally unmonitored so no idea if it did its thing or not! I totally echo Bucky in saying "IVF is extreme but from what the ladies on here have experienced it would seem the most effective way to a dc if nature isn't going to do it". Not sure any amount of Clomid is really going to help me. Although I haven't really reconciled myself to IVF either.... Tis tough, isn't it?

Hi to Okiwi I'll get Lizbaz to budge up a bit so you can join us in the 'Unexplained' corner! Similarly, I've been ttc for 3 yrs as well. Have you got a date set for your next round of IVF?

Sounds like you had a lovely time in Sweden Caitni (luckily I 'previewed' my message cos the first time I wrote 'Swindon' which I'm sure has some lovely parts but is nowhere near as beautiful as where you've just been ). And YAY for an early scan - hope you're going to post some pics?

That's v cute about the laughing courgette MrsH . And a huge relief that she is growing ok now. Only 12 weeks left? Seriously??

GG am, as ever, thinking of you

Well done Ei with the weight loss - definitely do it sensibly (ignoring all GP advice). My DH went food shopping the other night and has obviously decided We are now On A Diet. Everything is healthy eating this or low fat that!! Bit boring if you ask me but I do need to lose this spare tyre I'm carrying around!

How was the carboot Bucky?? Hope you thwarted the early birds by not allowing them to see in your carboot (scarred me for life, the ferocity of some carbooters - in yer boot before you could get the key out of the ignition!!) and made lots of dosh?

Finally a massive hello to all the oldies who have returned!

Pleased to hear E is doing well Mibbes - 8 months already? Blimey!

How is F doing MTW? Lovely to 'see' you !

DG - have been following your DSIS updates on FB, you must be v excited! And for the unofficial trying - how doubly exciting!!

Right - have officially written the most ridiculously long post, if you've got to the end of it, well done!!

No time to update on me (although, to be fair, there's not a lot to say!!)

xx

ButterflEi · 04/08/2009 17:00

hi ladies
RFN2&3 wow!! induction tomorrow!! amazing!! buckets of luck for you and i decided to ignore the advice and go solo on the diet
welcome to our new ladies okiwi glad you have joined us everyone here is lovely and we all know the struggle well
it is CD5 for me today cycle 23 but good news is i have had a (relatively) normal AF for once and i am plodding on with my diet and i am hoping to be a healthier weight/skinny cow before long as RFN2&3 said before i had some dismal and truelly awful 'advice' from my GP when i went to see him to discuss my wish to gain better health ( he told me to starve myself as that is how he thinks i will lose weight as i must be beyond sensible advice) i can assure you all that i will DEFNITELY NOT be taking that snippet of advice despite some less than sypathetic MNers who told me i should follow it anywho... i am halfway through week 1 of my new lifestyle and it seems to be ok for me at the mo
i hope you are all doing well
GG if you are lurking i am thinking of you and i hope you are as well as can be expected {{{{{{higs}}}}}
xx ei xx

Caitni · 04/08/2009 15:26

RFN2&3 wow - great news about the induction tomorrow . Getting to practically 37 weeks is fanastic with twins, and I bet you can't wait to meet them! I hope the induction goes smoothly and I can't wait to hear how it goes (though will fully expect you to be too busy with a 3 year old and newborn twins to get much time on MN ) xxxx

Mibbes hello! Glad to hear your little man is thriving and lucky you getting to meet Ei

readyfornumber2and3 · 04/08/2009 14:55

Hi all x

GG still thinking of you (((hugs)))

MrsH Glad your little courgette is doing well and I hope the hospital take your concerns seriously x

Bucky hope the money making is going well

PnM How are things going for you this month? its a real bugger when you lose the big posts, never seems to happen on little posts either

Caitni Glad you enjoyed the wedding and its a great idea to have an extra scan- they are so reassuring in the early days

DG Wow how exciting! will certainly keep an eye out

Okiwi and Lizbaz welcome to the thread the ladies here are lovely and hopefully you will be getting those bfps soon

EI How are things with you? hope you havent had anymore stupid "advice" from that GP

waves to anyone I have missed x x

Well I am 36+5 today and I am being induced in the morning!! I have had enough and my consultant is happy for them to arrive now I have to ring at 7am to make sure they have a bed and then if they do I have to go in for 8am. I am really excited and nervous all at once lol

mibbes · 04/08/2009 12:00

Hello ladies ! Apologies for such a long absence. I have read most of this thread and it is lovely to hear everybody's news. I was delighted to read about GG until last week when it all seems to have gone wrong - I am so, so sorry to hear that .

