The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

Blimey it is quiet! Helllloooooooooooooooo. Where is everyone?

ei Well done on the weight loss, that is a fantastic achievement. Have you any idea where you are in your cycle at the moment? OOoooh we know you have accurate predictions. You should test.

DD can now wave. It is very cute, almost regal and she shows it off at any opportunity. I am back to work next week, boo. I'm going back part time so it shouldn't be too awful .

Hope everyone is well. Love to you all.

hey ladies
its so quiet in here
where is everyone??
not much to report here TBH so i just thought i would duck my head in but the couch has been deserted for a while CD21 here and i am taking thing easy this cycle. me and DH have decided that TTC is getting too stressful and it may be time to stop. we cant afford to go down the assisted conception route so the normal way is our only chance and it seems to be quite inneffective at this particular moment in time i am concentrating on my weight issues and have managed up to now (with the support of my GP) to shift 5% of my body weight and counting
i have however had an overwhelming urge to do a test the past few days so who knows
hope everyone is well
xx ei xx

Hello everyone,

Just stopping in quickly as I need to tidy up, this place is a mess!!

bucky Didn't you have an appointment this week about IVF stuff? Sorry for not wishing you good luck . How did it go? Are you still on course for November treatment?

PnM Yay for getting a dog! What sort are you planning to get?

MrsH Hope your remaining work days just fly by! Not long now...

Levi Perhaps your DH is just feeling a bit pushed out by the idea that IVF is 'all about you', as his contribution is his only medical involvement. I hope that comes across how I mean it to . I just think IVF is hard for both men and women emotionally, it might not be that he isn't interested but that he needs to find his feet with it all. He should certainly come to the appontment though.

GG How are you doing? I do think about how you are - hope that doesn't sound weird! You know what I mean I'm sure.

Must go, love to all.

Hi there,

I've booked an appointment with the fertility doc and nurse to talk about IVF, so the ball is rolling (so to speak!). Bit dismayed this morning though as DH said 'I'm sure I don't need to be there, you can tell me what I need to know', just confirming how uninterested he is by the whole process and how much this is my project and something he's only grudgingly involved with at all... I don't think he realizes how hurtful and upsetting I find this. I also sneakily wanted to have him there in case they said anything about how detrimental the drinking might be to the chances of success (in fact I might even have primed them to say something like that, providing they think so, obviously - or is that too despicable?). If they tell me, and I tell him, he won't believe me or will brush it off and assume I'm exaggerating. A bit blue about it all this morning.

Anyway, I should be feeling more positive about the fact that I can get IVF (for free) at all. Thanks for all the support. I do want to go for it - really feel it's now or never.

Fingers crossed for the house news, MrsHappy and hope things start to feel easier soon, and the cold goes away. At least Courgette is doing well!

Sorry to hear about things with your sister, PickNMix. I'd say having a newborn and being up all night for the tenth time in a row etc. etc. will chasten her a little when it actually happens...

Hope the hols are good, Caitni! And hi to everyone else!

Bonjour all

Levistubbstears have you made any decisions since you last posted? FWIW, I think we all have mixed feelings about parenthood. I've met women who went through hell to get pregnant and felt nothing but terror when they finally got what they wanted. And with my DD we tried for (ok not that long) 6 or so months, and she was very much wanted, but still I was shocked when I got my BFP and I spent the next 38 weeks worrying about everything, from money to how we would cope to whether I could be a halfway decent mother. These things do work out though and I am sure the mixed feelings will bugger off for a while once you know what you want to do next.

Caitni I hope you are enjoying your holiday.

Picknmix well done for surviving sister time. I think I would have agreed to swap the dog, though!! That might have put the fear into her!

Right, we have a man here looking at whether our house is falling down (please not!) so I have to go deal with him. Courgette is fine, I am huge and still have a cold and am really hoping that the next 5-7 weeks go more smoothly than the last couple... I have 9 more working days to go and then I can (sort of) put my feet up for a bit.

Hi all!

