Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

Just seeing if I can squeeze in one last message to this thread.

Good luck with the gel hippy - you gave me a much needed laugh with your snail trail!

Sorry you're still in the wars rowing. My cold has gone into my sinuses and ear and is pretty painful at times. What a healthy bunch we are! Probably off to the doctors myself tomorrow.

Judging by my monitor and temps, I'm having another cycle where I've not ovulated this month. How the hell am I meant to get pregnant when I'm not ovulating [TFLS shouts at no-one in particular]. Sorry for the rant but getting pretty fed up with TTC at the moment. I think I've only ovulated in one out of four cycles since miscarriage. How long is it meant to take for your body to return to normal?

Anyway, welcome to tibbychop and 10krunner. I'm not such a grumpy cow usually - honest!

Glad you got the opportunity to tell your DH tetley. Thanks for posting the offer - I'm another one thinking of joining kiwi on the slippery side. If only out of curiousity to see how big a tube of pre-seed is!!

fifitot - I can totally understand your thinking. Maybe don't actively TTC and take a what will be will be approach? Anyway, I hope you reach the right decision for you [whilst continuing to pop onto this thread of course!]

Heating is bust at the moment so off to chop wood!

Hi all, couldn't resist sticking my oar in for what really must be the last post

Ermm haven't a clue how to do the new thread thingy so I'll leave that to the more experienced types (you'd never believe I've a Ph.d in computer science).

massive congratulations Tetley that's lovely news and welcome to all the new people.

Well, here I am again hopelessly vague on cd, have sort of given up temping cause now we are trying a to do BD every other day except when the witch is in town.

Of course so far we've totally failed to keep up with this ambitious schedule but it seems like a better bet seeing as I was never quite sure when I OVed or not.

Hi all, Hubbie hogged the laptop again so just had a long read and caught up with you all.

Got the progesterone gel from the chemist and I'm ready to begin inserting it after I've defo ovulated. I can either do the sticks to check for Ov or just wait until day 18. I know I'm gonna end up doing those flippin' sticks cos I'm totally addicted!

Hoping for a longer LP this time. Have started reflexology (taster session last night) more booked. She has done a course on reflexology and fertility so she should be the right person to do it.

I am scared now that I am gonna manage to conceive but then MC cos of the LPD, but someone on my other thread has assured me that a short LP makes it difficult for the embryo to implant but once implanted it doesn't necessarily cause MC. I hope she's right - Hippy goes off to google LPD/MC.......

Hi to any newbies, good luck to anyone waiting for the old witch.

ps. someone else will have to sort out new thread - I might c*ck it up!!

Hi to the baby tetley - ahhhh.

Hello woodelf - CD is cycle day, ie day 1 is the first day of your last period.

BTW experienced Mumsnetters do we need a new thread? Are we about to burst (think I am 999 post!)?

Hi there, back after a bit of an absence...

Congrats Tetley - I'm pleased and honoured to be the lucky charm and willl post more often. Looking forward to the next lady blessed with a BFP!

Would love to be on roll call, not sure what CD is though?? (Bit dense...) First kid at 43 - now 46 and hoping for another gift from the universe!!

Baby dust and sprinkles to all

Hi everyone, back again after a bit of an absence... I'm glad to be of service if my lucky baby dust is spread far and wide over one and all. Belated Congrats Tetley - surely more will follow your fine example

Would love to be on the roll call but not sure what cd means?? First kid at 43 - 46 now and awaiting AF and I'm so scatty I may have forgotten the date of the last one - or maybe.....?

Baby dust and sprinkles to you all

Just realised that Tetley's not on the rollcall.

earoma - 38 TTC #3 CD 19
Rockdoctor - 43 TTC#2 CD28
Fruitbowl - 41 TTC#2 CD 26
vonsudenfed - 43 TTC#2 CD 20?? lost track
mabh - 42 TTC#1 CD10
Rowingboat - 43 TTC#2 CD 8
Spiralqueen - 46 TTC#2 CD7
Kiwikat - 43 TTC#2 CD13
gonepearshaped 41, ttc #2, CD4
Fifitot - 45 TTC#2 CD? Lost track this month!
Hippychick - 43 TTC#3 CD7
Ghenghis - 46 TTC#2 CD1 (humph)
Luckywebby - 40 TTC#3 CD16 (Ithink)
Graduates:
Haraslou
Grownupbabes

Hi
Rowing - sorry that your still not feeling very well. Think the virus that is going aroung is a particular bad one, one girl at work was out for a week and a half and i've been in and out for about two weeks now. Back to docs tomorrow for results of blood tests.
DH is on the mend (slowly) still quite tender but the swelling has started to go down but he still has quite a lump on one side. If it hasn't got better by Friday the consultant wants us to ring back and make an appointment to see him.
Tetley - glad you are feeling well. Hopefully the sickness will miss you this time.