Bucky am glad to hear you are on the road to IVF and still as mad as a box of frogs

I met up with Ei a few weeks back - it was great to finally meet an MN lady. She was lovely as was her DD.

DS and I are getting on great, he is 8 months old now !! anyway he has just woken from nap so best go - I'll keep an eye on you ladies and pop back soon xx

Caitni · 04/08/2009 11:13

Morning ladies

It's lovely to see some new ladies on here . This is a lovely and supportive thread, definitely my MN "home" too, and have been my lifeline in getting through ttc.

MrsH that scan sounds lovely - it must be amazing to see your baby so clearly. And I'm glad the consultant was good, but you should definitely use your slight nervousness to make sure that everyone is up to speed with your birth plans. Glad to hear that little courgette is small but perfectly formed - there's still plenty of time for her to grow after all!

Bucky hope you had a swell weekend lady. How did the car boot sale go? I am a massive fan of car boot sales...although I'm actually banned from going at the moment as our current tiny flat just has no more space for my love of bargains! Hope you made a tidy sum

LizBaz hello and welcome . Sorry to hear that you were a bit surprised at the doctor recommending IVF - I'm pregnant after my first round of IVF and we had to have it because of my husband's low count (we actually had ICSI, where they inject a single sperm into the egg, rather than IVF, as where there's any issue with the sperm clinics won't risk regular IVF) and I still remember the shock and anger (and grief) when I had to come terms with the fact that nature needed a major helping hand in our case. I didn't want to "waste" time with IUI, as the success rates are so low compared to IVF especially with male factor issues and the biggest indicator of success with IVF is maternal age. Three rounds of IUI still wouldn't give us a cumulative success rate as high as one round of IVF/ICSI with the clinic we chose so going straight to IVF seemed like a much better plan for us (but as we went private we had this choice...had I been on the NHS I may well have had to have IUI as a first step before IVF). Clomid has most success with women with ovulatory problems like PCOS and clear tubes, but it could be something to consider while you're waiting for your IVF go (or goes...your PCT sounds as good as Bucky's with regard to funding cycles!).

Okiwi hello and welcome to you too . I'm so sorry to hear that the first round of IVF didn't work...but I'm glad you're planning another go. I also post on the assisted conception thread, where the ladies are a fount of knowledge for all things IVF related, and it seems really common for IVF to take up to three cycles to work. I'm not sure where you're based, but it may be cheaper to travel abroad for IVF (Norway, surprisingly for such an expensive country, is actually very reasonable for IVF and a lady on the assisted conception thread called LondonLottie went there for her first round). Anyway, it's great to "meet" you and this thread is a great support for the ups and downs of ttc

RFN2&3 hope you're taking these last weeks easy...can't remember quite when you're due but it's August isn't it? Not long now til you meet your twins - so exciting!

GG thinking about you and hoping things are OK with you and MrGG xx

O7MTW great to hear that your little girl is growing up . Can't believe it's been 10 months already!

DigiGirl wow at your sister! She must be thrilled! I've never actually watched X factor but I may just have to check it out this year

PnM gah at the laptop issues - I got a new laptop recently and I don't like typing on it yet so am doing all my MNing at work (tricky in a comedy open plan office!).

Ei hope you're doing well lovely lady

I'm just back from a lovely weekend in Sweden - we went to a friend's wedding on an island off Gothenburg...it was so beautiful and a really relaxing break. For my first ever sober wedding it was great! Quite a few of my friends figured it out and were utterly delighted (a few of them are parents themselves so had lots of lovely tips to share ). But we decided to book another scan for Saturday - my NHS scan isn't for another 3 weeks, which just feels so far away, especially now that so many people know...I'll be 10 and a half weeks by Sat so we should get to see a lot more than the 7 week scan .

Anyway, time to actually go and do some work (well, maybe go and get a hot chocolate and then do some work )

PicknMix · 03/08/2009 21:12

Gah!!

I just wrote a ma-hoosive post and its disappeared! And then my laptop died so now I'm on my mobile which also has no battery...

All I really wanted to do was say hi to the new people here!

I'll be back later with battery xx

okiwi · 03/08/2009 20:35

it's nice to find a group who understand how i feel about ttc. we've been ttc over 3 years and have done most if not all of the tests and it seems there's nothing wrong, so it's unexplained infertility. One failed round of IVF and we're saving the cash for another round in the near future (hopefully) how about the rest of you?

