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I want a baby but Im frightened..

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nikkisherri · 18/04/2005 19:32

This is very long ..sorry but need to tell the story to make people understand ..quite a hard one for me to write.

I had my daughter 10 years ago now but had complications. Due to medical mishaps.

What happened was after the birth of my first (and only) child, I noticed I was bleeding very heavily which I mentioned several times to medical staff and was just given lots of pads.

It was my first baby and so I had no idea whether this was normal or not. They went on to send me home the next day with baby.

Unbeknownst to anybody Placenta had been left inside me during delivery and this was quietly rotting away inside and causing me to bleed internally.

I had complained a bit once home about feeling unwell for about week and seemed to get no urgency about it from anyone though they did take a swab and were in the process of sending off swab to lab which would take a week to come back they said.

This turned out to be little done too late.

Eventually one morning just as I was telling husband I didnt feel right, I hemorraged everywhere , it happened so suddenly and in front of my husband. I always remember his shocked face as I stood there and the blood just billowed out I was covered from waist down in a matter of seconds.

At the time we lived out a bit in the country. Someone called the local doctor as he lived a few doors away and it was Sunday.

This doctor nearly cost me my life as he decided to BOOK me an ambulance for that afternoon (I found out some time after this same doctor gave Spike Milligan too high a dose of anti depressants and almost killed him too)

Everybody had assumed an amublance was on its way after doctor said he had delt with it.

So during waiting time I was left laying on bed bleeding and waiting for an ambulance that wasnt coming until that afternoon.

I cant describe how horrible that period was for me my father had died a month before and I really felt like I was going to be joining him. There was alot of blood and it was very frightening. I did feel this quiet sense of this is it come over me. The worst thing of all was just thinking that I was not going to be around to see my baby grow up.

Eventually alarm was raised by my family about this ambulance that still hadn't showed 45 mins later. They rung hospital who were stunned that the doctor had booked it for the afternoon. They sent 1 immediately but it still had half hour journey to get to me.

When amublance finally came though I had gone into shock. When I got the to the hospital it had reached critical and their was an onslaught of doctors nurses around me. I was terrified I heard them telling my my husband I might not make it.

I wont go into it any further but you get the gist of how traumatic this whole experience was even writing about it now makes me feel sick.

Basically I have so much wanted another baby but have been so afraid.

We have tried on the odd occasion but I always get scared and back out of the whole idea.

I'm 36 and I guess I know time is running out for me and my daughter is 10 I would still love her to have a brother or sister. I really want another little bubba in the house.

I just dont know how I'm ever going to overcome this fear.

Has anyone here ever suffered a similar experience and felt the same way? If so have you gone onto have another and its been ok ? I would really like to know as I feel that its probably now or never for me.

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NatureDoc · 28/05/2005 19:38

What a fright you must have had - how horrible. There is a company called Nourish who do a HypnoConception CD which basically helps you to foget past childbirth fears and look forward to a new baby etc etc - they also have a list of people who can specifically help with birth trauma etc - they have a website www.nourish-fertility.com. Good luck - I hope you get the confidence to try again.

PARTTIMEBLONDE · 26/05/2005 01:26

hi nikkisherri ive just read your story and it sounds like i wasnt alone with a bad birth exp i had an awful time and swore id never have another baby after my first son was born but to make a long story short i got pg on the pill worried myself sick for nine months an ended up with another lovely baby boy had no problems at all i told the midwife what id been through before and she was great and she monetered me to make sure everything went ok and now im glad to say ive just had a baby girl and i didnt feel like i had a baby at all it was great u were like me and just had a really bd midwife next time please god u can ask to c the placenta and they shuld b able to show u it intact and they should give u a scan before u go home to make sure they got it all and just remember there should never be ay glots bigger than a 50p everthing should work out fine i think everyone has a bad first time exp but dont let that hold u back or u might regret it and now they no what to look out for and u just make sure your happy leaving the hospital good luck go for it and let me no how u get on

Kidstrack2 · 19/04/2005 20:50

Wishing you well at your appointment whenever that maybe, We are all rooting for you.

