The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

Morning all, Had to get up at silly o clock this a.m, am now sat in a [chauffeur driven] car on my way to Gloucester for work. Its all glam in my life now . Wish I was still in bed though!

MRSH I'm sorry you're feeling down bout things, it's always difficult to hear news of someone elses pregnancy, even when you're genuinely happy for them. Big higs for you chick. As others have said, it ain't over til the evil witch appears, I still have everything crossed for you

Bucky you've got some pretty good symptoms going on lady! Does the tarte citron live to see another day or did you cave?? Am with you on the panic re work/maternity/sahm/sahd - its something I keep wondering about but my theory is others have had it happen and have coped on far less than me so I'm sure all will be ok

Really lovely to hear from you JB, how is DD doing?

Will have to look those books up Ei, they sound like my idea of good escapism! How are you and dd doing whilst your dh is away?

Hi Mob, how are you feeling? Are you finding this pregnancy much more tiring than your previous ones? Hope you're ok and your dh is still reading bits out of the pregnancy book to you !

Sounds like it was a worthwhile trip to the Lister Caitni, made me smile reading about your 'life' talks with MrCaitni - I find its so easy to get caught up with the mundane ('have you put the washing on'/'paid the veg man'/'bought the milk'/'posted the letter' etc) that its easy to forget to actually talk about the big stuff! Yay for being proactive as well

My job is going ok, bit of a stresshead about it but its taking my mind off ttc which can only be a good thing!! Still no sign of the egg - cd46 now. Ridiculous body. Was expecting big things of the cycle following my hsg, must have scared af into hiding . Tis greatly annoying though.

Oh, and the reason I thought my work colleague had traced me on here was because she's a nosy cow person and I left my laptop open with the Mnet page open (not up on screen, it was minimised, but as I say, she's nosy) when I went to the loo couple of weeks ago. Since then she's mentioned something that I know I wouldn't have told her, but that I have written on here about. My own fault really. Ah well....

Have a good Wednesday everyone. Can't believe its still dark outside! Was up at 4.30, not home til bout 9p.m ish, am bored and tired already! Anyone wanna play spot the Eddie Stobart with me?? Xx

Morning all, Had to get up at silly o clock this a.m, am now sat in a [chauffeur driven] car on my way to Gloucester for work. Its all glam in my life now . Wish I was still in bed though!

MRSH I'm sorry you're feeling down bout things, it's always difficult to hear news of someone elses pregnancy, even when you're genuinely happy for them. Big higs for you chick. As others have said, it ain't over til the evil witch appears, I still have everything crossed for you

Bucky you've got some pretty good symptoms going on lady! Does the tarte citron live to see another day or did you cave?? Am with you on the panic re work/maternity/sahm/sahd - its something I keep wondering about but my theory is others have had it happen and have coped on far less than me so I'm sure all will be ok

Really lovely to hear from you JB, how is DD doing?

Will have to look those books up Ei, they sound like my idea of good escapism! How are you and dd doing whilst your dh is away?

Hi Mob, how are you feeling? Are you finding this pregnancy much more tiring than your previous ones? Hope you're ok and your dh is still reading bits out of the pregnancy book to you !

Sounds like it was a worthwhile trip to the Lister Caitni, made me smile reading about your 'life' talks with MrCaitni - I find its so easy to get caught up with the mundane ('have you put the washing on'/'paid the veg man'/'bought the milk'/'posted the letter' etc) that its easy to forget to actually talk about the big stuff! Yay for being proactive as well

My job is going ok, bit of a stresshead about it but its taking my mind off ttc which can only be a good thing!! Still no sign of the egg - cd46 now. Ridiculous body. Was expecting big things of the cycle following my hsg, must have scared af into hiding . Tis greatly annoying though.

Oh, and the reason I thought my work colleague had traced me on here was because she's a nosy cow person and I left my laptop open with the Mnet page open (not up on screen, it was minimised, but as I say, she's nosy) when I went to the loo couple of weeks ago. Since then she's mentioned something that I know I wouldn't have told her, but that I have written on here about. My own fault really. Ah well....

