TTC any which way DP CM BT OPK Grapefruit drinking ....

sorry to hear about BFN funtime. But it's not all lost yet is it? Every PG is different and that includes hcg levels.

yellow - way, way, way too early to test!! .

My plans to grab DH last night failed as he went out, got pissed with work colleagues and crashed over at a friend of his. He kept calling in his drunken stupor asking if he'd messed up on the baby front but I said we were probably covered. Nevertheless, maddening. Will try for tonight just in case but think it's too late now for this cycle. So here's just sitting hoping for the next 2 weeks...luckily I've got loads on so that will hopefully take my mind of it (a bit anyway).

Yellowflowers ? definitely too early to test naughty lady! Your high temps look promising though so try to be patient for another 4 or 5 days ? easier said then done, I know?

Thanks so much for your kind words Cindy, queenie, funtime, wasabi... I'll definitely let you know how the scan goes. I just wanted to second something queenie wrote - if I've realised anything by going through all of this since my mc last year - and sometimes it's really been a mill of emotions - it's that ttc is part of the circle of life (oh no, now I sound like the Lion King!) and not a separate experience... so I'm really touched and grateful to all of you for still being there! Thanks for the support guys. x

Hi pezzina - well fertility friend adjusted my dates so according to that I am 4dpo but according to it before the change I am 6dpo - so way too early whichever is true! I mean even if I was pregnant there would be no implantation yet.

Good plan yellowflowers, I shall tell dh that he has to take me out somewhere nice and ply me with drink !

Good luck with the hypnotherapy wasabi.

Thanks ladies, it is very period like although not as strong. Just very edgy that's all (can you tell??)

wanabe - I remember quite a lot of cramping with my ds - it was mild, periody cramping at first and then in 2nd and 3rd trimesters became more "stitch" like which I think was ligaments being stretched to the max!

I would take it as a good sign.

Wanabe don't worry too much unless you have bleeding with it. I had AF type cramps, but milder for about 2/3 wks & I still get aches now at 8wks, gyni said its just your insides stretching to accomodate whats comming & is perfectly normal

Wanabe the cramping is a common sign as your uterus is expanding to accomodate your growing bean

Yellowflowers our posts must have crossed. How many DPO are you?

Hi everyone

Thanks for your good wishes re: Scan on Saturday ? am excited and nervous. Will let you know how it goes, of course.

Queenie ? I agree with Wasabi ? such lovely sentiments ? you?re so right, it is wonderful to share our experiences, good and bad, with each other and get such great support and understanding.

Funtime ? sorry that you?ve got a BFN. I really thought you were in with a chance too.

Jools and Cindy ? good luck with the diets ? its great that you have each other to keep company

Yellowflowers ? how are you doing? Are you in the 2WW?

Although ludicrously early I poas this morning as I had a temp of 36.74 which is higher than I usually go. It was a small internet cheapie and I put it on my bedside table and then knocked it off and it flew under the bed - no time to start moving furniture etc so it is still there gathering dust and I know it would be too early to be positive but still, how bloody annoying.

Also temp rise probs due to dh putting heating on an hour early as he was cold.

Wow impressed by the positive attitudes towards dieting! Never really had the willpower myself, but have the excuse now where i have to eat properly!

sorry to hear your cycle is a mess Funtime. How frustrating!! Was hoping you would be joining me on the BFP list Never mind, next time could be your month!

It's amazing really, I was so negative about actually being pg this time. The symptoms i had seemed so easily explained by other things. I guess you never can tell, our bodies are funny things.
Although today i have been having period-like cramps which is quite scary Really hoping this isn't a bad sign? Any advice BFP-ers?

How frustrating Funtime

C1ndy - am definitely interested in the Diet Chef stuff, not least because you can add fruit and veg and make the diet flexible - ie go out for the odd evening meal. With the Cambridge diet, once you are in ketosis, you need to stay there and not cheat - if you do cheat, it can take 48 hours to get back into a fat burning state. I found absolute requirement not to cheat a good way of sticking to the rules.