Levi - IVF is a massive step to take for you and your partner, but I think DG is most likely right, IVF will feel no less normal than temping, cervical persuits or opk testing once you start - you need Caitni to talk to, she's back soon though. Sorry to hear about af, I know the feeling of holding out hope for the 3 month HSG luck to take effect...doubly

MrsH how are you doing?! Its super close now 'til your due date isn't it?? Hope you're coping ok.

DG how are you? Already starting to obsess a bit? Its so very hard not to, isn't it?! I tried to give up but its always lurking in the back of my mind!

Hope you're having afab time away Caitni

Hellooooooooo Bucky, Ei (fab new name), MOB, JB, Okiwi and R4N2+3, hope you're all ok?

I've just taken delivery of a copy of TCYF....in the hope that the laws of pregnativity kick in and it becomes redundant

Had a good week with my dad, although meant I had to spend some time with my sister (we have a new plan - to get a dog - and my darlingsister suggested that when she was on maternity leave she could have our new dog stay with her, nay, she would even swap the new baby for the dog as it would be 'more interesting' . She is a fool (and not getting her mits on my [hypothetical] dog)).

PnMx

Thanks, digitalgirl - just rang the surgery to speak to the lovely fertility nurse about IVF (yikes). She isn't in until Wednesday so all the gearing up was for nothing and feeling a bit frustrated now but at least things might be moving soon. Will try to be super-nice to DH for the next few days too and then gently return to the topic at a good moment and try to have a civil discussion. Hope your own TTC goes well - so hard, I know, to keep it casual!

Sorry to hear that Levi. I think once you've come round to the idea of ivf it won't feel anymore 'deliberate' than charting/cm-obsessing/opk-testing (of which I am guilty of the second despite supposedly 'casually' ttc#2).

Well, AF has arrived exactly on time , so that's it for the hopeful three-months-after-HSG-being-conducive-to-conceiving scenario.

Anyway, small pause for being a bit sad for a day or two, and then some tricky discussion with DH. Got to decide whether to put ourselves on IVF waiting list or not, now - do I push for it with all my powers of persuasion, am I sure enough? Just wish it would happen without me having to be so horribly deliberate about it...

Anyway, thanks for being there, folks, and Caitni for last kind post. It is great to have this as a forum - do appreciate you all!

Morning ladies

LeviStubbsTears LOVE the new name (am a billy bragg fan ). And Seatbelt...er, makes Brandy look like a "good choice" . I'm sorry to hear your sister is struggling with her baby - the sleep deprivation and stress must be awful . But don't feel guilty discussing these things, as one of the things I love about this thread is that I've felt like I can pretty much say anything and not be judged (been a lifesaver at times!). I personally dread having a nightmare time (and worry about things like PND or failing to bond or just generally being a rubbish mum...), but at the same time I think infanthood is such a small part of the years and years of parenting ahead that I'm hoping to let it wash over me. I've been warned by sisters/SILs/my mother/MIL that the worst bit about the first year is the sleep deprivation induced arguments and rattiness with your partner. But it's good to worry/talk about these things, helps to stop them from growing into an unreasonably big fears...

Anyway, enough rambling from me! Just popping in to say bye for a while, as off to the US after work today. Won't be back until the 27th but will try and check in with how folks are doing. Has taken me all morning to actually post this!

xxx

Hi all,

Back with a new name (no longer LizBaz) after forever - thanks for not giving up on me and sorry for not posting - have been away, up and down mood-wise with FTC, and (traitorously!) on other more specific threads a bit. Hope you're all well - great news Caitni about scan and good holiday. The names thing is funny, isn't it - my friend's nephew, of a similar age, had two suggestions for my friend on learning she was having a boy: his own name (Angus) and, when that was rejected (as "too confusing"), Seatbelt! No, no, don't thank me for those helpful suggestions!

Sorry you're feeling at the end of your tether, PicknMix. The anecdotal cases among my friends have had great luck with Clomid so fingers crossed. But I know very well that feeling that nothing will work. I seem to be cycling through being miserable about FTC, frustrated with DH for his disinclination over the whole thing (and corresponding unhelpful behaviour, like drinking with gay abandon), and some very mixed feelings on my own part about the whole idea of having a baby. My sister is having a very difficult time with her son (3 and a bit months) and the whole thing does look so very very tough. Feel guilty talking about such feelings on here, when some of you are so keen for it to happen. I am too at times - it's all very weird indeed. I think having waited so long, it feels so unreal as to become scary again.

