The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

lizbaz sorry you got your af yesterday, but pleased your feeling positive about ivf now.

mrsh is it really only 7 more weeks of work?!! And do tell me more about the new birthing centre at the whit.

caitni are you going to Whittington too?

rfn2&3 apologies but I don't think I've had the chance to congratulate you yet!!! Are you nose deep in lovely snuggly babies unable to imagine them ever being big enough to toddle across the room?

So, I am unofficially wondering about doing a pregnancy test. It's been about 6 weeks since my last period and have been feeling crampy for quite a few weeks now. However I distinctly remember this from last time I was ttc'ing - cramps for weeks and then bfn after bfn till eventually af showed up on some random day. Bearing in mind my last cycle was 5.5 weeks I am late compared to that. But the cycle before that was about 3 months and nothing before that as that was my first period since giving birth. I am also still breastfeeding, ds has been cutting down but then last week upped his feeds as he was unwell. So am totally in the dark as to when I should test. Should I wait till my tummy starts getting bigger? Dh thinks I should test tomorrow so I can rule it out and go see the gp about these cramps.

Wow, thanks everyone (digitalgirl, Caitni, RFN2&3, PicknMix, MadOldBird and MrsHappy - think that's everyone - sorry if not, am only quickly scanning the internet in a library!) for the lovely supportive greetings and advice, and BuckyforC for continued support. And congrats, RFN2! I haven't been on for a while as I've been down in Devon looking after my grandmother and only had very sporadic internet access (and some of it only on a phone screen). Just got my AF yesterday so feeling a bit low as usual (that's month two of the three after the HSG without the hoped-for success...) but cheered by the support on here, and the advice that IVF probably is the way to go. Will be on a waiting list by the end of next month, hopefully. (Well, most hopefully I won't need to be, but it's looking that way!) I might raise the Clomid thing one more time, PicknMix, but I suspect that I'll probably just wait for IVF now. There are obviously a lot of us inexplicables out there and it's not crazy to go straight for it even if there isn't a defined problem as such. Anyway, have to go catch a train but great to touch base again with everyone and good luck with whatever stage you are all at.

Thanks Caitni. I found the thread and have posted. Your scan and booking appointment will come in no time. A word of warning - I find the Whit ante-natal clinics rather hot, crowded and stressful (partly because I am scared of hospitals) BUT the medical people have been very nice so far, so don't be put off by the nasty green lino etc! And talk to them about the birth centre - it is spanking new and looks lovely.

JB I am glad you still post here too. . I am not planning to finish work for another 7 weeks (although since I get only maternity allowance it kind of doesn't matter when I go - I will be broke regardless!) but I don't know how much feet up time there will be since I have lots to do...

Right, have been told I am all anaemic which explains why I am so knackered, so off to bed with me. Back tomorrow!

Afternoon ladies

MrsH I sent you a message on FB but someone in the Pregnancy topic is trying to find you - see here - so thought I'd post it here too

Hope everyone's well

Morning ladies

Ei I looked up your thread after JB mentioned it and I am totally and utterly at some of the responses! I read through most of it and was gobsmacked. My own personal (and rather uncool ) philosophy is that I post things I'd say in person in RL - which is why I pretty much never post in AIBU. The general vibe in that topic seems that the same posters crowd threads with rude posts, points scoring off each other like a bunch of adolescent boys . Which makes me think that people like moondog and some of the other regular and rude posters lead sad lives to get their kicks baiting people on AIBU! Pretty tragic inho. I think you were sensible to see your GP, who behaved like a total idiot - a problem many of us have come across when seeking advice about ttc. Not sure if I've mentioned this but I'd recommend the low GI diet. It worked for me - shed two stone without joining a gym or doing things like 6 hours of hard exercise a week (as one poster on that thread suggested ) - really easy to do with a job, a young child and a household to run double ). Anyway, enough ranting about the bitches ladies on that thread, I used a book by this guy Rick Gallop and what I liked about it is that it's not a faddy diet, but a lifestyle change, and I've kept the weight off mostly (until comfort eating when dealing with ftc and IVF ). You'll get there and I'm glad you'll be seeing a dietician

