emmsy's onwards and upwards part 2, more good new please!

I've never seen it in the shops, I bought mine from Ebay. You can buy it in a tube like KY or you can buy it in pre-packaged kind-of capsules, I went for the tube as you can then control how much you use each time.

You did the test for the same reason we all test early, we are a all a little bit desperate & slightly mad!

I wish I had the resolve of Jools, I'd love to not test until I'm actually late but the chances of that happening are less than zero!

Try not to dwell on it (yeah right!) it's still early & it may well have been a false neg.

thanks mls -can you buy pre-seed on the high street?

Embarassing confession - i just did a first response test - negative of course -why did i do it, why????aaaggghhhh

Use Pre-seed (sperm-friendly gel that encourages the little swimmers to swim). I don't know much about grapefruit juice but if I'm not pregnant this cycle I'll give it a go - why does it have to taste so awful though?! I'd imagine that you would just have to use it until you have ov'd. Apparently it makes your appetite decrease as well, Brucie bonus!!

I hope your pain is implantation pain, fingers & toes crossed.

Hi all - just wishing everyone a happy easter x

Mummylovessadie - good luck for tomorrow!

only 6 days until i can test - no symptoms yet apart from a bit of period (or dare i hope - implantation) pain.

got a grapefruit juice question - are you meant to carry on drinking it through the rest of your cycle or just pre - ovulation?

has anyone else got any top tips to conceive?! apart from drinking the juice and taking pre natal vits and lots of bding what else should i be doing?!

Vjay believe me if it were up to me I'd be a busy little Easter bunny right now but dh is already mardy-faced because I told him I had a +ive & he's now feeling under pressure! My Mum & Dad are coming to stay tomorrow for a couple of days so we have to get a quick one in after we put dd down for her nap & before they get here!

Blue thanks so much for info re when's best to bd, you said EXACTLY what I wanted to hear.

Oooooooooo I can feel my ovaries pinging in anticipation!

Hi gals,

Vjay - don't you feel bad for feeling homesick and hormonal, it is your right! As Mollie and barbie say MN local is a good starting point. I know what you mean about 'new' friend's not being the same as old ones. My best friend from school and really the only link I still have to those crazy years 1988-1992 lives in Hong Kong so there's no-one to reminise about when we were mad as a box of frogs and sons had to be locked up for their own safety when we were around [big head emotion].

One thing you have though is a lovely gorgeous lo on the way which opens a whole new chapter of potential friend's through meeting new Mum's. Join EVERYTHING - baby massage, yoga, mums and toddlers etc. etc. I was depsreately lonely when I first had DS as was used to being at work or out galavanting with friends and my Mum forced me to join things and it saved my sanity. It takes time but nearly three years on I have four good friends out of it.. i know you have your DS but I do think its harder to make new friend's when their/your lo's are a bit older .

Here endeth the sermon advice .

Hey MLS the only thing my acupuncturist (who is also my GP) has recommended me to do is r-e-l-a-x! re: bd after OPK, I was actually re-reading my old 'how to conceive naturally' book this morning (written by American doctor) and it advises that you Bd on DAY of +ve OPK, day AFTER and day after that (although this is optional). He made a big deal about BD day AFTER OPK as those swimmers should meet the egg coming down - good luck!!

Barbie - have had a peek at your photos on fb and the barbiemobile looks awesome!

Had a nice thoughful time at church this morning and asked the big man up there to be kind to us all this year..

Hi mls can't you persuade dh to go for it tonight? If it was me we would be doing it like bunnies now , good luck

happy easter girls .xxx

Hi all

Very jealous of all that lovely sunshine you are having 'oop North. The weather here - crap crap crap! Wish I could have put my washing outside, instead it is festooning the radiators & the house looks like a Chinese laundry.

I'm v over excited as I did a opk today & it was the most positive + I've ever had with a really dark line, darker than the control line. My opk's are usually v difficult to read. I'm now wondering if it's anything to do with the herbal pills my acupuncturist sold me which apparently balance your hormones, make the lining of your womb stronger & make you produce better quality eggs. I googled the pills & it looks like all the acupuncturists advise taking them & they are common in China. Blue are you taking anything on the advice of your acupuncturist?

I think I'm right in thinking that the best time to bd is tomorrow as I should ov in the next 24-36 hours. Can anyone confirm this? GG where are you..... you'll know the answer! Ideally I should bd tonight & tomorrow but we bd'd last night so my dh will definitely not be up for it three nights in a row! Arrggghhhh stress.... it's all I can think about & I might have to go back to banging my head on the kitchen table!

Hope everyone is having a fab chocolatey Easter & sorry to have just harped on about myself for the last five minutes!

thanks mollie and barbie, I know this will pass it always does, I just think it's all the hormones making everything feel worse, I miss my sister and best mates back home and I don't think you can replace them with new best mates. I have made some friends up here, I just need to stop feeling sorry for myself.

Vjay So sorry to hear you are feeling down at the moment, it's not selfish at all and I'm glad you felt comfortable enough to tell us. Have you thought about checking out MN local to see if there are any girls in your area you could talk/meet with? Its never easy making new friends and there is nothing worse than feeling lonely, we're a poor substitute really but we are all here for you hun x
Jools I admire your strength not testing, I know you think it's just denial but I actually think you are being really strong and I'm proud of you
Blue We have lovely sunshine too and I can beat your washing - I've got 2 loads out! [even more efficient emoticon] Thank you for thinking of Jools and I in church later
Sabs I was a little worried when I saw your FB status, but so pleased you are out of the situation for a few weeks, the last thing you need is a stressful environment, we can usually manage that on our own
You take care of yourself and bump
I'm impressed at the number of A&E nurses we have, I don't know how you deal with some of the people that you must get on a regular basis, I take my hat off to you girls don't think I'd cope with seeing yucky things whilst pg I'd be puking over the patients

Hiya and a Happy Easter, it's lovely up here too, my washing will be out soon enough.

