The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

Thanks MOB .

X-posts again - see, i took the vibes back!!!

Caitni sorry to hear it was mixed news - sounds like you have very eager ovaries. No wonder you are feeling a bit to think that EC may be so near.

Take care of yourself, and try to relax as much as possible (difficult i know). See what Friday brings. I seem to remember i had a couple of follicles that raced ahead, but in the end they slowed down whilst the others caught up. In the meantime i am taking back all the vibes i sent you earlier - and all the "egg" words - your ovaries don't need any encouragement!

Just x-posted with you MOB

Thanks for the eggy vibes (though after this morning I reckon my ovaries could do with slowing down a bit )

Sorry to hear that twin 2's growth has slowed again but I'm glad they have a plan. I hope those babies get to stay nice and comfy for as long as possible but 34+4 would be a lovely time for them to arrive

Firstly, HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the lovely GorgonsGin . Hope you have a swell birthday, my fellow jabber!

Secondly, had a bit of a mixed bag at my scan this morning. My lining is great (10mm), which is definitely A Good Thing. But my ovaries seem to be sprinting away as I've got 6 follies at 17mm or above (2 at 19mm ) with about 6 more at 12-15mm and lots of small ones. I've only taken 5 stim injections so these puppies are way bigger than expected (they plan on doing the trigger shot for egg collection when the follicles are 17-18mm or more). Please can someone give my ovaries a pep talk and tell them to slow the hell down? I was a bit upset, as my worry is that the eggs won't mature properly and I'll be left with lots of big follicles but no good eggs. But I'm trying to dismiss those fears - the nurse was clear that there's nothing to do but wait and see and I don't have any control over what's going on down there. Should have a better idea after the next scan on Friday morning but egg collection could be as early as Monday (double ). I'm also waiting to hear my estradiol level to see if I need to change my dose of the menopur or burselin.

I had a good session of acupunture right after it, although he didn't do anything specifically for my lining or eggs, as they actually need to slow down more than anything! Also told me to stop with the hot water bottle. It was good to just talk it through with someone who knows what he's talking about. There's a very good chance that my next acupuncture session will be on the day of embryo transfer (triple ).

Sorry for the massive ramble! I feel like someone just pressed warp speed as things suddenly seem to be happening sooner than I thought...Hope everyone else is well

Hi everyone

Caitni I am eggsstatic to hear that you are now stimming! I am sending you lots of eggstra special eggy vibes (by eggspress delivery, of course ) Was it this morning you had a scan? Hope it went well - do let us know. I secretly enjoyed all the needles / meds etc as well .

JB Hope you had a lovely holiday!

EI How are things with you at the moment?

MrsH Hope the scan goes well this week. Your pregnancy seems to be flying by - i swear you are catching me up! Have you started your new job yet? (apologies if i've missed a post about that...)

GG HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope you are having a lovely day - although it's not quite so sunny today. Good luck with the downregging.

Bucky Glad you had a lovely weekend away - i am originally from that part of the country, so i was rather to hear that you had been down there - and stayed in such a fantastic hotel!!

PnM How are things with you?

Well, i think i am in the minority for being grateful that it is cooler today!! (Am still a swollen blob though!) Had a scan this week, and twin 2's growth has slowed again, so i have additional scans booked for next week and the week after, then they will decide what to do. By then i will be 34 +4, so it won't be the end of the world if they have to get them out. They are both still breech as well - these boys are going to be a trouble, i can tell...

Thanks for that MrsH - glad to hear I'm not the only one who sometimes thinks they're starring in their own episode of ER

God, it's so sunny...I just wish I was at home sunbathing. Freakin' work is so busy though [sigh] and I just cannot be bothered with it and wish everyone would leave me alone [double sigh].

Caitni - a quickie to say I am sure your DH is right!
When I was in hospital waiting for my op last year I had a drip in which developed an air bubble in the tube while I was sitting in a windowless room wondering if staff had forgotten me. I ended up phoning my sister (a doctor) to ask her if the air bubble was going to kill me and shrieking down the phone "it's getting closer!". She stifled her laughter quite well, I thought...
God, ER has a lot to answer for.

