The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

MrsH glad to think you it's a bug (not that it's pleasant for you but it's better in that it may clear it soon). My consultant is Miss C Paul - haven't done any googling (been too busy!) but am not too bothered about seeing her now. At least it means I only have until next Wed to wait for me "16 week" appointment.

Big waves to everyone else. Hope you all enjoy the long weekend. I'm off to Ireland until late Tuesday so won't be around all weekend. I get to meet my 6 week old neice (and pick up lots of maternity clothes from my stylish sister ) and my 3 month old nephew...as well as enjoy the company of all the rest of the fam.

So bye for now xx

RF2and3 your babies are gorgeous. Lucky you getting two of them!

Caitni I am glad they are being helpful at the hospital. Who is your consultant? I am deemed "high risk" and will only have a total of 3 appointments with doctors by the time this is over (admittedly the first one was a total waste of time) but they do generally seem quite happy to let the midwives take the lead even if you are a risky one like me, which is nice!!

I don't think the way I feel is anything to do with the baby. In fact I think I have a tummy bug. Someone has suggested that I have the dreaded swine but I doubt it...

Anyway, am supposed to be working from home, so back later!

Thanks Readyfor . We've decided not to find out what we're having - as it's our first we're just not bothered beyond wanting a healthy baby.

Caitni so glad everything is going well with your bean will you find out what your having?
Im sure you will get referred back after the appointment and you are very lucky having a supportive midwife x

Ah Readyfor totally gorgeous pictures . They are so cute! I'm glad to hear that all is well with you and that the babies are so chilled (lucky you ).

I'm so to hear about GG though...what a complete nightmare for her. I really hope the medical intervention gets it sorted soon. GG if you look in sending you lots of hugs at this awful time.

MrsH sorry to hear you're feeling blue. I imagine it's not too uncommon in these late stages (I'm thinking you're 32/33 weeks ish no?). I hope you start to feel a bit better soon - the end is in sight!

JB I was at your cats - what new heaven they have discovered with your DD's weaning!

Bucky sorry to hear that the PCT are still mucking you around - you're probably sick of chasing by now! - but yay for Miami. At least you'll get a lot of much needed R&R and come back all tanned and gorgeous

PnM so sorry to hear how insensitive your sister's been . Really hope it doesn't come to moving away, as you and your DH sound so happy in your current place...apart from this of course. And you sound perfectly sane to me!

Lizbaz hope the 40th party was fun!

Waves to MOB Ei Okiwi Digitalgirl and anyone I've missed.

I had my 13 week scan yesterday, and apart from a baby who wouldn't start posing properly for a while, it went very well. I'm planning to put up scan pix at some point.
The sonographer did a lot of pressing on my belly, which helped get the baba to move but my god, I thought I'd wee on her! The nuchal scan was fine and the baby is bang on for dates.

I now have my 16 week check up early - next Wed at 14 weeks - as both myself and the obstetrician are away in Sept. I was a bit annoyed about having to see an obstetrician, as my GP just put shared care automatically because it's an IVF pregnancy and I was a bit p!ssed off about it...but the midwife assured me that if all remains fine then I'll just be referred back to midwife care and all will be well. Also got to discuss wanting a homebirth - midwife seemed very pro and explained all about the how it would work from a midwifery point of view. Must say, am liking the Whittington so far .

GG Thinking of you and hope things get sorted quickly for you x

Bucky Hope your letter comes soon and things can get moving for you

EI How are you doing? (love the new name)

PnM So sorry to hear how insensitive your sister has been ltely nd hope you can resolve it somehow x

MrsHappy Hope you feel better soon, nothing worse than being ill when pregnant, How long has little courgette got left to bake now?

MOB How re things with your little boys? Would love to see pics if you have time

Digi Any news?

JB Keeping my fingers crossed for your lottery win lol

Waves to everyone else x

Well Adam and Sophie are 3 weeks old today and I love them to bits I cant believe how chilled out they are, its actually easier this time than with DS1 lol

I have put a few pics on my profile if any of you fancy a peek

Oh crapity crap crap. Poor GG. Ectopics really are utter bastards. If you look in, GG, I hope you get it sorted soon. If you want a rant, I think you have my number and also I found the ectopic pregnancy trust pretty helpful with my pointless questions, moaning etc. They might be worth looking up.

Bucky how irksome that you are still waiting for your letter. I agree with JB that you should set the dogs on them!