Have a good Wednesday everyone. Can't believe its still dark outside! Was up at 4.30, not home til bout 9p.m ish, am bored and tired already! Anyone wanna play spot the Eddie Stobart with me?? Xx

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to say a quick hello and say that I am lurking but often by the time I finish catching up DD wakes and demands feeding very loudly.

MOB I was really worried when I read about your bleeding but am so happy you've reached 12 weeks, hurray!

Bucky Any peeing on a stick action from you yet?

MrsH Fingers crossed that all these confused symptoms lead to a BFP.

Caitni Glad your appointment has left you feeling positive.

Big hugs to all, sorry for not saying hello to everyone but I'm knackered and need to go to bed . I'll try and do a proper hello to everyone in the next few days.

Bucky, you must be about 12dpo by now.
How about peeing on one of them new-fangled stick things??

Caitni, I am glad the Lister went well. When I go to my clinic I always find it a bit surprising how many people are there. It's an epidemic I tell you! Anyway, it does sound like you had a lovely evening with Mr Caitni, which is v important I think. TTC makes us all snarling stressheads from time to time so it is nice when it delivers a happy moment. And I think you are very sensible thinking about getting on with things. I have always wanted at least 3 children (although right now I would settle for 2) and cannot believe what has happened over the last 18 months. I think being proactive is the best way forward for all of us.

Hi to everyone else. I hope things are ok and that new jobs, new haircuts, new babies and future twins are making you happy.

I am feeling period-y now, with some cramps and backache. And I still feel sick. Oh sod it, I don't know what is going on. I think I will wait and see if a baby pops out in 9 months, then I will know for sure...

Alternatovely ei can you please use your psychic skills to figure out why I am so flipping queasy? Ta!

Oh MrsH so sorry to hear about BFN, though it is still early. I know you know this, but a pregnancy chart can look like just about any other type of chart until you get the BFP so there's still hope, especially when your symptoms are promising...I'm keeping my fingers firmly crossed for you (and Bucky).

Lister was excellent - DH was most impressed as the clinical director was just so scientific and rational (my DH has a not-so-secret hatred of the Zita West/Marilyn Glenville stress/vitamins/visualisations school of ttc so was most impressed with lots of stats and graphs - makes a change from the unproven vits and what have you that I've been forcing on us both for months now ). I'm currently in a very good category, age & fsh wise, so I'm even more tempted to not procrastinate exploring the IVF route. We'd like three children, so while time is on my side at the moment (I'm 31) it's not so great if you think of the time involved in having 3 children via assisted conception...but, this is to Bucky in particular (and GG if she's lurking), not having carried a baby to term is not necessarily a bad indicator of IVF success. It seems it would be worse if you've yet to give birth to your first child but you get pregnant very easily but miscarry every time...and also it seems that as long as alcohol is kept sensible then it's not really a problem. In the clinical director's words "only give up drinking if you're an alcoholic - if you have one or two glasses of wine every other day, or even every day, then you're fine". To be honest, I was very taken with the Lister...though I did find it more than a little depressing to see all of the apparently "normal" couples who had packed into the room. There were 18 couples in total...sigh...but in general we left there quite perked up in spirit and feeling quite positive (in fact, we walked all the way from the Lister, on the Chelsea embankment, to London Bridge station talking about IVF and our plans for the future and life in general - twas great!).

Anyway, enough rambling. I'm a little tipsy after a champagne and oyster lunch (myself and a colleague took another colleague out to wet the head of his three week old baby at the St Pancras champagne bar - yum!). Best get the nose back to the proverbial grindstone and at least fake some "workiness".

Love to you all
xx

Hi all

A confused post from me today?

I don't know what is going on. I have a funny taste in my mouth and have done since 6dpo or so. Food tastes strange. My back aches. I feel sick all of the time, but especially in the morning and at night, and this morning I thought I might hurl in a meeting. I was so tired last night that I went to bed at 9:30.

All of the above would make me think that I was pg, except my breasts are not sore (unless I give them a good prodding!!). Having taken a dive, my temps bounced back up today (albeit after v disturbed sleep because my DD thought there was a spider in her bed at 4am). I notice that it often does that on 11 dpo though.

