The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

GG try not to focus too much on what the consultant said as he has to put the less enthusiastic view on the table. i will be your enthusiastic touchstone if you like and i will get my pompoms out and do a cheer for your bean(s) with some special swishy moves for extra stickiness i will be on pins all day waiting for your news so good luck!!
xx ei xx

thank you everyone for being so lovely to me .

I went to the hospital at 8am (thank goodness I live close by!) and they did the blood test. They will phone with the results this afternoon. The resuit will probably confirm pregnancy, because the hormones that gave me the 2 pink lines will still be circulating to give me a blood test BFP.

After that, it's another blood test in a few days time to see if the hormone levels are dropping. If the hormone levels have fallen = early miscarriage, scan and possible D&C [urgh emoticon]. If they are not falling = still pregnant, scan, check for ectopic (why?) and go from there.

I spoke to the doctor who was the man who did my embryo transfer . He was very kind, but fairly gloomy at the possibility that tis was a viable pregnancy. He said i was probably having an early miscarriage and while it was possible to have bleeds and still be pregnant, he didn't want me to get my hopes up. Severe cramping (tick), heavy bleeding (tick), clots (tick) don't add up to good news, despite the BFP. It feels worse than a period and I am not very hopeful.

I really have been a selfish person on this thread recently. I am so sorry - we are all going through a hard time at the moment and not posted enough. Thanks for all your kind words. i am in work, but just to tidy a few things up and then I am going home

oh GG big {{{hugs}}} for you on what must be such a horribly confusing day. What time are you heading into the hospital? Hang on in there, we're all here for you.
Lots of love to you
Caitni xx

morning all
GG WOW!! what a confusing result for you i second what RFN2+3 says that it may be it was 2 now it is 1! you wouldnt get a BFP otherwise IMO! i really hope the blood test gives you a better idea and the bleeding stops sharpish!! IIRC mibbes had alot of bleeding with her preg with evan as did DG so all may not be lost good luck when did the hospital say you would get your results? will it be today? {{{{{{{higs}}}}}}}}
my hand for one is here for the holding if you need it and i will be around most of the day to help keep you sane
xx ei xx

GG Hang on in there - it's not over yet. What RFN2 says is absolutely true, it could be that one didn't make it, but one did. Please hold on to the fact that you have a BFP. We're with you all the way. Lots of love to you. XX

Back later.

Gg I know this must be the worst result for you but hold on to those 2 lines until you have the blood test results from the hospital. There are many reasons why you could be bleeding and not all of them negative. What time is your appt at the hospital?

You poor thing, it really is an absolute rollercoaster. I wish I had wiser words for you but I am thinking of you and will be all day.

Take care xx

GG Not really sure what to say but wanted to give you (((hugs)))
I really hope that the blood tests are good news for you x
Could you be bleeding due to the fact that both beans implanted but only one is a sticky? Dont want to get your hopes up but have read alot of cases of women bleeding and cramping and still having a succesful pregnancy.
Will be thinking of you these next few days x

I phoned the hospital and they've called me in for a blood test this morning, to be repeated again later in the week to see if HSG levels go up. I absolutely sh*tting myself . I can't believe a little bean would survive this!

in limbo. Got myself in a tizz before pressing send.

Ok - it's a BFP

Two pink lines - one a bit fainter, but still absolutely there

BUT - I am bleeding very heavily and have had terrible cramps yesterday and all night. I can't believe this is some light spotting or an implantation bleed. It's bright red and lots of it

God, I am really confused and upset. Is this the worst of all results?! I have to call the hospital and give them the result - positive? - then I have a scan in two weeks to see whether I am still preganant - the 4WW. I am a mess already nevermind another 2 weeks of this. Looking at the blood, it doesn't feel very likely I am absolutely terrified.

I am so upset (again). BFN means what it says. Now I have a BFP and I am

Woke up thinking about you, GG. Lots and lots of luck & positive vibes for you today. Like EI says, we'll be here for you whatever happens. XX

hey ladies
just a quickie to say to GG loads of luck for testing and i will be here to hold your hand whatever the outcome
hope everyone else is ok
xx ei xx

Just a quickie because I don't want the rellies to know about my MN habit, but I had to post to send higs to GG. The 2WW is tough enough in normal circumstances but must be far worse in an IVF cycle. FWIW, neither spotting nor cramps rules out pregnancy (I always cramp like mad when I am pg) so don't give up just yet.

I'll be checking in tomorrow to find out what the "official" test says, but if it is a BFN this time, then next time it will work.

jolly - we will definitely add the "My husband just has to look at me" people to the circles of TTC Hell . Anyone else think of any?

Update - I've had period pains since mid morning and I've had some spotting Jeez, what's going on down there!?! I'm finding this SO hard

I've never had a 2WW like this. I know I was PG because that's what IVF does. It's whether I stay PG, which killing me.