JB We have most of the stuff, but there are somethings I wanted to get. We need a new cot mattress (because you are only supposed to use them for 1 child) and I am scared this baby will be cold (DD was born in a very hot summer) so she needs blankets and things like that. Also DD has kept all of her baby blankets and won't let them go! So I am still buying odd bits.

Ei - it's nice to see you. I hope you are keeping well.

Not much news here either. I am feeling like shit and am not sure whether I have a bug or some sort of pregnancy-related aches. I shouldn't moan because obviously am very glad to be pregnant, but my goodness I am sick of belching and being uncomfortable. I have even come home early because I feel like pants. Boo hooo hooo.

Blimey poor GG . That's just terrible. Do give her my love bucky.

How much waiting around can you stand bucky before you storm the PCT headquarters with Finn and Molly by your side demanding answers? How are the hounds? Done anything amusingly naughty recently?

Our cats are loving DD's self feeding. The big old tabby jumped up and removed a tuna laden rice cake out of her hand the other day. DD thinks it is most amusing.

P&M Can you just not see your sister without moving? Unless you are keen to make a new start it seems a lot of trouble to go to. Is your sister not able to understand why her pregnancy is difficult for you and tone it down a bit? Big

hi ladies

its mighty quiet in here recently
bucky hope you are well sorry to hear GG is having a nightmare time of it hope things are ok for her xx

hello to everyone else
nowt to report here

xx ei xx

Its very quiet here . Are you all ok.

I'm still waiting for my letter...ladedadeda..., so nothing to report really. I go on hols next Thursday to Miami for my girls week away.

I'm in contact with GG regularly, she said it was ok to let you all know that she is having a total nightmare . I'll let her give you the details but she is having a very hard time at the moment shifting an ectopic pregnancy . Her levels are still going up even after intervention . I really wish I could do something to sort it out for her.

Anyway, hope you are all doing ok and my cyber neices and nephews, born and unborn are all fine. xx

hi guys,
thanks for thinking of me it really makes a difference to know there are people out there who understand how i feel. pick'n'mix - i agree totally with you about feeling like giving up, though it's not really even giving up, it's almost like a rebellion against those who are pg/have babies. i can't really explain it, only that i sort of feel some days like i want to think of the things my friends with kids can't do and then rub their faces in the fact that i can do those things. even though i'd swap places with them in a heartbeat because i don't really want to be going out getting pissed til all hours or going away for a weekend at the drop of a hat but i'm going to try and make them jealous of me instead of the other way round. god it sounds awful written out like that doesn't it?

Hi all,

Sorry I've not been around much - nothing to report, really (and my DH's 40th birthday party on Saturday to organize on top of (allegedly) work etc. - feeling just a little overwhelmed at the moment!). Really sorry, PicknMix that you're feeling a bit low - totally understandable, must feel a bit much at the moment. I'm lucky that my sister is as sensitive as she can be, but I felt really bereft after she left after a short visit with my nephew, whom I'd cuddled and fed a lot (sounds a bit pathological - I didn't get any ideas he was mine, don't worry, and am fine now, but did feel a pang!).

My grandmother is ok, although it wasn't the best visit ever - wanted to get her out of the house but going anywhere is a problem as she's less and less mobile, and trying to go to the seaside in Cornwall in the summer was logistically a bit of a nightmare, with hordes of people and no parking. I even managed to make her carsick! Great... Oh well, lesson learnt! Hopefully on balance she was glad I was there!

Anyway, really have to get on with cleaning house prior to party before I slope into work at some disgraceful hour! All the best to everyone (and especially to Okiwi - it's god awful this whole business but we're here if and when you need us). xx

Picknmix you do sound sane to me, and I can completely understand how you feel - especially the not wanting to TTC anymore. I think I veered from obsessing about my CM and plotting what to do next to make things happen to deciding to give it up as a bad lot on a near daily basis! Anyway, I hope you are your DH are ok. Can you have a word with your sister and tell her to lay off the baby talk for a bit? Tell her you are excited for her but that it is just too much to be listening to it all the time...

Hope everyone is well. I am 31 weeks tomorrow (sorry, PNM, now here I go with the baby talk ...) and so things are getting close. Hopefully she'll stay put until at least her due date because I need to keep working as long as I can. Or to win Euromillions, that would do too . Then there would be the MrsH IVF scholarship for any of you who want it!

Ok, back now with a bit more time!

Congrats on reaching the 12 wk milestone Caitni - bet you're counting down the days until the scan (only 6 more sleeps!). How are you feeling? Hope the sickness is on the wane now?

