The TTC DP CM GP we will all graduate before this reaches 999 messages

jools I don't post much when I have AF - as don't have much to say at that point! I find it quite a depressing tiome when you can't do anything...

I don't usually notice much EWCM and I def had on CD12 - which could mean ov on that day or the day after then? Never usually have pains either - so am wondering if am actually Ov'ing every month [hmmm]

So then AF would be due CD 26 or 27? perhaps?

am going to keep going with BD a thon, just to be sure

thanks yellow - we have made extra effort - is worth I try I thought... anything is worth a try I know what you mean about stopping tho!

Huge hugs to all of you. Everyone is so low. [group hug] xxxx

Hi Iggypiggy - I don't temp or use ov sticks either (am tempted to buy ov sticks just to confirm I AM ovulating though !)

I am 99% certain that the day of most EWCM indicates imminent ovulation and I generally get ovulation pains later that evening. It seems to follow a pattern, as if my OV pains are later evening, then AF will start later in the evening 2 weeks later.

Funtime I've been on enough 2WW's to know what it is like - time seems to go backwards and you can't think about anything but the next random twinge or loo visit. I can't help, but have some sympathy - can't even deliver choccie as all I have here are Slimfast snack bars !!

AF is just departing here - CD4, so not quite time for major BD action. Nothing much more to report really - am just a bit down about life, the universe and everything - spent hours in tears yesterday evening. Am trying to just get on with life and reduce my reliance on MN before I get sacked !

Thinking of you all though - just not up to posting loads at the mo....

Think am putting a little too much pressure on my poor DH this month... He was so tired yesterday but we did BD... Have now managed CD 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13. I think I had EWCM on CD 12 and I def had pains - but am not 100% sure if they were ov pains... seems a bit early - but cycle confuses me anyway cos it can be anything from 25 days to 32...

I haven't been using OPKs or temping - so when do you lot think I might OV? Is it usually on the day of EWCM?

so confuing...

funtime am totally with you - am fed up too... xxx

oh funtime - you sound really fed up. i wish there was something i could say that might make you feel more positive but i have absolutely no idea about the whole temping thing. it could still be good news though couldn't it? its the waiting isn't it? i wish we could all just forget what cd we are on, i'm sure it would be liberating!

oh and whatsfor - i'm with wasabi on no symptoms actually being positive. i'm pretty sure i had a chemical preg in august and its the only time i didn't have some tell-tale pmt symptoms. - good luck and sorry to hear of your loss too, hope you are lucky really soon.

hello to hopefor - hope this is your month

thanks for all the job comments - i know its noones business about ttc and lets face it, i might noot get lucky so think i am going to forge ahead with this and other applications and just face the music if (please,please) i do get pg before sept.

how is everyone else this eve?

Thanks for the sane advice (optimistic and realistic), I know that I can count on you ladies .

This is the deal with the temps. I usually have 30/31 day cycle, saw the ov. dip and rise on days 18 and 19. Luteal phase is usually 12 days.

Temps have been:
35.95 (day 18) - +ov. test
36.24 (day 19)
36.31 (day 20)
36.28 (day 21)
36.38 (day 22)
36.50 (day 23) - day 1 of cold
36.88 (day 24)
36.97 (day 25)
37.07 (day 26) - today and still feeling v. rough

I don't feel pregnant in any way, so I think that I'll just have to accept that it's not happening for another month.

I'm really fed up with this ttc lark .

wasabi, thanks for that, I am indeed still hopeful. I hope that your cycle settles into a routine again soon so that you know where you are.

When I conceived last year, I was still very new to the whole ttc thing and apart from temping to see when I ovulated, that was all I did, it was a complete shock when got a BFP as hadnt even thought about symptom spotting then, so I'm hoping that it would be the same again. Oh, roll on the weekend when I will know one way or another. This 2ww is so loooooooong!

Funtime - surely if your temps stay up its a good sign? If it was just due to a cold you would only be warmer for a day or two I'd have thought. I am an eternal optimist.

Whatsfortea - don't give up hope yet. When I did get my BFP I didn't have anything out of the ordinary in the 2ww. That's why I tend not to symptom spot - I know I don't have any!! I didn't with my ds either really bar one little funny 5 minutes of nausea at abput what would have been about 8-10 days post ov.

hopeforbundleofjoy - welcome to our little gang. You have had a tough time. It's difficult to predict when you shoudl start testing given that your cycles have been so irregular. I second Funtimes advice - buy some web cheapies and join the pee on a stick club! Based on day 1 being 31st Jan I'd say you would probably be ok testing from early March.

Flintski - well done on the job interview. My thoughts are that you should proceed as normal. Frankly, an employer has no business knowing that you are ttc. If in doubt ask yourself whether they would ask your DP the same question!

I am in a sort of 2ww now expect not really waiting for much- although have no idea if I ov'd or not or indeed, when I should expect my AF. Theoretically it should be some time early next week if its 4 weeks from the end of my mc but then if I did ov last Friday as I suspected I might then it would be a few days later presumably.

Anyway. have a lovely day all xx

funtime, the sensible part of me would say to not get hopes up too much as could be head cold related.

But of course the obsessive symptom spotting part of me would be bouncing off the walls.

Sorry if that doesnt help

Heaven knows whatsfor ! I posted them in the hope that one of our temping experts would tell me that they usually do that if you're a bit under the weather and to stop me getting excited .