GG I love the TCC version of Dante's inferno! "My husband just has to look at me and I'm pregnant" needs to be in there somewhere. Oh and I think your nerves and early testing are completely understandable. I don't want to imply that I would be anything other than a googling bag of nerves in your situation! A 2ww is awful at the best of times but this must be almost unbearable.

and good luck for tomorrow.

I know, you are all right. Thnak you fro being sensible when I am clearly off my head i am really sorry for being a drama queen . I was definitely having a mad, red mist moment of panic testing and DH has also shaken some sense into me too. I kinda lost it . Tomorrow is proper Test Day, so can legitimately POAS and report in then with the true result. I promise that I am back to normal and semi-sane GG again Keep your fingers crossed for me.

picknmix - well doen on the new dresser! I always find it a bit odd when friends annouce their up-the-duff-ness on Facebook. It's so "look at me!!!" LOL at your Laws Of Deservedness". You are so right and that's exactly how I feel. Some people frankly do not qualify as suitably deserved . i am sure there should be a TTC version of Dante's Inferno with the inner circle of TTC Hell being reserved for the "Oh, we conceived on the first attempt! Couldn't believe it. 1 shag and we got DB! My DP must have super sperm!" types . Followed by the "Oh, you just have to relax" types in circle six . The "Oh, we really want a BOY! I have been eating lots of salty food to get a boy" types also need to transplanted somewhere hot and devilish!

ei - your poor DH and the wanky porn room. i think my DH is VERY glad that part fo the proceedings is over because he got performance anxiety and the lock was borken on the room the day he did it for IVF . LOL at the little pot - maybe he could ask for one with a bigger opened to aim at? 26th April is not long now! HSG are not fun - when is yours scheduled for?

Bucky - how is the no drnking going? Did you last the weekend? What else have you been up to/

hello to Jolly, MOB ready2and3 and caitni who is currently keeping Evian in business, i htink...? Hello to anyone missed.

Must dash, as i have loads of work to do today and I spent most of Friday fidgeting and googling early symptoms It's official, I am a MESS of nerves

Morning all,

GG Please stop testing! Lots of good advice has already been handed out re the reasons why but I'll add that I didn't feel pregnant at all until the nausea kicked in and that wasn't for a few weeks after the BFP. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow for you.

ei Glad to hear you got a clean bill of health. It is sad that you wouldn't get IVF funding. LOL at your DH wanting a bigger pot! I didn't realise that seed volume was considored a sign of verility (sp?) until I got some spam emails, obviously assuming I was a man, and offering in increase my male spillage. I must have led a sheltered life .

Bucky I love the new name. How is your 2ww going?

I hope all you tempers are going to post links to your charts - I love a FF chart.

mibbes Glad all is well with you and DS. A few ladies on our PN thread have been wondering how you are. You should come back - I miss my old FF buddy!

Bye for now - I'll be back tomorrow for GG's update.

hey ladies
hope everyone is ok
GG sorry you have had BFN but listen to the wise words of bucky and all of the others and please stop testing as you know it is way too early and it is possible at this stage to still test negative when you are actually pregnant. i had BFN 2 days before my BFP with DD so it is possible and it is only torturing yourself testing now {{{{higs}}}}} dont lose heart xx
not much going on here just watching CSI new york with a cuppa and some biccies me and DH have been giving it good wellie TTC-wise this cycle as i really dont want to have the HSG and DH is not looking forward to his visit to the wanky-porn room at our local fertility clinic which is set for 28th april he doesnt mind doing it for fun but he seems to think it will be painful having to aim into a little pot (and to be honest i think he is a little offended at the less than generous pot they gave him haha)bloody men eh!!
hope everyone else is ok and having a nice sunday night
xx ei xx

GG , What ARE you doing???? Stop testing woman! (higs). Surely the whole IVF malarky buggers everything up cycle wise? Wait until the date they told you to test missus and if you get a BFN I will fall off the wagon for you and we will go get a commiseratory (sp?)(real word?) drink. I know this must be the most torturous days of your life, thinking of you. xx

PMSL at PnM the skank...LOL . My DP is addicted to Ebay so no judging here in fact I think I may have to have a look later on...In fact I am going to look for a wedding outfit for you and will check back later...

How are you doing this evening GG? I'm sorry to hear it was another bfn this morning. Have been thinking of you all day and only just had time to log on. Hope you're doing something lovely with DH this evening? If you're not, d'ya fancy coming virtual shopping with me for a wedding outfit?? Am scouring ebay (you all must think I'm quite a skank as everything comes from there - I prefer to think of myself as 'resouceful' )

Great to hear all is going well with you R4N2&3 - you must be excited about hearing the heartbeats

Found out this morning (via Facebook) that a friend is expecting her first child in Sept. I know I know I know I can't speculate on her circumstance (as I know nothing about it) but she's written on another friends wall "x and I have finally managed to fall pregnant". She's been married for a year ffs (and I know they wouldn't have been trying before marriage as they're both keen church goers).