How's the courgette doing MrsH? Yay for iron pills! Is DD getting excited about the courgettes arrival?

JB can I just reiterate that of course we don't mind that you post here - in fact, would be very if you didn't! Its lovely to hear about Jollycubs progress and you always give good advice!

Where are my lovely ladies on the bench?!! We all seem to have done a disappearing act....

Hope you're ok EI? Ov already occurred? Hope the stiff neck has sorted itself out now?

Boooo to the rubbish PCT Bucky! Have you sorted it out yet? Have you located your DH's test results yet?

Okiwi sorry to hear you're feeling down, I'm just trying to drag myself out of that place at the mo as well - its tough, isn't it? Do vent or rant as much as you want on here, it's what we're here for.

Lizbaz sorry to hear about af, and also hope your grandmother is ok? Its great to hear that you're feeling more positive re IVF, it can sometimes help just feeling like there's something being done to get you nearer to your baby goal, even if its just being put on the waiting list.

How are you doing GG? I was going to see if any of you were around in London at the weekend but the day was literally jam packed with 5 year old activities (ok, so secretly I quite enjoyed them as well!). Hope you're ok x

Lovely lovely names R4N2+3 - so great hear that all is going smoothly for you at the moment. Did you say your mum is going in for an op around now? Hope thats all ok as well.

How are the boys doing MOB? Hope they're settling down as well - very cute photos on FB! (Have I said that already?! Probably but that just means they're doubly cute )

I apologise for not being around much. I went into a bit of a freefall after I heard about my sister. You're all right - she is fairly insensitive. Its not that she's malicious, she's just not very socially aware. She has said some pretty hurtful things to me in the past few days and I'm growing an incredibly thick skin, but I am also getting ridiculously stubborn and childish i.e. I can't really be bothered with TTC as it just feels like it doesn't matter anymore. Which I appreciate makes nosense whatsoever.

I genuinely don't know how I'm going to cope over the next few months - so much so that DH and I have been talking about moving away (she currently lives 3 miles away).

I'm in a bit of a ranty mood tonight so I'll cut it short before I start telling you all about my lack of car, my crappy job and my totally negative attitude to everything!

(I am sane really, I promise)

Hi guys,

Just a quick message to say hi and apologise for not being around much.

Will try and catch up a bit better tonight when I have more time....

PnM x

Morning ladies

Bucky sorry to hear that the Hammersmith are being so annoying losing test results etc. They sound pretty rubbish on the administrative side, which just adds to the stress. Nightmare! Hopefully you'll be pregnant before too long and all of this will be a distant memory

DigiGirl so...did you test??

RFN2&3 such beautiful names!! I love them and I'm glad to hear the twins are being so laid back - you also sound very laid back for a mum of three . How's your DS1 taking to being an older brother?

MrsH know what you mean about the risks - all things to ponder - but your midwives sound so good to have said that a home birth is an option for you. The birth centre does look great - is that where you're booked in?

Okiwi hope you're feeling a bit better

Ei hope things are good with you - have you ovulated yet? Am so hoping you catch the egg this month [fingers crossed emoticon]

PnM hope you're off enjoying the sunny weather - it's so roasting on the tube that I was missing the south coast this morning...especially as a colleague took today off to cycle to Brighton!

MOB hope things are going with with you too

Waves to Lizbaz Jollybear GorgonsGin

Not much new with me. Am 12 weeks today and just waiting for my booking in app (this Sunday) and my 13 week scan (a week today). Otherwise just wishing I was off work to soak up all this lovely sun...

Meant to say how nice it is to see all our new ladies too.

Hi all x
sorry I havent posted for a while been kinda busy lol

Caitni so glad you enjoyed your scan, its great seeing them x Can understand why you want a homebirth ( I was going to until we found out it was twins)

Mrshappy Glad they spotted the anemia and that the iron tablets are working, its hard enough being pregnant with a toddler without the extra tiredness lol

HI to everyone else sorry for not doing individual posts but havent got time

Well Sophie May and Adam Edward are doing well and are actually very laid back and easy going.
I am feeling so well that I have to remind myself I only gave birth 10 days ago lol

I seriously considered HB too, Caitni, and my independent midwives are happy for me to birth at home if I want. What has swung it for me is that although risks of something going wrong are very small (and things go wrong at the hospital too), I could not cope with wondering whether things might not have gone so badly if I had been at the hospital. It's a tiny risk, as I say, but one I couldn't bring myself to take even though I trust my MW.