BuckyAndCocktails · 03/08/2009 20:21

LOL, of course Okiwi although I should say we are not THAT depressing hee hee..., we've just been here a long time! How long have you been trying?

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okiwi · 03/08/2009 18:18

hi ladies - can i join you too? ei sent me your way from a thread i started about being fed up of ttc.

digitalgirl · 02/08/2009 22:15

Hi lizbaz welcome to the thread!

Just thought I'd drop in and spread the word. DSis has gone amazingly far in this year's X Factor, final 24 acts out of 200,000 who auditioned. So you're all gonna have to watch it and vote for her band FRANK.

BuckyAndCocktails · 01/08/2009 21:38

LizBaz you can never give too much TMI on this thread LOL . I'm in Herts and we get three goes too, so fingers crossed we both get a good result.

Stick around. Its nice to have someone new around. This thread has been going in one form or another for literally years and most of us have met in RL too now. I think we must be quite intimidating to those who lurk because nobody new ever joins us any more.

If not, the best of luck to you and let us know when you get that BFP so we can congratulate you.

Bucky xx

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LizBaz · 01/08/2009 14:12

Thanks very much, BuckyandCocktails - I think because a couple of people I know conceived immediately once they were on Clomid I just want the same for myself, but you're right that it probably wouldn't do much for me in my situation (which is also yours). Am going to have some tests at a GUM clinic as one or two things make me suspect persistent bacterial infection (sorry if this is TMI!) but if that's not a problem then I should just get myself on a waiting list for IVF. I'm in Cambridgeshire, and am super-lucky as apparently they've just changed things so I could be eligible for up to 3 free courses, and will certainly get one. So I shouldn't be complaining at all, or certainly not on that score.

BuckyAndCocktails · 01/08/2009 14:05

ooh oh and hello O7MTW so great to hear from you and to hear that Freya is growing up to be such a big girl already! .

Come back again soon. xx

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BuckyAndCocktails · 01/08/2009 14:04

Wow, well with a drop in from SarahNH, DG and [trumpet sounds] 07MTW I couldn't keep my trap shut...and A NEW PERSON!!!!!! [grin}.

LizBaz Welcome welcome and even more welcomes because you sound the same as me...37, TTC for over 3 years with 'unexplained infertility'. What area are you in, geographically? What you are offered seems to depend on your Dr and PCT. To be honest, they gave me Clomid but generally it is for people who have ovulation issues. Some Drs will give it to women who ovulate regularly but it doesn't really do anything except perhaps make the quality of the eggs produced better. That said, they could try it with you, wouldn't hurt. I had a lap and dye, and HSG and Day 3 and Day 21 bloods and they did give me clomid, which didn't work (for the reasons given above I suspect) and now they are referring me for IVF. I would say that if there is no reason that they can see that you have not got a BFP yet after all this time there is not really much else for them to do it seems. The Lap and Dye might help them see any issues external to the womb, so that could be more exploratory, but treatment wise, there doesn't seem to be much they can do if they can't find anything 'wrong' IYKWIM. So, in summary, yes IVF is extreme but from what the ladies on here have experienced it would seem the most effective way to a dc if nature isn't going to do it. IUI, isn't that just where they check you have ovulated and then put the sperm in? Well my doctor said that as I had been using OPKs I obviously was aware of my ovulation times so doing effectively the same thing as having sex wouldn't really help...

GG had had her blood test again last time we spoke and I imagine she was due to go back for another to see if her levels had dropped. I hope she won't mind me saying but the results of the bloods after the 'event' were in the 800s so the levels had not doubled since the 600ish test she had had on the Monday. I haven't spoken to her since though. I didn't want to stalk her because I know from experience you need a bit of space with the emotional ups and downs that accompany the not knowing whats going on.

MrsH Courgette is too cute. Laughing indeed. I saw the pic on your FB page...bless. I'm glad all is going well and you sound like you have the medical staff under control. Good for you.

Well enough ramblings from me. Gotta go finish stocking up the car for my car boot sale tomorrow. [Bucky waves to all the other ladies she had not shouted out, and leaves the room]. x

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LizBaz · 01/08/2009 12:11

Hi, I'm new on here. TTC for about four years (I'm 37). We're in the 'inexplicable' category as everything seems ok, although dh's count a little low. Had HSG test, but fertility doc said that if nothing happened in the next three months (we're about a month and a half in) then I should try IVF. Even though it appears I am ovulating, shouldn't I try Clomid first, or perhaps IUI? Seems a bit drastic to go straight to IVF without the option of anything else first. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be glad to hear them. Otherwise just nice to read the posts and feel others are out there too - thanks!