Anyway, I'm nearing end of third month after HSG test, so will probably go on a waiting list for IVF soon if we decide that's what we'll do. So need to make a decision pronto!

Anyway, better do some work as it's mid-morning with little achieved!

Hope everyone else is doing well. xxx

Morning ladies

Hope everyone is doing well.

MrsH your daughter sounds so cute - I had a great time with my 3 year old niece in Ireland and I've decided it's a lovely age (and how handy that you don't need to look after her now she's three ) as they're still very young and innocent but are starting to "grow up"...I can't believe that your DD2 will be here soon - am getting so excited about meeting my newest cyber niece!

Bucky glad things are now properly moving for you. Totally normal to be freaked out now it's here - I was the same when things finally started. Glad you're off on holidays, so you're nice and relaxed facing into treatment. I'd also recommend the accupuncturist I used - Ian at Balance Accupuncture. I went to him after LondonLottie recommended him and found him v experienced (he specialises in fertility so has heaps of experience of IVF and now working against the drugs etc) and down to earth...and cheaper than any other accupuncturist I went to!

DigitalGirl hope your cycles settle down soon - must be frustrating when you're trying to get a sense of what's happening. I can't believe A is one already...your birth announcement just doesn't seem like that long ago!

MOB your boys are gorgeous!! Thanks for the pics...it's lovely to see them in person . Hope your older DC are happy to be back to school and are loving their new little brothers.

PnM your dad is over this week isn't he? Hope you're having a good time and your sister is being more sensitive. And glad to hear of the new car (what type is it? I'm getting interested in cars since I've decided we need a new one...as my incentive to start taking driving lessons again ). Hope the Clomid works for you this month, though you must be sick of the mood swings etc.

RFN2&3 wow that the twins are over four weeks already! Time is flying...and it's lovely to hear that you're loving being a twin mum and things are going so well in the ReadyFor household .

Jollybear not long now before jollycub is properly mobile...and then you'll have to get the eyes in the back of your head to keep an eye on her!

PandaEis possibly my favourite name from you and your never-ending pot of great names! Must be my addiction to mascara talking . Glad your t'interweb connection is back but to hear you're onto cycle 24. You've been through so much in your 2 years...I really hope you get a sticky bean soon [fingers crossed emoticon]

Waves to Lizbaz and Okiwi - hope you're both doing OK

Things are fine with me. I had my "16 week" check last wed at 14+1 and it was fine except I had to wait nearly TWO hours to be seen! So my blood pressure was understandably a little higher than my booking in appointment (must have been caused by my numb arse from the uncomfortable chairs!). I then ended up seeing a registrar who had been drafted in from the labour ward to try and clear the antenatal clinic backlog. He was very nice and actually very relaxed about the home birth desire (he said "ah yes, I can see how you'd want that after the clinical experience of IVF" and I was like "yes, yes, that's exactly it!" and I now have "wants a home birth" scrawled across my notes ). It was very hard for him to hear the heartbeat but I was remarkably relaxed about it, since my extensive googling assures me that 14 weeks is early for a doppler to work clearly (an unintentional benefit of being a google pregnancy stalker).

We also had a super time in Ireland. We got to spend lots of time with all of my family, including all the nieces/nephews ranging in age from 7 to 7 weeks so lots of little people to practice on. The older ones are all very happy that we're having a baby - my 6 year old nephew was very "helpful" with names (Brian and Brandy are his top choices ).

And we're off to the States on Thursday night to visit the in-laws for over two weeks so just have to get through some manic days at work before it's holiday time again!

Sorry for the mammoth post

Evening

DG that is a mammoth cycle, but don't worry about it too much. When I had DD my period took about 14 weeks to come back (in spite of me breastfeeding for months afterwards - grrr) but my periods were really irregular - 90 and 60 day cycles, for example. I had some acupuncture and probably by the time DD was 1 they had settled down to 29-35 day cycles. So it took about 9 months for things to behave more normally. Hopefully it will settle down for you too before too long.