Flumpette · 19/04/2005 20:05

My best friend had a bad experience whilst in hospital that nearly cost her her life but she has since gone back to the hospital to talk about what happened and why and it really helped her to move on. Perhaps talking to a professional would help to reassure you and if they know you've been through so much I'm sure they would give you extra care ie. midwives at your local surgery. Why don't you book an appointment to visit them? It's a positive move before you even try to conceive. Good Luck

nikkisherri · 19/04/2005 17:53

Hi Mears,
I am in the UK yes and was at the time when I had my baby but I had had to move suddenly right at the end of my pregnancy in the 8th month to a completely new area due to my fathers death to support my mum at that time,so moved from Surrey to Sussex.

I ended up having my baby there. It was not the best hospital it has to be said and the night I went in they were overloaded.

A doctor did deliver the baby and the labour wasn't a good 1 as I got high blood pressure and yes I did have to have forceps delivery and that didnt seem to go too smoothly either.

Throughout I didnt really have consistent care with any 1 person during the actual labour have no idea if that is normal either.

Afterwards I did have daily visits from a midwife but becuase I had mentioned at the hospital about the bleeding and they seemed to not to be that bothered I assumed it was possibly normal.

I did mention to the midwife who said that bleeding would stop eventually. When it didn't and seemed to get worse accompanied by green stuff and the fact I felt pretty unwell I said to her again and she did a swab which was to be sent off , however by then it was just too late.

My biggest fear is a repeat performance. Or that this episode has left me damaged inside in some way as I had several infections afterwards and recurring over the years and worried that this may have damaged me in someway and may cause more complications obviously very nervous about not getting the right care.

Would love to have another baby but it has been this in all honesty that is holding me back everytime.

I have taken on board all the advise given and I do feel that maybe I will be looked after better if I discuss all my fears with them. Least I hope.

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mears · 19/04/2005 17:17

nikkisherri - you really must get an appointment with your GP to discuss your fears. He could arrange an appointment with an obstetrician or senior midwife who could go over all your questions with you. Are you in the UK? I see in your post a doctor delivered your baby. Did you need a hand with forceps? Did you have a midwife visiting you daily when you got home?

As has been said already, great care would be taken to try and ensure this did not happen again. At delivery the placenta and membranes are checked to see if they are complete. I have to say that sometimes it can be difficult to tell, but sometimes it is obvious that the membranes are really ragged or the placenta looks as if there is a piece missing. If placenta is missing then the woman is taken to theatre to have it removed. If the membranes are ragged then she is observed for excess bleeding. Membranes are usually passed on their own.
In your case, there would be vigilance on the professional's part, therefore keeping a close eye on things. It is unlikely that this would happen again.
You would need a lot of support to help you through another pregnancy but I am sure that you would feel more reassured by speaking to someone who would be involved.

nikkisherri · 19/04/2005 16:36

Hi Kidstrack, very similar you're almost made to feel foolish for mentioning it to them. You trust that they are taking the best care of you and clearly they didnt with you either. Makes me angry to hear they acted so flippant with you too! Great to hear that you went on to have another though & very encouraging indeed. I will book that appt with the Doc and talk about it properly. Im glad you shared your experience I understandhow awful it is to drudge it up too but its been a great help Thankyou.

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milward · 19/04/2005 12:40

Loads of best wishes nikkisherri - as bubble99 says "get goin' girl"

bubble99 · 19/04/2005 10:45

nikkisherri. Go for it! Keep telling yourself that your next experience of childbirth need not be as traumatic and get goin' girl! I'm going to start actively trying in three months time, on my birthday so hopefully I'll be waddling along behind you soon.

nikkisherri · 19/04/2005 08:52

Bubble99 I am so so sorry to hear what happened for you, that is absolutely awful, a truly terrible loss for you. I can imagine how devastating that must be, I really feel for you, sincerley.

Yes the Doctor that delivered my baby missed a small piece of placenta and his defense was that I was the last to give birth at 3am and he had delievered 11 that night and was very tired but
my aftercare was dreadful too eg. I was the only 1 on the ward walking around in a blood soaked nightdress, when I mentioned it to staff was given some extra big pads! Then sent home very next day like that. I certainly dont remember anyone taking my temperature.

I do realise reading these that perhaps things are going to be different next time Just that initial fear that has stopped me.

I'm so glad I posted. I certainly dont want to come across feeling sorry for myself as I realise that many many people have awful experiences.