And the most conclusive evidence for not being pg? I have had 2 BFNs, one on Sunday (9dpo, FMU) and one today (not using FMU though). I thought I might have seen a vague line today, but to be honest, I don't think that tests are supposed to be read whilst squinting, tilting them into the light and standing on one leg to lean closer to the window. There was no line, who am I kidding?

The problem here, ladies, is that I am just so stupidly desperate to get pg. The world is going to hell in a handcart and I want my own little bit of bliss with my family complete, then I won't mind whatever else life has to throw at us. I just found out that some more friends are pg. I am really thrilled for them - it's their first baby and they will be lovely parents. But it still gives me a jolt every time. I almost (completely unfairly) feel like these people are getting the baby that should have been mine IYSWIM.

Right, sorry for the rant. I hope you are all ok and I will post rather less about me later! I hope everyone is having a good day.

(ps - how was the Lister, Caitni? Are you going to see UCH too?)

Hi everyone

MOB 12 weeks already - wow!! Am sure it felt like a long time to you, but it's flown by for me...it's such a big milestone and I'm so happy for you to be achieving it! Can't wait to hear about the "proper" scan

Ei I've heard those books are v enjoyable! They don't sound like my cup of tea, but some of my buddies just love when a new one comes out . Glad you're enjoying them.

MrsH sorry to hear about temp dropping slightly, I'm still hoping it's not over for you this month. I think you're perfectly right to symptom spot and get your hopes up - I know it's a rollercoaster, but you will get your BFP and a beautiful bouncing baby so it's important to keep the faith (keep the faith, sounds like a bon jovi album title but hope you know what I mean!). And I think you're very in tune with your body, which has kept you safe in the past (spotting your first EP), and symptom spotting is all part of that. Looking forward to practically being neighbours!

PnM so glad the new job is going well! But at the possibility of your old colleague tracking you on here - that hadn't even crossed my mind as something that could happen. I hope she hasn't, or if she has then she respects your privacy and keeps schtum about anything she reads...and I hope your egg hurries up and makes an appearance. I was actually giggling at your comment about the unpacked boxes, as we have indeed got a closet full of them (amazingly, half of one whole big box is full of shoes that I insisted I loved/wore too much to give to charity and I've not touched them since we moved in July!).

Mibbes lovely to see you - I hope Evan's thriving

RFN2 nearly 7 weeks already - yay! I hope the nausea eases off soon, but I'm glad to hear how things are progressing for you

Bucky naughty you, missing the day 21 test! I'm no expert but it sounds to me like you definitely ov'ed, so the test would just have shown some reassuringly high level of progesterone. So no need to beat yourself up about it . The sleepiness sounds like an excellent symptom so shall be keeping my fingers firmly crossed that this is your lucky month

And big hello to anyone I've missed - am still v busy at work so checking MN is a bit furtive at the moment .

Not much going on with me. I've got my HSG booked for Thurs morning and have decided to take the whole day off as it seems like too much of a faff to get into work for half a day (like I need any excuse!). There's a good chance I'll have ov'ed by the time I have the HSG so I reckon I'm definitely out this month, so am half heartedly temping (to see if I do ov or not) but otherwise am trying to keep my mind off all things ttc. We're also off to an IVF open evening at the Lister tonight - I booked onto it yonks ago and had forgotten until I got the call reminding me on Friday . It's our first step in investigating clinics, though I'm going to see about an NHS referral once we move as I'm happy to see what we can get on the NHS first, especially tests-wise. Though the waiting list of IVF in our new borough is long (8-12 months) so reckon we'd go private if IVF is what a consultant advises...

Not really, Bucky. My temp has been slowly slipping downwards since Saturday and is now less than a degree above the cover line. The sad thing is that food still tastes rank, so that is another thing I can add to my list of fake symptoms.

I've looked over old charts (mine are all very different) and the most similar ones were non-pregnancy ones from December 07 and May 08. Of course both of those were a couple of cycles before I got pregnant so maybe my bean is just around the corner [stupid optimist emoticon].

Your symptoms sound confusing. I vote we both just forget about it all until Friday, by which time we will know the answer without having to pee on anything. They wouldn?t have been able to tell if you produced lots of eggs from a blood test. And even if they could, by then it would be a bit flipping late! I do think the sleepiness sounds promising?