JB I love that you post here! You were already pregnant when I joined the thread and I like the continuum, helped me at least to keep my eyes on the prize during the long and stressful months of ttc - I'd be quite sad if people left once they'd got their BFPs (or their babies in your case) so you better stick around

MrsH hey, I thought the north london ironing mountain lived at my house . That's really interesting about the ladies you were out with. Just goes to show how the "I fell the first month trying" is definitely the exception rather than the rule a lot of the time...my booking app is on 23 Aug, with my first NHS scan on 25 Aug...which felt like ages away when the letter arrived but are gradually getting closer!

Waves to everyone else. Things fine with me - I'm feeling so much calmer after my scan on Saturday and am enjoying it (11 weeks today!). Right, off to a regular meeting...time for some work!

xxx

Ooooh it has gone quiet on here. HELLO?!

Anyway, sorry for my quick posts recently.

ei Glad you aren't disheartened by the comments you got on AIBU. People can be so nasty! I wanted to write a post saying what a lovely and cheery lady you are and how DARE people make such comments. You were holding your own very well though so didn't want to undermine your arguement with "but she's so nice, STOP IT" etc. I hope my comment was OK, I was so grrrrrrrrrrrr on your behalf!

bucky Lovely to see you. Good on you at the car boot sales, we really need to do one, it took us over an hour to locate the christmas decs last year, the attic is full of crap! I'm gutted on how your PCT are messing you about. How can they suddenly change their opinion on your test results? It is outrageous. Are you awaiting yet another scan?

GG I expect that you will not be popping in for a while but I just wanted to say that you and your DH are in my thoughts. It goes without saying that this latest attempt must have knocked you for six, so so heartbreaking, I just want to say that we are here if you need us

MOB Don't forget those pics when you get a minute, you too RFN2!! MrsH Great to hear all is well with you. When are you finishing work? Won't be long till you can put your feet up (pre baby of course!).

New people, welcome! I should explain that I graduated from the thread last year when DD was born but everyone is so nice, I stay around and chat. I hope they don't mind .

Anyhoooo, love to all!

Hello everyone,

Just a quick one as we are heading out it in a mo...

R4N2&3 Congratulations! Fantastic news. Keep us pipped on the names you choose.

caitni Fantastic news about the scan, I saw lots of funky prams when I was in Berlin, the Europeans have some really nice looking ones.

PnM I think that as your sister knows that you are struggling to have a child, it was rather insensitive of her to go into quite so much detail. Buckys steak analogy was a very good way of putting it. Of course you have mixed emotions about her pregnancy, completely understandable, all of us would feel the same. Do NOT beat yourself up about it.

I really must go but will be back... hello to everyone, I saw some of the old faces are back, hurray - hello mibbes, glad you and DS are well, and hello to all the newbies. Everyone here is just so lovely!

Wow - so so glad to hear it Caitni.

You must have your booking appointment at the hospital soon, yes?

Just a quick one because I have to tackle the North London ironing mountain, but I was out last night and of the 10 women there (excl me), 2 had used clomid to conceive, 1 had used IVF (and is currently on a second miracle pregnancy), 1 is post-ectopic and considering her options (getting very stressed). Of the remaining women, only 2 are married, one of whom has 2 (naturally and easily conceived children) and the other still feels too young for kids. Just made me think how hard this TTC business is - nearly half of us had had some issues (and that's just the ones I have heard about). Quite a strange revelation; you'd think I would have realised...

oh MOB it was amazing! Grown so much in the last few weeks, arms and legs waving away and it even turned away at one point. Perfect heartbeat and bang on for 10weeks+4days (the joy of IVF is that you know your dates exactly ). DH was gobsmacked - he only saw the pix of the 7 week scan as he had flu - and just couldn't get over all the movement. Definitely feels like we're going to have a baby now

In fact, been checking out ebay for the pram brands that we noticed all the Swedes using (Emmaljunga and Brio) . Early days I know but can't help myself

Give those boys of yours a big kiss from their cyber auntie caitni

How was the scan, Caitni?