Quick salute from this sharps soldier to comrade Bucky. Well at your fancy schmancy weekend away! And Poole must have been de-vine in this weather

MrsH you can keep your pedant card as your one little ' is way better than the random words missing from my earlier post - I'm blaming the menopur!

Tonight's injection was a bit trickier, mainly as I couldn't seem to get the air bubbles out. DH was cooking dinner and I burst into the kitchen brandishing the needle and saying "it's got air bubbles that won't budge, make them go away, I don't want the air bubbles to kill me" (too much ER/Casualty over the years has somewhat skewed my perception of risk ). After a bit of flicking and plunging from my auxiliary nurse DH and I was jabbing away again. As he said, if air bubbles could kill me then the nurse would have been like "whatever you do get rid of all the air bubbles...do no, repeat do not, inject yourself if there's even the smallest air bubble". Since she didn't I can only assume I was being a drama queen

GG hope all goes well with you and your (hardcore!) downregging injections .

And night night to everyone else. Got to take my last sniff of the day!

I am just dropping in to say hi and good luck to the sharps soldiers . Obviously nothing happening here. Hospital appointment is on the 10th.

I did have the best weekend ever. DP took me away for my birthday to the Harbour Heights (Poole Harbour) it was sooo nice. I didnt want to come back.

Hope the scan is fab Mrs H.

Yoohoo PicknMix where are you???

Higs for everyone else. JB you just have to sign into your account to post the pics. MyMumsnet at the top of the page and then if you scroll down I think there is an option on your profile page. I am advising without looking though so might be talking crap!.

Will sort the invites GG.

Laters dudettes. x

OMG, that ' should not have been there. I'll have to hand in my pedant card .

GG I agree it is probably a smart move not to push things if it's going to make you unhappy. With employment stuff you always have to balance the misery of fighting and possibly getting a bit more dosh against the idea of going quietly and accepting that your pride's a bit bashed. Personally I think that health and happiness come first so FWIW I reckon you've done the right thing.

Happy jabbing, downregging ladies'

Hi ladies

GG yay to hear that downregging has started!! Well done to your DH for injecting you - I reckon I'd be too micro-managee to let my DH inject me (it's that inner nurse thing ). How long do you downreg for? It sounds like you've made the right decision re work. It's hard, but you're prioritising yourself and your chance to have a family. And you won't be tainting your birthday with such memories!

MrsH thanks for the eggy vibes . Oh I bet your DD will be fascinated by the scan - what a lovely way to include her in the excitement of the pregnancy

JollyBear hope you had a good holiday (and don't worry, I also don't know how to upload photos )

Ei hi lady - hope things are good with you.

MOB hope the twins are growing nicely and you're not suffering too much in this heat.

Hello to Bucky PnM and anyone I've forgotten.

Not much going on here - managing the injections fine (quite proud of having no bruises yet) but am a little worried that it's not working. Roll on Wed morning when I can see what's actually happening to my ovaries . Am eating brazil nuts and drinking tons of water and trying to stay relaxed and happy (DH is being great and is really letting me laze about chill out). Keep forgetting to play the relaxation CD I bought last year - d'oh!

xxx

oooh, sorry for all the typos - done in too much of a hurry!

hello everyone!

What a lovely sunny day it is (well, it's lovely here in London - I hope it's great wherever you are too . Lifts my mood no end

Caitni LOL at your "inner nurse" comment. Youa re so funny . Who would have thought it could be so fun playing doctors and nurses with your other half [grin. DH does mine for me (amazingly! he is so squeamish, but i htink he sees it as "doing his bit") I too am not proud owner (user too!) of a sharps bin. I strated the buseralin injections (no sniffing for me - I am HARD core ) on Sunday so i am at day two already. Where does th etime fly to?! I love the idea of a Pimms in the sunshine - I hope you succumbed and really very good for you with all that fruit

MrsH - yes, I am still at work, but working my ass off so I can (hopefully) exit stage left by tomorrow. I am afraid I have given up the fight on discrimination after a LOT of soul searchign and debating. The firm were holding firm and up for a fight. I am pretty tough and not easily swayed and any other month I would be up for a fight, but starting injections again for IVF cycle #2 means that I am lacking gumption and really can't handle the stress at the moment . Also Wednesday is my birthday, so i am trying to sinish before then - I am not having my lovely sunny birthday tainted with memories of redundancy for ever more.