I've been so down this week, I know it sounds selfish, but I can't help it, I thinks it's due to the homesickness I am feeling at the moment and all the hormones in my system. I just sat on my bed and cried for no reason yesterday. I also feel very lonely, I've been up here for 3 years, and although I come across as very confident I do find it hard to make firm friends. Sorry but I have to tell someone and you guys are that someone. Hopefully next week will be better, I'll be back at work and ds will be back and school and normal routine can kick in.

Sorry for a me post, I think I'll have some chocolate, that usually helps.

err make that zoombaby.co.uk

Morning All

Sooo is it sunny down in England? Its lovely juvely up here in Scotland, there is even a heat haze and its only 9.30am! I've hung my washing out already [efficient emotion].

Sabs - lovely to hear from you and glad you have been signed off work, just what you don't need!! I work in HR for the NHS and with my 'legal' hat on, your boss could be done for bullying and harrassment. If it continues when you go back I would start to keep a note of incidents, what was said etc. keep emails and so on as you can cite the 'dignity at work' legislation.

to all our A&E nurses! I deal with staff who are unhappy with the Agenda for Change bandings so hope you all got graded fairly.

Jools - understand your relcutance to test and your mixed emotions either way, I feel exactly the same for this week and have no HPT in the house. I sometimes don't feel I'm mentally strong enough for all the knicker checking but I need to push on through if I want my longed for DC#2.

Gracie I can confirm that if you fall over drunk you escape unharmed. I summersaulted down steps some years ago in high heels and literaly 'bounced' back up unscathed. Still baffles me to this day .

Well I'm off to church later as its Easter Communnion and although I rarely go these days due to DS I always feel at peace once I've been. Will say a prayer for us all and especially Mollie and Jools.

Let the chocolate eating commence

p.s. I but my OPKs from zoombaby.com

Yeah at least you wouldn't tense up then & you could always have a medicinal brandy when you get to the bottom!

I'm off to watch Casualty now, looking forward to seeing what you going to do this week 'Sister Tess'!

You wouldn't believe how common drunken gardening/power tool injuries are!!! Hey MLS I was sober when I fell down the stairs!!! Maybe next time I should try it drunk and it won't hurt so much!

Gracie if it is sunny here tomorrow no doubt I will get drunk & trip over (GG style heehee!) a carelessly upturned rake whilst wielding the hedge-trimmer. So, lucky for you I live far away!

BakingQueen glad to see A&E targets are useful for taking your mind of AF's and OPK's, I don't think the targets are much good for anything else!!
Sabs I think Blue is an NHS manager too.

Jools i'm in awe of your willpower/"head in the sand" approach - well done!

Gracie is hoping all of England except a 20 mile radius around me is sunny tomorrow - I'm at work and can't be arsed bothered with drinking, gardening injuries, power tools injuries etc that sunny weather brings to A&E!! I'm off on Monday can it be sunny then please Mr Weatherman??

not to scare you NHS'ers but I work for a certain NHS regulator, who publishes the results of all NHS trusts annually as to whether they meeting all targets and standards etc! but whatever you say about work on here is kept in confidence

thanxs for all ur supportive messages, uve lifted me already...ive spent the whole day mooching around not talking much, poor DH is such a darling, just being really patient and there for me..just letting me be in my own thoughts

jools nice to hear from you, take all the time u need....we will all just have to be patient and hold your hand whatever/whenever you decide to do...

LBM I have it on good authority (man from the BBC!) that tomorrow is gonna be (as Neeko would say) fiiiiiine!!!

Hi Gracie and Kate nice to meet other people who have the delights of the 4 hour A&E to targets to battle. Have to admit keeping my eyes on that target at work stopped me with my obsessional opk checking. Now on a day off and feel able to wait for af!

V quick post - MLS - I think you might live close to me, I'm also in Surrey and the weather is soooooooo pants! Just stop *loddy raining!! How am I suppoed to do Easter Egg hunts in the rain!!!!

Good to hear from you Sabs. I've been in similar work situations - walked out and got signed off sick whilst I looked for another job. It is soul destroying - recovery from that episode took over a year for me, so you are well out of it.

I haven't POAS yet - am scared too To be honest, I'm not sure whether I'm more scared of a BFN or a BFP Have very mixed emotions at the mo, so am adopting a head in the sand approach for a couple more days

Still no AF, and no pre AF spotting. I was expecting spotting to have started yesterday or this morning and full flow at bedtime today, but nothing at all

I may test tomorrow, but have an early start off to DP's aunt, uncle and cousins for an Easter lunch (am breaking my diet for a day and can't wait for choc !!)

Sooo, may not test tomorrow but if no AF by Monday, will probably do it then.

Sorry to keep you all in suspense

Sabs so sorry to hear you have been having such a tough time, glad you feel like you can confide in us lot. It sounds like you have such a lot on your plate & your awful manager was the straw that broke the camels back.

Don't worry about bringing us down, we are all here to lift you back up again.

I first felt my dd move (little tickly bubbly feeling) at 17 weeks so I'm sure you will get that magic moment that will totally lift your spirits very soon.