It would be a good TTC diet though - all fresh and natural and, if you did fall PG, all you'd need to do would be add in another healthy meal with some carbs - wouldn't have to waste what you have bought

Not sure yet what I will go for - will give it some thought tonight. I've wasted half the morning fighting with my PC and have only now established that the water I dripped on the keyboard this morning has progressively killed it and have had to revert back to the laptop - grrrr

sorry funtime - still hope though. Maybe plan something nice? A friend of mine took nearly 2 years to conceive and told me that every month she wasn't pregnant they planned something like a trip to the theatre or a weekend away or a nice meal out.

So sorry to hear that funtime Was getting really excited for you.

Good luck with the diets and everything crossed for anyone having scans.

Well, I gave in this morning and tested again with a super-sensitive internet test and another BFN . Thanks for all the encouraging messages, but it looks like my cycle is up the spout this month. The only time that I've had a BFP later than my AF date was with the last mc, when I ov'd late because of the ibuprofen tablets. I'm now more or less into the time when, if I have ov'd late, then we didn't do the deed anywhere near the right time.

Please don't let it be 64 days again, like the last time that this happened, I don't think that I can handle that again .

Oh, arse, arse ARSE !

...calm, breathe, think about the lovely seed potatoes which have just been delivered this morning....

Queenie that was a lovely moment! I very much agree with and share your sentiments.

Funtime - um, you are quite late now - may be worth another test? I do understand your reluctance though. When I got my BFP I was due on the Tuesday and didn't test until the Saturday. I just couldn't face seeing the BFN.

VillageMum and Pezzina - all the best with your scans. May they bring good news and teeny heart beats.

Well, I have decided that I feel I need to do something proactive to try and relax about ttc again and hopefully make sure I stay relaxed for the next (hopefully) BFP. I am going to look into hypnotherapy for deep relaxation. Whilst I would hope that stress wasn't the cause of my mc, it certainly won't help to be stressed about ttc. The fact is that I have a short fuse and I spent the run up to Xmas incredibly wound up and agitated over, well, everything. Dh had leave cancelled at the last minute so I had to do everything myself as well as look after ds, work etc. so it was a very stressful time. I'll never know but I can't help wondering if this had an effect on the pregnancy.

I rarely shout at ds but when I do I feel like shit so I think generally trying to chill out a bit would be a positive thing.

Hope everyone has a good day today x

Interesting ! Thanks for the link C1ndy - I hadn't heard of that one - am tempted to give it a try but will do some more reading up on it first. Cambridge diet woman hasn't come back to me yet ..

Things are looking up today - I hadn't realised quite how bloated I was. It is normaly bad pre AF but this time was terrible, hence me really thinking I HAD to do something about my weight. I feel much trimmer today (although still overweight) - so a bit of a relief. Went back to the gym last night aswell and loved it - makwes me feel so much better

queenie i had a massive headache at 4DPO that i just couldn't shift, 5DPO-8DPO i had thrush and UTI symptoms, from about 7DPO i had the creamy lotion like cm. Then about 12DPO sore breasts. Otherwise nothing to note, no metal taste, or nausea (yet)!
Although I did have some mild cramps yesterday and today, and today I felt poking behind my bellybutton area and lower abdomen.

Hey Sparky!!!! long time no see (or hear from, you know what i mean). How are things over on the antenatal thread? I will come over but not until I get to the 12week mark, a little superstitious about it may pop over to see how you guys are in the mean time though!

Funtime thanks for the congrats i am ssssoooo excited it's unreal! If i were you i would do another test. I tested saturday and got a BFN then a BFP on Tuesday!!! You never know

We went and told our parents today and it was amazing, they were all so thrilled and positive so have calmed my nerves a little about the MC issue. My mam is a nurse so tried to reassure me when I kept saying "well it's early days yet" everytime she asked me a question!
Ahhhhh I'm so happy.

Sending LOADS of babydust to all **

Congratulations wanabe that is such fantastic news !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a few people have said, it's natural to worry, but the odds really are on your side. We just have a disproportionately large number of ladies on the thread who've been unlucky.

Waves to smileycat and villagemum - pleased to hear that all is pootling along as it should be. Sorry to hear about the nausea villagemum but it's sort of reassuring in a way, sort of 'urghh, head in the toilet bowl again, but another reminder that I'm still pregnant' .

AF still missing. I don't want to test and be disappointed (and I just know that it would be -ve ) so I keep putting it off .