Good morning all

Ei it is good to see you.

I am pretty sure I am out this month. Its only 10dpo but my temp is heading constantly lower. And my "symptoms" have gone. Sigh. I wish I could just give up this ttc lark.

Well that's crappy news for a Monday morning. I hope the rest of it goes more smoothly!

oh and bucky yep it is me you have added on FB i added you too so now we are FB friends aswell
xx ei xx

hi ladies
just a quickie to say hi to everyone
the book series i have been reading is the twilight saga by stephenie meyer and i am reading it again the film twilight that is on the pictures at the mo is based on the first book of the series and is also very good not intellectual in any way just a swoony emotional escape i love it!!
MOB 12 weeks already??!! my friend in work starts her firt cycle of ivf after her next AF and she is very nervous she cant believe the success stories i have told her especially yours her situation is very similar to yours aswell as her DH has a very very low sperm count and what he has are not good swimmers so she has told me about her guilt over blaming him etc and was very surprised that she is entirely normal mainly due to the thoughts and advice etc i have read here
enough of my rambling DH is working away this week so i will be hanging around here in the evenings most likely
xx ei xx

Oh, forgot to ask... any more interesting dreams, mystic ei?

Hi all

PnM I am glad the new job is going well. How long is your commute? What makes you think your colleague has tracked you onto here?? I suppose if she is pg she might think that MN is a pretty useful site, but I hope she has the good sense to respect your privacy...

Bucky bleaugh to the J2O. You know, when you haven't had a drink for a bit tonic water can be quite convincing as a faux g&t. I hope the bruises are better.

RFN2 It's nice to hear that your pregnancy is going well - nausea can only be a good sign.

Mibbes I hope everything is going well with your lovely wee chap. Hpw old is he now?

Hi to everyone else. Caitni when are you moving? MOB when is your scan?

I am now 8 dpo I think and I am starting to get my hopes up so probably deserve a slap. I have a weird chemically, bitter taste in my mouth a lot of the time, my guts still seem slow (sorry, TMI) and I have a lot of creamy CM. God, do I ever say anything that is not TMI??? I had a few womby twinges today and my boobs do feel tender, although of course that is a symbol of not being pg too! Anyhow, will wait and see. I know I shouldn't get my hopes up but I would rather spend 10 days or so pretending that I might be pg than to not get excited at all. And if I ever do get pg I expect I will feel the same during my 2 week wait for a scan. Anyway, enough ranting from this end, I hope everyone is well.

Hi all x
Just thought I would pop in and see how you are all doing

Im really looking forward to seeing some new year BFPS from you all x

I am now 6+6 and suffering with all day nausea, I had nothing with DS so feeling rather rough lol
I am finally seeing the doc on monday (1st appointment I could get!) so hopefully things will start moving now

I will keep popping in from time to time and will keep my fingers crossed for all of you x x

Morning all!

Sorry for my absence, seems I'm a bit pathetic and am finding the new commute to work knackering so never quite get round to posting in the evening! Can fully sympathise with your move back Caitni, sounds like you and your dh have made a v good (but difficult) decision. Now, if you're a lazy slattern like me you'll have boxes [still packed] from the last move so hopefully this move will be quicker and easier . Sorry to hear bout af - did you manage to sort out an appt for your hsg?

Ouch at railings Bucky!! Hows your first clomid cycle feeling? Have you had any major side effects from it? Did you get your day21 test done? Job is going ok so far thanks, its a promotion within the same company so I've moved from shop floor to head office. Lol at having a babysitter/buddy - sadly not, have instead been working alongside one of the directors all week so brain is now dead after spreadsheet studying!!

Any news from you MrsH? You must be 9 dpo now?? Any more symptoms (was all sounding pretty good at 6dpo so have my fingers firmly crossed for you )?

Lovely to see you Ei, I love getting stuck into a new book, which series is it??

I genuinely can't believe how many weeks you are already Mob - I'm certain it feels like a lifetime to you but to me its gone so quickly!! How are feeling?

Hey Mibbes! How are you and Evan doing?