Ei It's nice to see you and glad your internet connection is back.

How did the seduction go PnM? Like DG I have forgotten how to do that stuff now. TBH I am not convinced I ever want to do it again right now!!

Caitni Did you have your 16 week check? I hope it went ok.

News from the fatty... I am kind of big and my pelvis feels as though it is falling apart. And I have braxton hicks contractions every day. I just hope that all of this means that, unlike when I had DD, my body is actually gearing up for the big event. It would be cool if this one was early but I am not holding my breath! Mr H has not been well and so the two of us laze about on the sofa while DD does pretty much whatever she wants. But it's ok, she told me yesterday that "three year olds can take care of themselves", so that is my job done, I guess!

Anyway, back later - hope everyone is well.

Sorry, been a while since I've checked in here.

Hope things are getting better GG bucky things are on the move!

MrsHappy are you at the horribly uncomfortable stage now? where even sleeping is difficult?

caitni how is bump growing, is it looking more like a pregnant bump or still just a bit like a big dinner?

RFN2&3 your twins are gorgeous!

PnM Hope the seduction is going well. I've completely forgotten how to do that sort of thing.

JB ah, frustrated crawler stage! When you could still leave them in one spot and go to the toilet....

I managed to hold off from testing till AF arrived last weekend. Was a little disappointed, but probably not as much as I would have been if I'd tested. It also coincided with DS going through yet another 'change' and deciding to wake up every night and scream for 2 hours. Which made me wonder how on earth I'd cope with another.

Mammoth 8 week cycle that was. I thought giving up the daytime BF's would shorten my cycles - but no, am back to pre-pregnancy crazy long cycles.

hi ladies
long time no post no tinternet as DH didnt pay the bill
AF arrived slightly late on wednesday so CD3 cycle 24 for me now it seems like yesterday i sat on the 2ww sofa for the first time i thought it would be a short wait but hey ho... im glad i have been in such good company for this 2 year wait hopefully those of us who are still waiting wont have much longer to wait
xx ei xx

Hello all,

PnM Ithe mood for seduction despite hot flushes and mood swings, well done you! When does your dad arrive and enforced time with your sister begin? What car did you get? New cars are very exciting.

Re the clomid etc, when is your next check up? Did they say what the next steps were going to be? It is odd that they gave you clomid and haven't monitored you. But as we know your PCP have their own ideas about things .

MrsH Jollycub is very well thanks for asking. She is a frustrated non-crawler at the moment and spends most of the day pushing herself up onto her hands and lifts herself up slightly on her feet and then sprawls onto her tummy. I pick her up and the cycle begins again!

caitni How was the check up? I don't think I had a 16 week check, is that because you had IVF and are special?

Oh and not planning another just yet PnM. Speaking of which, did you test DG?

Evening all,

I feel bad - in my head I'd said hi to Caitni but reading back over my post today, it looks like I didn't!!

Sorry Caitni, hope you're doing ok? You had your '16'wk check yesterday didn't you? Hope it all went well.

R4N2+4 your son sounds very cute, he's a good boy for trying to help!

I'm off to try and seduce my DH now (tmi!?) - seem to have lost all interest at the mo so need to make a bit of an effort!!

Hope you're all ok

x

MOB your little boys are gorgeous how are things for you? We are doing well at the moment but have a feeling the next 2 years will be intersting to say the least lol

Caitni Did you have a good time with your niece and nephew? Bet you got plenty of practice in

PnM DS is doing quite well, he tries very hard to help but does get a bit jealous when I am feeding them!
Glad you are mobile again and hopefully your sister will be more sensitive x

MrsH your DD sounds so cute glad little courgette is doing well

Bucky You must be excited and nervous now,so glad they finally got sorted!

Hi to everyone else x

well the twins are 4 weeks old today (not sure where the times gone lol) and I am loving being a twin mummy
We are getting a new car on saturday as ours is such a squash lol and we need to look at a new house as we are rapidly running out of space so gonna be busy lol

Afternoon all,

Yay for the arrival of the paperwork Bucky!! Hope you have a fabulous time away and feel fully refreshed for drugs and subsequent treatment in October

How very funny MrsH re littlest H talking about cute baby clothes!! Sounds like she's getting excited? Remind me, how are your birth plans now? Have you been allowed to go for a HB or did you decide to go with the MWL unit?