Hope everyone else is OK

x

BTW there are 2 for 1 on OPKs at Boots just now which is a real bargain.

rowing sorry to hear you're not better yet. hope doc comes up with something helpful

hippychick thanks for asking, I'm really fine. Have to say i feel totally normal, it's strange. Trying to make myself eat properly now, as seem to remember i started feeling quite sick with dd at about 6 weeks

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Hello Fifi don't know what to say, but I hope your decision's right for you or you get a little surprise this month!

I enthusiastically bought some opks when I started TTC but I haven't used them as I'm often awake in the night and walking about and I hear that means you get duff results. Or is that just for temperature charting?

rowing get back to the doc's. Sounds like you need more drugs.

Hi everyone,

Fifi that sounds interesting about the OPKs. Maybe a break would be nice, but I wonder if knowing that you may have been mistiming would niggle and annoy you if you gave up right now.
I don't do temping for the same reason as you, just too much upping and downing and it's hard to remember first thing when you have a small child jumping up and down on you.

Earoma it's great you have so many people you can talk to, even if they are now all sticking in their oar. There are lots of us on here who had children at your age and older and it has been lovely, so don't let those nay-sayers put you off. You even have baby-sitters on tap.
I had DS at 38 and have really enjoyed the whole adventure, and certainly have coped physically.

Webby check! You are on! How is your DH?

Ghengis blooming WOD, boo to AF! It probably was a funny month though with the timing and everything. Hope it all works out better this month.

I'm still off work, don't think the antib's are working, it is kind of much of the same. Will go back to the doctors tomorrow because this course of anti-bs will be finished tonight. Perhaps they will give me something new to try or perhaps I am doomed to being deaf in one ear, what a delight!

Can i add me to the role call

earoma - 38 TTC #3 CD 19
Rockdoctor - 43 TTC#2 CD28
Fruitbowl - 41 TTC#2 CD 26
vonsudenfed - 43 TTC#2 CD 20?? lost track
mabh - 42 TTC#1 CD10
Rowingboat - 43 TTC#2 CD 8
Spiralqueen - 46 TTC#2 CD7
Kiwikat - 43 TTC#2 CD5
gonepearshaped 41, ttc #2, CD4
Fifitot - 45 TTC#2 CD? Lost track this month!
Hippychick - 43 TTC#3 CD7
Ghenghis - 46 TTC#2 CD1 (humph)
Luckywebby - 40 TTC#3 CD16 (Ithink)
Graduates:
Haraslou
Grownupbabes

x

hi guys
i know i'm not 40 yet but would like to add myself to the roll call if thats ok

earoma - 38 TTC #3 CD 19
Rockdoctor - 43 TTC#2 CD28
Fruitbowl - 41 TTC#2 CD 26
vonsudenfed - 43 TTC#2 CD 20?? lost track
mabh - 42 TTC#1 CD10
Rowingboat - 43 TTC#2 CD 8
Spiralqueen - 46 TTC#2 CD7
Kiwikat - 43 TTC#2 CD5
gonepearshaped 41, ttc #2, CD4
Fifitot - 45 TTC#2 CD? Lost track this month!
Hippychick - 43 TTC#3 CD7
Ghenghis - 46 TTC#2 CD1 (humph)
Graduates:
Haraslou
Grownupbabes

HI Ghenghis i can really relate to your decision and have come close to stopping myself we've been trying now for over a year and it just takes over your life and i get so frustated because i feel i'm letting other half down as this would be his first child (my two are from first marriage) over this last year i have had to contend with sisters, oldest friend and doctors asking me if i'm mad to want to do this all again (DS 15, DD 13)and i'm tired of having to justify yself i'm sure you'll all agree that this is not a decision we took lightly and wouldn't be putting ourselves through all this heartache just for the fun of it.
whatever you ltimately decide ghengis i wish you all the best x