Anyway I guess the important thing is that you give birth wherever you are most comfortable, and you have bags of time to decide where that is. If the hospital are not supportive and you want to go that way I can put you in touch with the independent midwives who I am using. But do check out the birth centre - there are some details on t'interweb here and I am reliably informed that the rooms have very nice bathrooms (a fact which I liked after experiencing them in other hospitals...).

Hope everyone is well. I don't work Fridays so am spending the day with DD, who needs a bath badly, so will be back later. Perhaps with a new name after reading the DM thread...

okiwi sorry to hear you're feeling low. Do rant away here if it helps.

caitni I was thinking homebirth till I actually did a tour of the labour ward and thought perhaps for my first it would be a good idea to be somewhere with easy access to a variety of pain relief. Just in case. The labour ward midwives when I gave birth to A were all absolutely fantastic. Dead keen on avoiding bringing the doctors in. Which was good. I'd say the birthing centre sounds like a fab compromise. But go have a little look and see what you think!

Another thing to think about re: homebirths is whether you think you'll be really noisy. I was a screamer and was glad I didn't have to tone it down for the sake of the neighbours.

Still dunno re: testing. So bloody expensive. I really don't feel PG anyway. Cramps are all lower back related rather than twingey womb related. Might just wait another week.

ooh Digitalgirl you must test! As MrsH says it could be your body gearing up to get back on track...but it could also be you know what . I am indeed at the Whit, who apparently have a jazzy new midwife led birthcentre too though I've not actually booked in for a tour yet. Was that where A was born too?

MrsHappy I'm glad to hear the iron pills are helping with the tiredness - it's good that the anaemia was spotted. Also glad to hear that courgette is still kicking away. She's probably laughing away too if your last scan is anything to go by . I really hope the next ten weeks also rush by for you! And thanks for the heads up re the Whit antenatal clinics. I'm actually [whispers] thinking about a home birth...on the basis that I can always transfer in if I need to. My DH was born at home, as were some of his siblings and nephews and, since our conception was as medical as you can get, I'd like the birth to be as intervention free as possible. I'm going to see what the midwife says when I book in...

LizBaz sorry to hear AF arrived...fingers crossed for cycle three post HSG . Though also glad to hear you're feeling calm about the prospect of IVF, though I think you should bring up the Clomid thing again. I'd say ask any questions you need to feel comfortable with the treatment proposed.

Okiwi so sorry to hear you're feeling low again . TTC is such a rollercoaster and it can really get you down...I always found that I started to perk up as ovulation approached though. Even if I had vowed to take a month "off" of tracking signs etc I'd inevitably notice and get all hopeful that this month would be the month for the BFP. I think it's human nature (compounded by hormones). Hope you start to feel better soon and we're here whenever you want or need to rant xx

Ei am liking the name change . Good idea getting your DH on board to help with the stiff neck . Really hope this month is good news for you. How's the weight loss going? I'm jealous as am feeling fat having manged to get up the duff when I was at the heaviest I've been in years...

Bucky Madoldbird JollyBear RFN2&3 (will you name change now they're here? And can't wait to hear what you've called your LOs ) GorgonsGin PicknMix waves hello and hope you're all doing well.

Things fine with me though (big time TMI alert!) had some extremely light brown spotting after sex the other night. And of course was totally freaked out, though my books and google confirm that it's pretty common after sex and not something to worry about unless there's lots of it or cramping or whatever. And the scan at 10.5 weeks was perfect, so I doubt it's anything to worry about. Still, it's kind of put me off sex for the time being (poor old DH).

evening ladies
hope everyone is well
not much happening here
got a stiff neck and a headache so im gonna ask DH to help me loosen it up seeing as how im due to Ov any day now anywho...
xx ei xx

hello ladies sorry i've not been on here recently, have been feeling very low again and generally avoiding people (even virtual ones!)

Evening ladies

Lizbaz glad you are feeling ok about the possibility of IVF.

DG of course you should test. If it is a BFN, the cramps might just be your body "gearing up" to ovulate and then not. I had a lot of that during the year or so after my DD was born (she was BF until 7 months, but my periods came back after 14 weeks annoyingly). It took my body a while to get back on track IYSWIM and there were lots of random cramps in the meantime.

Hope everyone is well. No real news from me. Courgette is very kicky and I am less tired now I am on the iron pills. I just wish I could blink and make the next 10 or so weeks whizz by!