I just wanted to draw strength from others who have.

This has been the most helpful to me probably better than any counselling.

Milward I completely identified with your post that is exactly what went through my head too.

Bubbles I really hope that all goes well for you all the luck in world.
XXX

Fingers crossed that I can eventually stick post up that says I did it too.

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Kidstrack2 · 19/04/2005 07:50

I'm shocked at the way you were treated no wonder you are scared. Yes, similar experience had an emergency c-section after labouring 24hours. Next morning I had a lot of bleeding but the midwife said oh its fine, not even looking under the bed clothes. I could feel it whooshing out under my bottom and there was just a square pad under me and I could feel it was saturated but again this was my first baby and I didn't know any better. Isaid again to a diiferent midwife who came in to check over me and she just ignored me and said oh it will be fine, by this point I was getting angry and I was in so much pain with having just had a c-section, I leaned slightly forward with just enough energy to pull the blankets back and said please look, her face just fell and the emergency buzzer was pressed, my bed was covered in blood, they rushed me into theatre and removed what they said was a tiny peice of placenta. I came back from theatre to find I was internally packed with gauze types bandages IYKWIM. I was put on atibiotics and stayed in hospital for 8days after that I still lost another 1500ml so they could'nt calculate the full blood loss. It took a few weeks to recover as probably you would have done. But happy to say 4 years later I did have another baby but not before I had been to a pre-natal talk with a midwife who discussed all my fears with me I then spoke to a consultant when I was a few weeks pg and he assured me it would be a safe birth. I had a vg delivery this time round and only had a small pp haemorage and although I did have a womb infection 3 weeks later I was given antibiotics at home and recovered quickly seemingly both my placentas were very ragged membranes and not quite as complete as they would have liked hence the bleeding and infections. But please make an app with your local midwife who would be happy to discuss your fears and be able to explain in more detail what happened to you she may even refer you to someone at your local midwifery hospital to speak with you. Good luck on your decision.

whatsername · 19/04/2005 00:48

Nothing constructive to add, but couldn't read that and not comment. What a horrific experience. I hope you can find a way to move on. Best wishes xxx

bubble99 · 19/04/2005 00:30

nikkisherri. Reading your post makes me feel sad and angry at the same time. So sad for what you've been through and so angry that your experience of what should have been such a wonderful time was so traumatic. I don't know too much about retained placenta, I know the placenta is examined after expulsion/removal but I suspect if it is a tiny fragment it may be 'missed.' Mears, or any other of our wonderful ex or practising midwives may be along shortly and read this, I'll keep bumping it in case they're passing.
With reatained and infecting placenta your temperature would have steadily increased with infection, did your GP check your temperature at all?

I'm not remotely surprised by your fear of pregnancy after this even though you desperately want to have another child. I've very recently been through an horrendous experience during labour when one of my healthy, full term twins needlessly died. We want to have another child soon to give our new son the little sibling he should have had. I had always felt so confident about pregnancy and childbirth before but now, if we are lucky enough to conceive again, I know that my next birth will be tinged with so much sadness and worry and I hate the people/circumstances that have caused this.

You can overcome this. You have come here and talked to us about it. Keep coming here and keep talking as often as you want.

Love BubbleXX

morningpaper · 18/04/2005 21:33

I have no advice except to say that your experience was TRULY HORRIFIC and whatever you do, make sure you are surrounded by LOTS of people who understand that and can give you the excellent and compassionate care you deserve. xxx

KBear · 18/04/2005 21:24

nikkisherri, couldn't pass by without posting although I can't possibly compare your trauma with mine and wouldn't wish to. My bad experience having DD was filed away in my head until pg with DS two years later. Floodgates opened, but had a wonderful midwife who listened, helped and advised throughout my first appointment. 7 months later she walked into the theatre as they were about to deliver my ds by csection as she had just come on duty and if I hadn't been flat out so to speak i would have hugged for giving me the strength to enjoy my pregnancy and have my DS. My only advice is to speak to the midwives and other carers and gain strength from them and I'm sure you will be well looked after. HTH

milward · 18/04/2005 21:24

nikkisherri - what a traumatic experience. Next time the doc should at least check so that it can't happen again. I had a pph right after giving birth to dd3- I thought here's something worse than childbirth & it's happening right now. Felt awful to get through the birth just to have to get through a pph - a very frightening time. All the advice given is spot on - talk it through - don't let it stop you having another baby. I know it is easy to write but each birth is different - your next birth could heal the issues the first birth experience gave. If you want a baby - go for it!! xxx

nikkisherri · 18/04/2005 21:17

PrettyCandles , I know the problem is in my head absolutely so no offence taken. I have been crying a little reading all this so I see how this has affected me even now 10 years on.