Morning all, well I have woken up to WOD this morning 3 days before AF due, really annoyed because I was convinced hopeful that all was going to plan this month. Fifi I can relate to what you're going through completely, in reality we would have to extend/ move if i did have another as we run the business from here so it would be a shift for sure. I think we'll (note the royal we) try Nov/Dec then that's it. Kiwi I am on my way to the slippery side - off to research pre seed now and get some in ready. Will be in London next week to see Spandau Ballet, hotel stay without DS this time!!
Rowing glad ear seems to be improving, Hi to everyone else!
updated roll call, there are some missing plus yell at me if I've got it wrong
Rockdoctor - 43 TTC#2 CD28
Fruitbowl - 41 TTC#2 CD 26
vonsudenfed - 43 TTC#2 CD 20?? lost track
mabh - 42 TTC#1 CD10
Rowingboat - 43 TTC#2 CD 8
Spiralqueen - 46 TTC#2 CD7
Kiwikat - 43 TTC#2 CD5
gonepearshaped 41, ttc #2, CD4
Fifitot - 45 TTC#2 CD? Lost track this month!
Hippychick - 43 TTC#3 CD7
Ghenghis - 46 TTC#2 CD1 (humph)
Graduates:
Haraslou
Grownupbabes

Thanks Hippy and Rowing and ta for the hug!

I feel fine - honest. I have been really up and down over this last 12 months but the realisation that life doesn't have to be like this just kind of crept up on me. Knowing my luck it probably will be the month!!!!

As for timing...I used to religously temp and that's what got me pg last time I think. Can't do it now as up and down in night to DD. So while occasionally used OPKs not very regularly and relied on cm, position of cervix and 'how I felt'. Last time I got pg I knew my LP was 10 days but over last 12 months was working on it being 12 days, based on the few temping cycles I had managed. However got lots of cm from day 14 and a few pains on day 16 so had been assuming most months I had OVd on day 16. OPKs showed this month I didn't OV until day 18 which is what used to happen. I pretty much think I always OV on day 18, when I think back and maybe have been timing it too early. Could be a one off this month but it all makes sense when I think about it. I know OPKs can be in accurate but was doing them twice a day.

Anyway - thanks for your kind words. Keep the faith!

Fifi I don't quite know what to say. I don't want to say it is good news if you don't really feel happy or absolute about your decision yet.
There are always pros and cons, like you we have been over and over the cons and there are a lot, financial being a big con for us also.
I am curious about the mis-timing, what did you discover?
Do you think it might be worth another month or two if you are sure you have been bding at the wrong time, just to be sure?
If this really is the last time then I feel sad, but it must be a relief and great to get rid of the worry and stress of TTC and have a normal life with no potions, pills, thermometers, abstinence from everything and no more waiting around.
Whatever you decide after this 2WW (who knows, could be the one) I wish you the very best of everything.
{{{{{{{{{HUGE HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

fifitot I don't know why but your post made me feel quite tearful. I hope whatever you decide it is right for you and your family.

God, it's so tough isn't it.

I keep thinking maybe, I should just be content and not try for more. Especially now I have this bloody Luteal phase thing going on.

Keep checking in with us wont you. You never know this 2ww could be the one - especially as you've timed it right this time

Thanks for your advise over on the other thread.

Hello lovely ladies. I have been lurking but not really posting for a while. I think I may have ttc'd for the last time yesterday. Have pretty much decided to stop now. It wasn't that hard. After a year of angst, I think I have slowly started to come to terms.

We are financially better off since DD turned 3 and we get help with nursery and while that sounds so trivial, feel much happier now we are not so skint. The thought of going back to that is a worry. Plus got rid of most of my baby stuff at the weekend.

Used some OPKs for first time in ages this weekend and realised I may have been misjudging my cycle for the last few months and mistiming my BDing! Oh well que sera...and all that.

Good luck to you all with your ttc journeys. I am not going yet, as on the 2ww now but I think it will be for the last time.