God I'm an evil old witch sometimes - I'm not particularly close to her and I think this must be why she comes so low down by my Laws of Deservedness...

GG I really hope that its just early testing (((higs)))

PnM Great bargain on the dresser, Hope that you havent missed the egg though x

Caitni Glad you had a good lunch and hope the temping works for you and that you are soon taking your own gorgeous bundle out for lunch

Hi to everyone else x

Well I am 15+3 and apart from tiredness I feel rather unpregnant lol, just waiting for the flutters to start (get the odd one but nothing regular) I am seeing the midwife on monday so will get to hear the heartbeats for the first time

thanks to everyone being so lovely . Sorry, I don't have long to post so this is a quickie. I did another test this morning with FMU and using a First Response. As suspected, nothing's changed and it is still a BFN . I know it is still early, but I am absolutely sure that the IVF hasn't worked, so it's back to square one.

Gg I'm so sorry you've had such a stressful weekend. This 2ww must be doubly hard for you, I echo what the others have said that it is too early to test and it wasn't fmu. I really wish I could be more help to you as can see how difficult the next few days will be for you. Big big .

Thats truely rubbish Ei about your pct funding. Have my fingers crossed for your tests that all will be good and you wont need any treatment. Sounds like so far so good with your healthy innards and really brilliant you have such a committed consultant.

Lovely to see you Mibbes . Great to hear ds is doing well and the feeding is improving. Bet he's gorgeous and chubby now - can't wait to see some more pictures! Met Dgs little ds last sat - he's a little stunner as well!

Lovely to hear all is going well with you as well Jb and Jollycub!

Hows the water consumption going Caitni? If you've started temping again as well does this mean we get to view some wonderful graphs? Do you use fertility friend? I haven't temped for months, dh got fed up with the beep every 6a.m!

Am loving the new name Bucky - loving Ggs version as well . Am sure your bfp is just around the corner (with mine hopefully). Hows the no drinking going this weekend? Am impressed by your resolve (although do remember even your dr said it was actually ok to indulge so don't put yourself under too much pressure).

Hope you're having/have had a fab time MrsH

All is ok chez PnM - cd 23 and no idea where in my cycle I am. In fact, may dust off the thermometer and join in with Ei and Caitni just to give myself an inkling of when to expect the egg. Had the sorest boobs the last week so think the egg has been and gone, which would be about right as I've been away working so no action in the PnM house. Ah well, who wants a winter baby anyway .

On the upside, bought a dresser on ebay for £45 (thought it would go for around £150) so have rearranged house to fit it in. Can you tell I've found myself a new hobby to replace the rollercoaster hobby that is ttc?

Oh, and thank you Bucky for arranging last Sat - had a truely lovely day and enjoyed seeing everyone (although those who couldn't make it were definitely missed).

Oh GG I'm so sorry you had a BFN but it is way too early to test. And as MOB pointed out, it wasn't FMU either. I'm still hopeful you'll get the BFP you deserve. As RFN2&3 says it's completely possible to not "feel" pregnant and be pregnant as symptoms don't kick in until hormone levels get high enough. Still, massive massive for you, you poor thing...I can't even begin to imagine how horrible this TWW is for you...

Ei I'm so glad to hear you've got a lovely womb and ovaries!! And glad to hear you're getting all the necessary bloods and HSG. But how horrible that you're not eligible for any funding . I hope you don't need it, and that you'll get pregnant and get the necessary treatment for the APS. Please don't feel greedy for wanting another child. You love and appreciate your DD but that doesn't stop the desire for another baby to complete your family. I'm also temping this month so can keep you company . Maybe we'll all get our BFPs this month [fingers crossed hopefully emoticon]

MOB & RFN2&3 hope you're both keeping beautifully and that the twins are happy

Bucky & PnM hope you're having good weekends

MrsH hello! (just in case you pop on while on holidays )

I've just had a lovely lunch with a friend and her utterly gorgeous 5 month old baby boy. A very timely reminder why we're putting ourselves all this ttc stress! We're also using pre-seed this month. I get lots of EWCM but DH suggested it (the fact that he even knows its name shocked me!) on the basis that it doesn't hurt. Here's hoping

Oh GG It IS too early to test though, but i do, so much, understand the temptation. ALso, it was not FMU, was it? Please, please do not give up hope yet. Try and wait until Tuesday now, if you can. Please look after yourself. XXX

EI So please your insides are looking good! I hope that you get a BFP very soon, so they can give you the right treatment. Being victims of the fertlity treatment postcode lottery ourselves, I believe that it is so, so cruel and unfair. There should be a national policy on funding.

Hope everyone else is ok - sorry it's a rushed post.

MOB XX