Jolly - can i add you as a frien don facebook, so I can see piccies of Jolly Cub? I bet she is gorgeous. Ho many teeth does she have now?

hellooooooo to MOB Bucky and ei and all the others who lurk or look in. ei - I hope your DH is ok and not takign out his redundancy stress on you and that you have found a way through. It's tough and dare I say it possibly harder or men/main breadwinners to accept...? he will coem round to another child soon and you concentrate on looking after you Thinking of you both.

Bucky - are you going to organise another meet up? I'd loev to see everyone soon (

take care and I'll look in again later

GGX

Hi all

JB I hope you had a lovely holiday.

Ei it's good to see you and I hope things have settled down a bit.

Caitni how eggciting about the needles. I guess that must make it feel like IVF proper IYSWIM. I am sure the scan on Wednesday will be eggcellent and will show eggstraordinarily fine developing eggs!

GG have you stopped working yet? Are you stuck for things to do or have you realised that you have a 10 year backlog of personal admin to do?!

Hope everyone else is well . Not much to report from this end. I have a scan later this week which I am looking forward to (with some nerves). I am probably taking DD with me to this one so will see what she thinks about it all.

hi ladies
just a quickie to say hi and i will catch up properly tomorrow
love and hugs
x ei xx

Hello! I dare not show my face until I work out how to post a pic of DD on my profile. I haven't worked it out yet . It's shamemaking.

But I couldn't read the thread without sending eggcellent vibes for caitni and GG. My fingers and toes are crossed firmly for you both.

I'll pop in v soon to say hello to everyone properly, love to all.

GG so I totally managed to not see your post until today . Hope the client lunch went well (I'd have found it hard to bite my tongue around clients if I was in your shoes!). I was also at your worries about alphabetising and colour-coding.

MrsH god, total dilemma. I don't think I'd want someone to tell me if they recognised me...would make me all paranoid and I'd possibly want to go back through all my posts and delete anything too personal...which would be a shame cos I love MN (and would have gone cuckoo without it I think).

Well ladies, good news from me - I'm officially stimming . The scan was fine - all shut down, nice thin lining (and plenty of follicles already). And my first injection was amazing - totally painless. I was so proud of myself (and DH was too ). Though I expect I'll be ages assembling all my bits and bobs tomorrow - honestly, the bag of kit is better than anything my inner nurse could have dreamed off. The sharps box is the best (my own sharps box!) but am also rather taken with the little cardboard tray and all the needles and what have you (I feel like a walking episode of casualty...).

Also had a good session with the acupuncturist this morning - feel so much more comfortable with him than with the last one. Which definitely helps keep the old stress levels down. We had a great chat and he's helping me feel quite calm about everything.

First scan on Wed morning so am hoping those follies grow and grow...lots of eggscellent vibes please ladies

Big waves to everyone. Hope it's as hot as London wherever you are! Am tempted to make myself a sneaky pimms (the ripe strawberries are like sirens calling from the garden "caitni, caitni please put us in a nice cold glass of pimms" ).

xxx

Evening ladies

I hope the birthdays were good and that cocktails were had.

PnM at that rude woman. How stupid can anyone be? Even if you hadn't had an issue TTC it defies common sense to think it is ok to make those sorts of comments. Well done on the fitness kick, though. Am sitting here devouring home made chocolate chip cookies so could use a jog...

GG when is your last day? Am that they would have you on client schmoozing when you are on the way out. Hey, not long to go and you can concentrate on your IVF. I used to be one of those busy people too but you would be amazed - or maybe appalled - by how quickly I have slipped into a life of sloth...

Caitni Your scan is tomorrow, isn't it? Lots of luck with that. Be sure to come tell us how it went. of your strawberries. My garden is such a total mess who knows what's in there!

Hello MOB, hope all is well.

Well I have a Mumsnet dilemma! Today I was reading a thread and realised that I recognised one of the posters from RL. She's not someone I know now, but we were at Uni together, were pretty close and sort of lost touch (and in fact ended up not speaking for years). Do you think I should drop a couple of hints so she realises who I am? It seems unfair for me to have identified her and for her to not realise, but then I would be mortified if someone I know in RL found out about my secret MN habit. Oh, complicated...