I posted the thread to hear from others who could offer the encouragement the boot up the bum that I need to just do it and stop being scared.

Just wanted to hear other stories from people that have gone through and dealt with their issues so that I can take some strength from them and believe me its really working.

Thanks all.

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PrettyCandles · 18/04/2005 21:09

My mum had a huge PPH after she came home from hospital with my db (so probably about 2-3w PP) and ended up back in hospital.

But she went on to have two more children with no PPH.

So it may not happen again, plus with your history the medical staff will be extra-vigilant.

I agree that you do need some sort of counselling. It really can help. I had issues with my first birthing (long story, not particularly relevant here), and didn't realise it until I was pg again. But a session of discussion with a midwife made a huge difference to me and enabled me to go forward to my next birthing with confidence and a sense of security. Also, the counselling and therapy that I had for my PND gave me emotional and practical tools that helped in other parts of my life, including pregnancy, labour and post-natal issues. So I do recommend counselling. The problem is in your head, not your body. Please don't take that comment badly, it's not meant to be rude or offensive...though I admit it's a little blunt.

nikkisherri · 18/04/2005 21:05

Floss I was treated at the time by counsellor as I developed a whole bunch of stuff OCD's abnormal fears, depression etc., all came about shortly after. Im ok now and have overcome those problems. Having a baby for me is the last hurdle I guess.

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Flossam · 18/04/2005 20:50

Was the counselling for PND or post traumatic stress disorder? I think the latter could well have caused the first, sorry to pick you apart like that. Did the counsellor recognise this?

nikkisherri · 18/04/2005 20:49

Thankyou all for such caring response. Just reading your replies had made me feel quite emotional.

I do very much appreicate all this advise its been hugely encouraging.

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nikkisherri · 18/04/2005 20:30

Flossam I have had counselling as I got very depressed after even developed an OCD at time. Although I touched on it I havent really mentioned that its stopped me having another.

Donbean that is a great way of looking at it, to focus on positive things like that.. although I did spend much of the first 3 months with a migraine that lasted forever abd my head down a toilet

LCG very sorry to hear what happned to you appreciate you telling, just hearing you were frightened too and did it anyway does make me want to pull myself together,

You are so right I know, it is worth it for the end result.

thanks all for fanastic advise

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OscarPsmummy · 18/04/2005 20:22

I think everyone is right when they say this is unlikely to happen again but it's true you need to "debrief" about your experience before you move on. I don't know how you would feel about this but it may be worth arranging through your GP to see an obstetrician. He can get the notes from your last experience and go through it all thoroughly with you. There may be a lot you don't remember and this may help to get it all sorted in your head.

SleepyJess · 18/04/2005 20:20

nikkisherri, that is so appalling - what happened to you. It was obviously a catalogue of errors! I have absolutely no problem seeing why you feel the way you do.. I would too..if not worse!!

I think you could do with counselling too.. but with someone who specialises in helping people who have been traumatised by birth-related experiences.. I'm sure your current GP or nurse at the surgery would be able to sort this out for you.. or point you in the right direction. Then you will be able to get specialised help to get over you awful expereince and reassured by proper medical statistics relating to how unlikely anything like this would be to happen again.

Wishing you loads of luck and love.. and a healthy pregnancy, labour and birth experience followed by a healthy baby and healthy you, at the end of it!

SJ x

Dahlia · 18/04/2005 20:18

My God, poor you - what a horrific experience to have gone through. I have no medical knowledge whatsoever so can't offer any advice in that sense, but like Flossam has said, I would have thought that the likelihood of the same thing happening again are very slim. I really hope that you can overcome this! I took a long time to have my second, and its truly the best thing I ever did in my life. Good luck xx

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