To all those who tried and tried and tried and tried...and then gave up...and then got pregnant...

hi I only had acupuncture about 4-5 times specifically for infertility treatment before and during 2nd IUI all very successful!!

There is a woman at Salford University who does it for free or very cheap look on the CARE web site i saw somone talking about it there... I went privately -- best 100 quid I ever spent!!

So, Kelly, as I understand it, you actually got pg when your dh was subfertile while using contraception????? Is this true? Wow! There's hope for me then!

Will research acupuncture......

Hope your appt tomorrow goes well Katie. BTW, did you see my reply to your other thread about pre-period pains? HTH

BLx

Hoep you have soem luck soon, katierocket. i was ttc for a year with exhusband who had a low sperm count, then fell pg a few months later after I had started a great new job and decided to have a break from trying for a while.
Ds came along after about the same length of time, after I wanted to put it on hold, as we were having relationship probs.
My dts came when I wasn't trying at all, actually usign contraception. It can def come along when you are least expecting it! And this sounds liek I didn't want any of my children, but I love them all to bits, honestly! I think the dog is a good idea, just make sure u get a breed good with children.

I certainly think that as soon as the pressure is off it is easier to fall pregnant, but realise that this is easier said than done. I base this on my own experience, been trying for 4 years before we started IVF, 2 failed attempts at IVF and then got pregnant on my 3rd attempt. Had my wonderful daughter and at my 8 week check with the GP I just laughed when he suggested different forms of contraception. However, 20 months later and whilist still breastfeeding I fel pregnant naturally. We were more than happy with a 1st daughter and decided that our family was complete and that we didnt want to go through IVF again, so think because all the pressure was totally off it made things a lot easier.

Oh Tabs, wishing you a bfp very soon......

Can anyone tell me more about acupuncture please as I've never had it. How do you find a good practitioner and can they specifically treat 'infertility' for want of a better phrase?

BL x

just being nosey and Bella - yes stress def stopps things, for example, last month I only bled for 3 days cos I was stressed about DH coming home, then once I spoke to him in the UK I started bleeding as soon as I hung up the phone (weird) and this month was stressed about a HSG scan and was 3 days late on my OV dates which seems to have had a knock on effect on the rest of my cycle. so no stess I recon.

Hi ChaCha - it's ok, I don't mind talking about it - it's not so raw after all this time.

I did have a clue that there might be something wrong. I'd had the tiniest amount of blood in my CM one morning, and then for just over a week (starting about 2 weeks after first bit of blood) it was intermittently pink when I wiped after going to the loo. Only very faint, and doc and midwife said it was probably nothing, so I didn't push for a scan.

I didn't really have many symptoms anyway - just tiredness, slightly sore boobs, acid stomach and headaches. Some of these had eased a little, and some were only intermittent in the first place, but as I was close to second trimester I just assumed that I was entering the blooming phase early!

I did do a test about 9 1/2 weeks, but it was still +ve, so was encouraged by that.

I hope you don't ask because you think it might be happening to you?

Tabs - was wondering if i could ask you a sensitive and perhaps personal question. Did you have any idea that there was anything wrong between the 8 and 12 weeks? Did you stop having symptoms or anything?
I wish you all the best and am sure its just a matter of time a patience until you get your next BFP..sending you lots of babydust xxxxx

Sandyballs - I've found your story very inspiring. Myself and DH had been trying for just over 3 years when I fell pg last year, but I miscarried at 12 weeks (baby died at 8), and we're now 7 months on and still trying.

Do you mind me asking how old you both were by the time you fell pregnant with the twins, and whether you and your DH had had fertility tests done?

Interesting thread. We tried for 3 years then miscarried, tried for another year without success and decided to try and focus on other things rather than "baby making" (much easier said than done). So we both started drinking loads of wine again, eating crap food, burning the candle at both ends, and within two months I was pregnant again. First scan revealed twins who are now 4 years old. So don't give up hope.

What I find rather strange is that we only managed to have sex once in the month that our twins were conceived . All the previous years of far more rigorous bonking yet no babies and then one shag and bullseye - very odd.

Thanks for the swift replies...

I'm intersted also in teh acupuncture route.....please tell us more!

Would dh's stress levels affect things (he's often pretty stressed because of work)? Neither of us drink coffee but we have been getting through a fair bit of red wine and have cut back a lot recently.

first of all you have every right to go down the fertility treatment route... 2 kids does not deny you the right to number of children you want...

no advice except to say I know how you feel... I would consider treatment - worked for me! -- I swore by acupuncture and giving up coffee and making sure I focused on my kids and did not wish away their childhood wanting another... SO much easier said than done!!

Good luck!

Hi all,

I was going to start another thread but then realised that this one was so worthy of resurrection. I wanted to ask also, how on earth do you 'relax and enjoy life' when all you can think about is this all-consuming desire to get pregnant?

We've had the tests, I'm OK but dh is subfertile. Because we've 2 children already we don't believe it's right to go down the assisted route (which would have to be private and we couldn't afford it). Our GP has been lovely, but has told us the best thing we can do is relax and enjoy ourselves (bd lots and listen to my body i.e. don't use OPKs or chart).

I'm finding it difficult not to be obsessed about this. Every month I feel so positive, we bd regularly and yet every month (#11 so far) I'm totally devastated when AF shows. We are blessed with 2 beautiful children and I feel I'm not appreciating them by constantly thinking about ttc. I really, really can't take my mind off it and then I feel so guilty because I know so many are trying for their first child and I think I'm being so selfish having these feelings when I should be grateful for what I've got.

I tried applying for a different job, that didn't work, and I didn't get the job. I keep myself busy at work and at home, I garden, I go to the gym, I take the children out. We've booked a lovely 2 week holiday for the summer. What else can I do?

Tell me I'm being selfish and to pull myself together, or help me find a way to sort out how I feel.....please!

BL

Thanks Katierocket

when you are really trying , you get stressed..well i did anyway( in fact i was abit bonkers about it all i was so tense)and your body
doesn't want to concieve a child in stressful circumstances.it doesn't want the mother to have to look after the baby in a dangerous enviroment. I'm sure that's what it is.

Amazing!
We TTC for almost 3 years or more, can't really say TTC as had ENDO for some of that time and months before and after lap aren't really counted i suppose, anyhow...had my 2nd lap late last year, TTC for one month and along came AF, really had enough and decided to continue with my studies and take up some hobbies. Started Uni again, started classes, forgot about TTC just had fun instead of trying so hard and lo and behold, BFP! Now, we were so shocked we wouldn't believe it until a scan. There was just no way...Funny old life!

kind of happened to us...we were trying for nearly two years and i was very wound up.taking folic acid, not drinking, eating healthily making dh take vit supppleemnts etc.then one month we were going to awedding and i just thought f* it.
i binned the folic acid went out and got really really drunk. sure enough that was the month i concieved!

Thanks very much Bubbly, for my first response on Mumsnet!! Much appreciated....

Had this happen 3 times. First one took 18 months & it was only after we'd started down the route of hospitals & tests that I got pg. It is impossible to relax because it's always on your mind.. I think you have to effectively "give up". With us we decided to move house (instead) & started looking into getting a puppy...

The next time we got to the stage where we thought "no, this isn't a good idea" & there he was!

duranfan, i wish you all the luck in the world, and hope you see that much hoped for BFP

good luck, i know how hard it is when you desperately want a child, we tried for 4 years before we had our little boy, so my heart goes out to you and hope you really have some good news soon