Evening ladies

RFN2&3 huge congrats to you . What a lovely birth announcement - I got a bit teary . I can't wait to hear the names you choose and hope you're enjoying the precious first days with your LOs

MOB four weeks today . Time is flying! Glad to hear all is happy in the MOB household

MrsH hope today was better than y'day...I hate rubbish days like that. I think I'll be like you with the worrying, I'm still so anxious and am wondering if I'll ever enjoy pregnancy! Which I didn't expect after wanting it for so long . Still, at 29 weeks courgette is getting bigger and stronger by the day . Loved your scan pic on FB btw - officially the best scan pic I've seen as she looks so happy!

PnM big big higs for you . I think your reaction was totally normal, sad though that is. I'm very close to my younger sister, and she knew all the ins and outs of our ftc, and was gutted when she told me she was pregnant last December. I held it together on the phone (of course) and then just sobbed and sobbed for ages after I hung up...and felt so guilty because of course I was happy for them but I was also just so gutted for me and my DH and the general unfairness of life. Hope you're feeling a bit better now - thinking of you xx

Bucky roll on next week so you can move past the tedious tests stage. Wow at your £90 - that's bloody briliant! And at where you're from - I've never been but everyone I've ever met from there has the same reaction as you

Waves to everyone else . DH is just back from work so can finally get dinner off the stove and into our tums. Quite excited as this is the first meal I've cooked in weeks that hasn't physically repelled me - makes a change from crackers and cheese!

And roll on the scan tomorrow - I need to see that things are OK as i've been irrationally worried

RFN2&3 Well done!! Lovely news - so pleased to hear you are all safe and well, and that it all went so quick! Enjoy

MrsH Hope you are having a better day today?

PnM Don't beat yourself up - your reaction and feelings are entirely normal. I completely agree with what Bucky said - especially that the drive to have a baby can be overwhelmingly strong. Hopefully your sister will attempt to be more tactful in the future.

Bucky Roll on a more straightforward appt for you next week.

Have a nice weekend everyone

wow RFN2 you are some sort of baby producing genius! If my labour goes half as well with this one as yours just did I will be delighted! Congratulations - I'm glad the babies have arrived safely. Welcome to the world, little people.

Higs to everyone else.

Pnm hope you are off the ceiling and feeling better.

Good to see you again Okiwi

I am having a bit of a pants day which culminated in me dropping my cashcard and travel card as I got off the bus in the pouring rain. And I can't eat in the evenings anymore because my stomach feels like it is being pressed somewhere up into my throat. On the upside I am 29 weeks (I think) tomorrow and although I am still having nightmares about something being wrong with the courgette, every day that passes is a day closer to reacquainting myself with my toes!

i'm not from there sadly, but i lived sbout 10 miles away a few years ago.

hello everyone, thanks for the welcome.
congratulstions 2&3 nice to hear some good news. P&M you're not a bad person, what you're feeling is totally understandable. sorry i don't know the backstory but it sounds like a very awkward situation.
bucky were you at the GWH by any chance? if so i used to live near you!

Just wanted to let you know my birth announcement.

Went in to hospital yesterday at 09:00 as arranged, only to sit there until nearly 11:30. The midwife managed to break my waters and advised we went on a nice stroll to get things going. 14:30 nothing was moving so they put in the drip. Lots more waiting around and finally started getting contractions about 16:45 and they came thick and fast. 17:30 came with just us and the midwife in the room and I warned her it wasn't going to be long. 17:39 baby girl was here! Weighing 6 lb 1/2 oz. They quickly put the scanner on me to find that baby 2 was breech but they were happy for me to try and deliver naturally. 17:45 major gush of second waters (I think I soaked everyone in the room) and suddenly 2 feet popped out. 17:52 baby boy safely delivered weighing 7 lb 2 1/2 oz.

Both are feeding really well and we came home this afternoon. Looking forward to getting to know them and choosing some names.