Rushing in to say....

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Bucky & EI!!!!

Hope you lovely ladies have good days.

Back soon to read & catch up with everything!

Happy birthday to Ei and Bucky . Hope you have fun times celebrating!

PnM am totally of your raised beds (I day dream about building raised beds with railway sleepers). You'll be enjoying home grown veggies soon enough (our strawberries are just ripening up now so we've been having a little bowl each night ). Your bank holiday weekend sounded lovely, just what you need when work is crazy busy as well. Did you get to see any of the painted lady butterflies currently migrating? We were in a park in Highgate on Monday and counted about 40 of them in one flowerbed! And well done on the health kick - I wish I'd actually managed to get my pre-IVF health kick off the ground (instead I've actually put on weight ). But I'm sorry to hear you're still feeling down. Please please don't worry about that on here - you never come across as moaning and it's really important to have an outlet for the sadness you feel about ttc. I was sneakily reading this during a work conference call this morning and it struck me as very sensible. I'm not one for "self-help" type stuff usually but her columns generally struck me as good sense. I've had depression in the past and now do my best to try to avoid things getting on top of me again (and I do worry I'll get PND but will just have to cross that bridge if when I actually get a baby). It's probably why we went into IVF relatively quickly - I don't think I could have coped with waiting much longer before tackling our infertility. Anyway, enough rambling...hope you feel better soon ps WTF about that awful woman . Where the f**k does she get off sticking her nose into your business like that? Her behaviour is what's weird. God, I just want to shake people who are so insensitive .

Bucky I am at the behaviour of the dildocam operators. I've only had one scan so far and she was lovely - pointed out my ovaries, explained about the follicles and pointed them out, showed me the womb and the lining etc. She didn't give me an official "diagnosis" so to speak but said not to worry, things looked healthy etc and the consultant would review the results properly (she's doing my scan tomorrow too and am glad about that). There should be no surreptitious whispering that makes a woman feel uncomfortable - it's especially annoying considering how much we pay for this (and that's on top of the fact that, er, it's our reproductive organs doing their thing on screen). Hope you get your results quickly.

MrsH I was at what you said to your boss when you were made redundant. And I'm glad that your daughter got to hear the heartbeat, she must have been amazed! Hope you get a lovely view of the little courgette at the 20 week scan (and can't wait to hear if it's a boy or girl ). I'm glad you're nearly half way .

GG yay for being practically cycle buddies [excited][excited]. You picked the best time for falling off the wagon, though my consultant assures me that drinking in moderation throughout treatment is not a problem. Since I've always been terrible at moderation () I've sort of unofficially decided to avoid it during stims except for a friend's birthday celebration on 6th June.

Big hello to Ei MOB JB and everyone else

p.s. - yes yes yes for a meet up! I have LOTS of time on my hands starting next week

Big HAPPY BIRTHDAY to ei and bucky

PnM - i forgot to say hello to you on my earlier post. I am very impressed at the health kick. After my drunken slip up on Tuesday, i am now purely on healthy eating and no drinking. Feels great (so far )

I am sooooo for you at that bloody woman's comments!!! Really, I am stunned. i cannot believe that anyone would think that was an acceptable comment to make, implying that she thinks you've got "ishoos". In know people can be insensitive and make comments like "when are you going to start?", but her nosy judgments were outrageous!

mrsH - you have to post a picture of your 20 week scan on your profile here.

I am off out on a client lunch today - last one before I leave the building and wash this office outta ma hair . I am now really looking forward to the rest and relaxation of not working while undergoing ICSI cycle #2, although i am usually a super busy can't sit still person and i am worried I'll get so bored I'll start putting my tins in alphabetical order or colour coding my wardrobe in my descent into madness

hello to caitni MOB jolly digital an danyone else I have missed. I'll check in again later

GGx

Such a long post and yet still I forgot to write a massive HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Ei and Bucky for tomorrow

Hope you both have a lovely day xx

Oh, and did somebody mention another meet up? Would love to make another trip into town again if anybody else is up for it? You coming down this way anytime soon Ei?