Rockdoctor - 43 TTC#2 CD27
Fruitbowl - 41 TTC#2 CD 25
vonsudenfed - 43 TTC#2 CD 19?? lost track
mabh - 42 TTC#1 CD9
Rowingboat - 43 TTC#2 CD 7
Spiralqueen - 46 TTC#2 CD6
Kiwikat - 43 TTC#2 CD4
gonepearshaped 41, ttc #2, CD3
Fifitot - 45 TTC#2 CD? Lost track this month!
Hippychick - 43 TTC#3 CD6

Graduates:
Haraslou
Grownupbabes

My sister has told me about this event:- The Fertility Show in London www.fertilityshow.co.uk.

Anyone else heard of this???

tetley how are you?

Hi rowing yes I do get a bit of the 'rushing' thing. The main clue, bizarrely, is that my thoughts suddenly shift, and I become aware that that's odd. I'm a bit allergic to nostalgia these days as the odd thoughts are often about things that happened in the past! It is a bit peculiar but I have had tests for blood pressure/diabetes/heart issues/thyroid and apparently I am all right, so it they just put it down as idiosyncratic (by which I think they mean they haven't a clue but it doesn't have any major consequences - other than black eyes and split lips!).

I meant to add myself to the stats. Hope these are correct - please abuse me if not!

Rockdoctor - 43 TTC#2 CD27
Fruitbowl - 41 TTC#2 CD 25
vonsudenfed - 43 TTC#2 CD 19?? lost track
mabh - 42 TTC#1 CD9
Rowingboat - 43 TTC#2 CD 7
Spiralqueen - 46 TTC#2 CD6
Kiwikat - 43 TTC#2 CD4
gonepearshaped 41, ttc #2, CD3
Fifitot - 45 TTC#2 CD? Lost track this month!

Graduates:
Haraslou
Grownupbabes

Mabh that sounds really frustrating. I'm glad you know the 'signs' though, so you can prepare.
I have only fainted once, but have had other times where I have almost fainted, but usually at the doctors or whatever, so they have intervened before I splatted on the floor.
I remember there being a ringing in my ears and a kind of whooshing or rushing sensation, possibly the blood rushing to my feet.
Do you have any idea of why you faint, low blood pressure or anything like that?
I hope you are feeling better today and fighting fit.
The ear was ghastly you are so on the button about that, really dragged me down, not getting better for what seemed like ages. In actual fact it was only a week and lots of people go through much more, which is scary really. I so admire people who are fighting of a big illness, amazing courage.

Hello hippy the vision of you leaving snail trail everywhere is amusing !

rowing glad you're feeling a bit better. Amazing how such a small thing as an ear drum can affect your whole body.

Fortunately I was at home when I fainted and I do, periodically, so I know what to expect. Apparently there's nothing wrong with me, I'm just a fainter! Although I do go if I'm feeling a bit stressed or under the weather. I can feel them coming on now so I know to hit the decks fast so that I'm horizontal before I'm unconscious - I know from painful experience that falling flat on your face is horrible - black eye, stitches, you name it! Unfortunately even without all that, I feel as sick as a dog afterwards and spend the rest of the day feeling rubbish. At least it was a Sunday so I had an excuse to laze about!

Hi again,
I have just re-read my post and I had meant to say welcome to Tibby and 10K.
The roll call was so you could see where we all are/were with the TTC.

Hippy, yay for your helpful doctor, how supportive. I hope the pessaries do the trick.
Hope you aren't all slipping and sliding around at your house though.

Feeling a bit better today as the magic magic eardrops continue to help.

tetley interesting to hear about your french friend and the prog pessaries. That's what I got from the doc today. She said it might just be my body settling down since the removal of the coil but due to my age we can't just wait and see! - so she agreed to give me the pessaries that i put up there for a few days AFTER I've ov'd. She said she hadn't heard of it being done much outside of IVF circles but she could see the logic and there was no harm in trying. So it was really just a case of me taking the print out from the internet and telling her what I wanted and fortunately she agreed. She did ask me what age my mother was when she went through the monopause and of course I had to tell her that she was quite young and I could tell from her face that that wasn't very good news. However, I shall remain positive (well try) and hope that the pessaries work. I just need the lining of my womb to stay put long enough for a nice little embyro to make a home there.

The funny thing is I felt so embarrassed, I kept feeling like I ought to get up out of my chair and say, "So I've left it too late then, ok no bother." But I must stress that she never once said that - it was just how I felt IYSWIM.

I'm wondering whether to try pre-seed as well, what with the pessaries, the pre-seed and all the troops (sperm!) - I could well leave a trail behind me wherever I go - OMG Sorry- how rude .