MrsHappy · 01/08/2009 11:22

Hi ladies

MTW I remember you too - how nice to see you and it's good to hear how Freya is doing.

GG I hope you and MrGG are ok. I was rather hoping that it was just another bleed but I suspect that you've been so quiet because it wasn't. Anyway, lots of ((((higs)))) for you, and if you need to rant we're here.

PnM I lmao at "shagging with intent". And my poor DH, he would be sloping off knackered for an early night and I would be all "don't you DARE go to sleep" . I think he looks forward to pregnancy as the chance for a break...

Caitni how are you feeling? Is it getting more real these days?

Ei How are you? I was rather hoping that this was going to be your month... any news in that area??

Bucky what's the new car? Are the dogs behaving themselves now?

RFN2 I hope the childcare issues get sorted. Do they need to get the babies out so early or would it help the logistics if they waited a bit (i.e. could someone other than your mum help you out)?

Not a huge amount going on here. I had a meeting with my consultant who seems sensible and appeared to understand my point of view. But am still a bit nervy about the hospital since I rather doubt that she will be there when I go in and even if she is it will be some awful registrar (hopefully not the one I saw last time!!) who actually "looks after" me. Oh well, I still have 12 weeks to get everyone briefed! And this morning I had another scan. I have never had one this late before and it was amazing - courgette was sticking her tongue out and everything. I have a hilarious photo of her looking like she is laughing which I will try to put up on my profile later (am luddite so it might not work...). and while she is still on the small side she is now within normal limits which is fine - DD was not huge either and she is utterly normal.

Anyway, back later, hope everyone is having a restful weekend

ButterflEi · 31/07/2009 22:13

hey MTW i remember you it is indeed me glad to hear little freya is doing well lovely to 'see' you
xx ei xx

07mumstheword · 31/07/2009 22:08

Hello all remember me?

After months of not being on Mumsnet (Freya is 10 months nx wk (DD1 now 4) and I'm just getting some me time!!) I thought I would try and find a few old faces and see how things are going and to my complete surprise the old thread is still going!

I've briefly caught up and found it is the usual highs and lows with everyone supporting each other all the way.

Firstly GG I read happy news and then the devestating possibility of MC. I sincerely hope it is just a scare and wish you and DH all the very best for a happy outcome.

Congratulations to Catni and it's been that long MOB you've got twins?

Bucky Life still seems crazy for you and those dogs are keeping you on our toes!

DG Unofficial TTC Fingers crossed.

ButterflEI Is that you Ei ? I remember you used to change your name but always kept the Ei!

Picknmix SWI is a new one but very apt! Sorry you've been poorly hope the enthusiasm returns

R4N2&3 Congratulations! I'm assuming you are expecting twins? Not long now! Hope you get childcare sorted before labour.

Many congrats Mrshappy when are you due?

Sarahnh Hi! Hope Tess has a fab first birthday!

It's so nice to catch up with you all it takes me back as you were all so very kind to me. I was lucky enough to graduate but I alway felt this was the most comforting and friendly thread, it feels like my mumsnet home!

ButterflEi · 31/07/2009 15:42

just a quick one from me to say GG hope you are ok {{{{{{higs}}}}}}}
xx ei xx

readyfornumber2and3 · 31/07/2009 15:36

GG if your lurking just wanted to say that am still thinking of you and hope you and your dp are ok x

PicknMix · 30/07/2009 13:22

Not sure you will be but just in case you're checking the thread at all GG, you and MrGG are still in my thoughts x

Bucky, sorry forgot to say hope you're ok in my last post. I think I know how you're feeling, I think I might be at that point as well - minus the new car! Big

MrsHappy · 29/07/2009 19:38

Oh crap. GG I'm so sorry and I hope that it turns out to be "just" a bleed and not an MC. If there's anything I can do let me know.

Bucky sorry to hear you are feeling low too.

JollyBear · 29/07/2009 19:07

what awful, awful news GG . Life is shit sometimes (pardon my french).

Madoldbird · 29/07/2009 17:48

Oh GG You and DH are very much in my thoughts. XXX

Bucky Thanks for letting us know. I'm sorry to hear you are feeling low. XXX

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