JB how is the cub doing? Must be time for a siblingcub soon, surely???

Speaking of which, how are you doing DG?? How was A's 1st birthday?? Hope he appeciated all the effort I'm sure you went to!

Just in case you're looking in, hope you're doing ok GG and so so sorry to hear all you're going through at the moment, take care xx

Where are you Ei?? How are you doing?

And Okiwi and Lizbaz? Hope you're both doing ok?

MOB your boys are very gorgeous, are they behaving well? Good luck with the back to school madness!

R4N2+3 your two are equally gorgeous as well!!! How is DS doing with them?

Sorry I haven't been around much - have been busy with work. Am back on the clomid this month and the hot flushes are awful. The terrible mood swings aren't much fun either - so much so that I had decided not to take them but DH convinced me otherwise .

Have avoided my sister successfully and, to be fair to her, she hasn't been bad in the last few weeks. My father is over next week from the Far East and staying with us for a week (right when OV will prob happen - brilliant) so will def end up having to spend some time with my sister then but shall grin and bare it!

I truely am at the end of my tether with ttc. The only reason I'm taking the clomid is because DH wanted me to, I don't believe it will work at all.

But in other happier news, I have finally bought a car so am mobile again which is great!!

Anybody else wondering where the summer went?! Its awful out there today!!!

x

Hello all

MOB your boys are gorgeous - very sweet. I did have a rather confused moment when (mis)read your post and thought they were off to school already, though! I mean, I know I have been pregnant forever but I didn't realise I had a longer gestation period than an elephant...

Bucky Yay for the paperwork. Do you think someone at the hospital realised they were at risk of a Finn-mauling?!

JB How's the wee cub?

Hope everyone is well. I am the size of a small house and spent the weekend at a wedding where every gay man in the vacinity asked me if I was going to give birth that day and looked scared. Courgette seems to be fine and I have started buying things for her and digging out the old clothes. We've managed to find a chest of drawers for her things so I have somewhere to put them now! DD keeps getting out babygros and going on about how cute they are! (which is hilarious coming from a very tiny three year old!)

Hello everyone,

bucky It must be a bit when things actually start happening. Great news for you and Mr bucky! MOB Oooh what lovely looking boys . Thanks for posting pictures!

caitni Wow 16 weeks nearly already.

Big hugs to everyone else.

Hi ladies

RFN2&3 Your babies are beautiful!!! You put me to shame by posting pictures first - so i have just added some now. The names are lovely too.

Bucky Yay! Things are finally moving forward for you - so pleased.

GG I was devastated to hear of all you are going through. Lots of love to you.

Caitni Really glad the scan went well.

MrsH Hope you're feeling better?

Big hello to everyone else. XX

All fine here. Busy getting the big ones ready to go back to school, as well as looking after the babies! So haven't had time to post, but do try and read when i can. Hope it's worked & you can see the pics on my profile.

RFN2&3 - Your babies are beautiful .

Just dropping in again to say the letter arrived! Co-ordination is on the 15 Sept with drugs in October and treatment in November!!! . Now it is here I am scared!!! And there is a million trillion forms .

Anyway, have a great weekend girls. Hope we get some sun. xx

thanks MrsH I do feel very lucky Hope you are starting to feel better and what ever it is clears up asap x

Caitni It will be a lovely suprise for you then (I was too impatient to wait and see lol)Have a fab weekend and enjoy the practice with those lovely snuggly babies
I really wouldnt worry about the consultant, I saw the same one every 4 weeks for scans and checks and then when I had them she was nowhere to be seen so it was pointless!! At the end of the day they just need to tick you off their list and then they will refer you back to midwife care x

TBH you probably won't see your consultant anyway - I reckon it'll be some minion who will look horrified when you mention the possibility of homebirth, but don't let that put you off! At clinics they seem to take the patients in rotation so you see whoever is free (unless you ask specifically to see the cons, which is what I did last time after the SHO had done my blood pressure etc).