Blimey Hopefor, sorry to hear that you've had such a rough time of it. All I can suggest is that you get a packet of cheap dip-stick tests from the internet (as those of us who are a bit addicted to testing do ) and do a weekly test until you get either a BFP or AF. Hope that the Clomid helps.

Hi everyone, just catching up from last week.

Sorry to those who have got AF and hello to hopeforbundle

flintski in answer to your 'how long' question - stopped using contraception over a year ago, but only tried properly (ie making efforts to BD at the right time) for 3 months before conceiving, then had mc, now been trying for another 4 months since mc.

Well, I'll be coming to the end of the 2ww this weekend, but have a disappointing lack of symptoms. At one point yesterday afternoon I thought my boobs felt a bit sore but think it was just my imagination. Temps arent doing anything out the ordinary either. Arses.

But, speaking of temps, funtime, what's going on with yours? Saw your other post this morning, they are really shooting up! Sending you lots of positive vibes!!

Me again

AF just arrived so have updated the list.

Lovelymonster Af due 26th January
Pinkie08 due 30th Jan clomid and DP
Funtimewincies - AF 21st Feb (ish)
Wasabi - AF due 24th Feb (ish)
Broodzilla AF due 26th Feb
Pinkyblue123 AF due 27th Feb
Yellowflowers AF due 28th Feb
Queenie AF due 2nd March
iggypiggy AF due 4/5 March
Joolsiam AF due 14th March
Flintski - Af mid-march
Kittycatcat - AF due 20th March
VillageMum

Graduates:-
Heebychick BFP
BeckyMcG BFP
BoosieBoo BFP
Sn0wflake BFP
Pezzina BFP
SmileyCat BFP EDD 09/09/09
Spats BFP
WanabeMum BFP EDD 19th Sept!
Cindy BFP EDD 7 October

my cyclces are all over i can go up to 6 months with out a period, this cycle was brought on by a drug, so im not sure when to test, before this one i was last on in october 08.

Welcome hopefor,hope that this thread brings you some luck .

When you say irregular, what is the range of cycle days for you? E.g. I'm 28-33 days, with one unforgettable 64 day cycle when I came off the pill.

Hello everyone.

Welcome to hopeforbundleofglory i hope it happens for you soon!

Flintski my db had a go at me on the tube this morning for screwing my face up at him. And i am convinced AF is coming today! I get grrrr every month . Also, ditto funtime re job, i think go for it and see what happens. With any luck sods law will intervene and you will get PG

flintski and Jools it will be great to be cycle buddies. I will let you know what's happening.....

heya guys hope you dont mind me joining you, im on clomid cycle1 ttc#1 day 18. we have been trying for 2.5 years and nouts happend yet. have bd every day since day 9. and have not drank since new years eve, have been adviced not to drink ANY thing with caffien in it. my most fertial day was friday the 13th and since then ive been boiling hot the majority of the time and im off my sleep. plz can some one give me any more tips on how to make sure things go well and i get my bfp this month. i dont know when to test coz my periods are never regular. my 1st day of this cycle was 31.01.09 if any one can work it out for me. Sorry for the long post

Thanks flintski, awaiting blood test results at the moment.

Jobwise, you can't put your life on hold on the basis of 'what if' (I'm testament to that!). If you are and they get arsey, just say that you had been trying a while and had presumed that it wasn't to be and of course you're surprised and delighted . They don't need to know any different.

Go for it!

thanks for sharing funtime - you poor thing, it sounds like you've really had a rough time - presumably your recurrurent mc prob is being investigated now? (sorry if this is explained elsewhere!) really hope you get a sticky one soon.

jools - think i am going to need a cycle buddy as i'm not feeling very inspired by this month - gone all a bit negative. can't decide whether to have a 'throw everything at ttc' type month or a 'don't give a damn about ttc' one instead! sure once it gets near ov time, the hormones will kick in.

on the job front - what do you guys think about going for jobs and taking them when potentially might be pg? the jobs i'm going for are for sept start, if i get pg before - how do i play it?

Sorry to hear that this isn't your month kitty and flintski (congrats on the interview though ).

Don't get me started flintski, the long-timers must be sick of my story by now . We've been ttc#2 for 18 months. In that time I've been preggers 3 times, but not managed to hang on to a sticky bean yet. As wasabi says, I definitely due some good karma soon!

I might have felt a boob twinge this afternoon but I'm sure that it's my mind again, like last month .

Flintski and Kitty - we could be cycle buddies now Surely by the law of averages, one of us should get lucky :D

You know my story, but just for the record - not been actively TTC but not using contraception either during 2008, but our BD'ing was not very frequent

July 08 - chemical pregnancy
Sept 08 (first month of actually understanding my cycle properly) - BFP but MC at 11+5 (Nov 11th) AF didn't reappear till January, so I guess this is officially cycle 3 post MC just starting. Not sure if the last 2 cycles REALLY count though, as the issue has not been failure to conceive, but failure to get DP to BD at the right times !!

thanks for the info yellow, kitty and wasabi(so sorry for your loss - you sound amazingly positive) - i really hope everyone gets their bfp soon however long they have been trying.

I've had a bit of good news - i just found out i have a job interview for something i applied for a couple of weeks ago. it will fit in really well with dd starting school in sept. - got a couple of weeks to prepare.

i was a bit off with dh this morning when i realised af on her way - anyone else horrible to their other half when they realise they have not managed to get pregnant? or just me?