Hi to any lurkers

So, you'd think, new job + new year would = bfp, however annoying, there is still no sign of the egg!! Where the hell has it got to? Am on cd41 (i think) today....

Oooo, and I think one of my work mates (the one who is pregnant, who thankfully I no longer have to work with as it was breaking my heart to see her progress) has tracked me on here. No idea how, think she must've seen the page at work when my laptop was open. Did consider name changing then thought, f*ck it, if she wants to read about my mucous, good luck to her....so, hi if you're reading this

Hey Bucky and MrsHappy ! All sounds very promising for both of you - I have absolutely everything crossed. Mrshappy beans can implant later too - I'm sure mine implanted at 9 days so don't give up hope if the signs are a bit later than you expect... I'll be keeping an eye on you two !

DG your wee boy is an absolute smasher, what a gorgeous wee man !

MOB WOW 12 weeks already, how exciting !!

I'm here

Not a huge amount to report, but I am feeling ODD. I have got the most foul bitter taste in my mouth and (ahem) my guts seem to have slowed down. Not sure if any of this is good or bad but I am at 6dpo so if there is a beanie in there it should have started to implant by now...

Bucky you can definitely go for a day 21 test tomorrow. It's only a day out and you should still have high progesterone. I think it peaks between about 7 and 10 dpo.

MOB I can't believe you are nearly at 12 weeks already. Doesn't time fly? Mind you I saw my friend who is due when my last ep would have been and she is getting quite a bump now, which is weird. She's pretty slim so that had me wondering how enormous I would be by now if that was me! The surgery is booked for 22 Jan but am really hoping I won't need to go. Chance would be a fine thing!

Anyway, hi to you all. I hope everything is fine and that new jobs, getting ready for house moves etc are going ok.

Hi Ladies

First of all, Hatty congratulations on the birth of Ursula! (everyone always picks lovely names on this thread) Hope you are both doing well, and that the older girls are enjoying their baby sister.

mibbes lovely photos of Evan - he really is gorgeous. Lovely ones of you (and DH) as well. Funny though, i always imagined you with dark hair (i have no idea why). I suppose we build pictures in our heads of what we imagine people to look like, then it is confusing when they don't look like that!!

DG Great to hear from you. Alfredo is gorgeous as well. He has a very wise look in his eye! It sounds like he is doing really well.

PnM Belated good luck in the new job! It always exhausting starting something new, but i hope you are enjoying the challenge. Here's hoping it leads to a most inconveniently timed BFP!

Caitni Sorry to see you back at CD1, and sad. Big ((higs)) to you. Have you got the HSG booked yet? I can see why you are having to move - you both must be exhausted, and it can only be a good thing if you are both less tired and have more time together.

EI So what books are you engrossed in? I'm always on the lookout for something new to read!! Hope things are ok with you. i've lost track of where you are in your cycle?

MrsH That's strange about your temps, although i suppose it could well be the cold weather affecting things. Don't give up hope for this cycle yet. Have you got a date for the op, or is it dependent on your cycle?

Bucky Fingers crossed for your first clomid cycle. Sounds like you have some good symptoms. Have you made it in to work yet, or still "working from home"?

I see i am going to have to get into facebook!! I don't really understand it, from the way other people talk about it, but i guess i'll just have to get stuck in. Can't have you all on there without me!! Only a couple of days now until i reach 12 weeks. Although i know it doesn't automatically mean that nothing will go wrong after that, it feels like a good milestone to reach. Got my next scan next week, which will be my first "proper" one, so it will be good to see them again!

Caitni - we will practically be neighbours! I live the other side of crouch end (sort of). So we can have mini-wimblewaif meet-ups if need be! Sorry to hear that you are out again, but at least now you can start getting some medical people more involved.

Ei I am glad you are well, but what are these gripping books?

Bucky where are you in your 2WW now?

Hello to everyone else. I hope you're all fine.

I am 5po and my temp is doing crazy things - bouncing around (above the line) but sort of zig-zagging about and not getting as high as normal. I know it could be the colder weather, but I sort of think already it means I am out. Even though I had a temp rise I am not totally convinced I ovulated this month and when I get pg my temps tend to be very very even. Ho hum, I guess I just have to resign myself to having that nasty op...

Back later, I expect.