Er, Picknmix, no you are not a horrible person. It's shitty and unfair for you, that's what it is. When my sister was pregnant (before we even started contemplating it) I was so pleased for her because it felt like the next best thing to having a baby myself, but I can see that if I had been having problems at that time the fact that she is my sister would make it all just too close to home. I hope you will forgive me for saying this but she doesn't sound like the most sensitive person in the world. Knowing what you've been through I would have thought offering to keep the baby talk to a minimum would be more appropriate...

GG I hope you're looking in occasionally and know that we are all thinking of you and hoping you are feeling ok.

RFN2 hopefully by now you have your babies and you are tucking into a giant post birth dinner!

Welcome to Lizbaz and Okiwi. The great thing about this thread is that we've all had different ishooes and experiences but there's lots of support to be had and none of us are leaving until we've all got our babies!

MOB wow- can't believe they are 4 weeks already. I bet they are starting to show their personalities and everything...

Caitni I'm glad you had a lovely time in Swindin and that the pregnancy is going fine. Are you about 10 weeks now? The scan should be way more interesting than the earlier one!

Mibbles it's nice to see you again and to hear about Mini-Mibbles.

Ei at that doctor! I mean, "eat less, run more" is the best weightloss advice anyone ever gave me (I tend to mess up by eating healthy food but loads of it!), but it is hardly "starve yourself". You do sound on good form, though.

Bucky how was the boot sale?

Phew! Think that is everyone, but sorry if I missed anyone. I am feeling tres tired now and looking forward to the next 9 weeks passing quickly so I can stay home and relax with my bump. DD was really late so I tend to think I may as well work for as long as humanly possible (so I don't spend all of my savings by the time the baby comes) but I've been having lots of braxton hicks contractions and so am starting to wonder whether it might all be a bit earlier this time around!

Hope you're doing ok R4N2+3 and the littlies have arrived safe and sound?

Is there any one around who can talk me down off the ceiling? My sister told me this afternoon that she is pregnant.

The same sister who is currently having tests to ensure her tubes etc are all in order before she started ttc.

Said tests are only being carried out, ironically, due to the problems I'm having.

The same sister who only started actually trying to conceive THIS MONTH.

It was all I could do not to cry in front of her. In fact, I did such a good job of feigning indifference she insisted on telling me, in minute detail, how she found out, how she told her husband etc etc.

I'm a horrible person aren't I.

RFN2&3 WOW how exciting!!! Hope it's going well Can't wait to hear your news. All i can say is that life with twins goes really really quickly, so make sure to savour every precious moment

lizbaz & okiwi Welcome! This is a lovely thread and it's great to have some new people. I have found no end of support here through ttc & IVF.

GG Love to you as always. XX

07MTW & Mibbes lovely to see you both

MrsH So pleased to hear that the latest scan was fine. Nothing wrong with her being smaller - you don't want to give birth to a great big marrow Oh, and a from me as well at you only having 12 weeks to go!

Bucky So, hope you made loads at the boot fair. We did one a while ago and i found it quite addictive!

DG I've been enjoying your X-factor updates on FB and will of course be voting when the time comes!!

Caitni Looking forward to hearing about your scan on Saturday. I had one at 10 weeks (not through choice though) and there was definitely loads more to see than at 7 weeks. Enjoy!

EI Good luck with the new lifestyle!

PnM Lovely long post from you but no news from the PnM household! What are you up to?

Thing are going well here - the boys will be 4 weeks on Friday!! I can't believe it. They really are little angels (well, most of the time ) and are much more awake and alert now. I'm slowly getting back to normal, and trying to get out for lots of walks to build up my strength again. DH goes back to work on monday, which is going to take some getting used to, as it's been lovely to have him around.

EI Glad you ignored the doc and good luck with the diet, it may take a few different ones to find what suits you but you have already done the hardest bit by deciding to do it Hopefully you wont be able to stick to it for long anyway

PnM Glad you managed to get your post up eventually lol

Well I rang the hospital and they have put me off till 9am so cant really complain, I am just having breakfast before we set off just after 8am and I am nervous as hell!!
I may be away a few days but will try and update asap.
I do hope to come back to some good news though!!