TTC No 2, secondary infertility

oh bubble, I know your story , what is happening about the hospital?

Hi all. It took us 11 months to conceive last time. I have three DS' 7, 5 and 6 months. My last was a twin pg but one of my twin boys died during a botched labour. Long story.

We're now TTC again. I'm an old girl now (39) and resigned to the fact that it may take a while, again. Hang in there. Get treatment asap if needed and good luck!

any other uplifting positive stories welcome!

Hello Roobedoo
I had secondary infertility and was refered to consultant. DHs sperm had low motility and we couldnt afford IVF so we were put on clomid and bingo.. it worked on cycle 2. I took 50mg on cycle days 2-6 and had no side effects. I knew when I was going to ovulate because I felt like my ovaries were going to explode. Our DS arrived and whilst BFeeding him I got pg normally after having only 4 periods! hang on in there... In my eyes clomid is a miracle drug

ah, ok, well here's hoping.

if you don't mind me asking, why are you are on Clomid if you have a child that's only 12 months old? (obviously you're more than entitled to just couldn't work out how long you must have been TTC) feel free to tell me to mind my own busienss!

oh dear roobedo, hang in there. I definitely feel more bloated but it is hard to know what is just in your head isn't it.

LOL at Brian Blessed, god what an awful thought. I am a bit concerned about not being monitored on CLomid but consultant seemed to know what he was talking about and I think GPs prescribe it? Think will still phone the clinic again though.
Thanks LIttlefish - stories like that are exactly what I want to hear!
Roobedo - I'm a bit er, tempamental anyway so I think DP is a bit scared he's going to come home to a screaming banshee.

Hi Katierocket

Don't give up hope even if your dh's sperm sample isn't great. My dh's was completely rubbish!!!! I mean really, truly and extraodinarily awful - they asked him if he'd missed the pot after one test . He took chinese herbs, had acupuncture and took zinc, vitamin C and fish oils. We were due to have ICSI and were told there really wasn't any chance of conceiving naturally BUT WE DID IT!

I know that everyone tells you to forget about it, try not to stress, go away on holiday, move house etc. etc. etc. but I just couldn't. I just wish you all the best and hope that you get positive results soon.

um, sounds super-sexy! your dp won't be able to resist...
Lol imagining you as a mad hormonal Brian Blessed.

thanks again Moomin

roobedo - fingers crossed heh, keep posting and we can go through it together. I fully expect to wake up tomorrow 20 pounds heavier, with full beard and a headache!

katierocket - have just posted on the clomid thread for you!
I hope you feel a bit more positive now something's being done. It can sometimes help of someone or something else is taking the responsibility for your fertility, IYKWIM.

As far as thyroid function goes, I pestered my consultant about this when we started fertility treament and he told me this had been checked in our 1st round of blood tests, so hopefully this isn't as issue for you, if these tests are standard up and down the country.

not sure really - I didn't notice anything wrong with my friend - but she told me about being treated and getting pregnant - all I knew was she wanted a second child - we hadn't talked about it being a problem.

This is what a google search gives:

The symptoms of hypothyroidism relate to a general "slowing down" of the body's functions. They include:

• feeling tired and sleeping excessively
• easily feeling the cold
• dry and thickened skin
• coarse, thinning hair and eyebrows and brittle nails
• sore muscles, slow movements and weakness
• depression and problems with memory and concentration
• weight gain
• constipation
• fertility problems and increased risk of miscarriage
• heavy, irregular or prolonged menstrual periods

oh thank you SO much moomin, your post has made me want to cry (in a good way), it means a lot to know someone else out there understands.
I do try to stay positive but you know how it is..some days are better than others. Have started Clomid today and I am surprised how scared I am about it (keep waiting for head to spin round!) There is possibly a problem with DH's sperm so he has to do a third test. If it comes back bad then only option is ICSI but if it's OK then Clomid, then IUI.

throcken - don't think so, what would be symptoms, I think I'm pretty healthy.

have you been test for underactive thyroid ? A friend had that after her first baby - took here ages before a gp suggested it (apparently the levels were borderline for treatment, but her gp treated her anyway), about a month after treatment started she conceived.

gosh katierocket I really feel for you - as you know, I know exactly how you're feeling. All I can say is keep hanging on in there and do all the positive things that were recommended on the other thread (about ttc for ages then getting pg). I felt absolutely hopeless when I was at your stage, I couldn't imagine how it would feel to be pg again and thought it would never happen. I'll say it again - STRESS is a huge factor in not conceiving (when there are no other big fertility/health issues) and I'm positive that it impaired my fertility.

Please try not to wish your life away - keep up the stress-busting stuff like acupuncture and/or reflexology and eating well (but try not to obsess about every little thing that passes your lips!) Try to enjoy what you've got and put your energies into a channel you know you can do well at, whether that be a project at work or a holiday to plan, or house improvements, etc.

Ttc can take over your life and it's not healthy. I know people will read this and think 'huh it's easy for her to say now she's pg' but do a search on my name on the ttc boards over the last 2.5 years and see how 'easy' I found it then! TRY to live your life as if it's not the most important thing in the world. I don't know - imagine you've been given 6m to live and do the things you want to do that will make your and your family's life better and see what happens. Please also feel free to CAT me if you like.

thanks handbag.
your comments " I now suffer almost 2 weeks of PMT before every period - so bad sometimes that on two occasions," really struck a cord with me. Before DS i was regular as clockwork, 28 day cycle with OV on day 13/14 but now, hell knows. I get period pains for a week before though and it's grim.

Katierocket - I've been refered for secondary infertility even though the doctor thinks I really haven't got a problem - if that makes sense. Been TCC #2 for only 4 months but my issue was that it's only been since properly TTC and therefore monitoring my cycle properly that I'd noticed how irregular it had become since the arrival of dd - having always been 28 days before dd. Coupled with that I now suffer almost 2 weeks of PMT before every period - so bad sometimes that on two occasions, I have been convinced that I was actually pregnant.

GP thinks I'm not ovulating all the time, the cause of which is probably due to stress but recommended that I have some tests and a scan done. Had the pelvic scan done last week - cost £185 to get done privately - which was completely clear. I've also had day 21 and day 1-5 blood tests done to check hormone levels - the results of which I don't know yet. Had an internal exam by my GP too which again was all normal.

So....GP just needs to put all the info together and come up with something...which no doubt will tell me to stop being so stressed. but at least for me, the psychological benefit of knowing that nothing is physically wrong is immense.

Thanks, thats weird isn't it though. You would have thought no periods too. Baby making is a very odd thing

My periods were always very regular, but blood tests showed that I wasn't always ovulating.

Jane 313 - if your saliva test thingy says you are ovulating, then just try to forget about it - have sex when you fancy it (lots of it hopefully) as there is nothing worse than sex to order!