The Grapefruit drinking knicker checking ttc brigade

ooooh yes please a Christmas BFP would be better than any Xmas present ever

Jools - don't beat yourself up about the potential damage of one glass of wine or a few coffees more than 'you should'. My gynaceologist at the recurrent miscarriage clinic was very reassuring about all this. He said the emphasis is moderation but as people treat / understand that differently, they urge on the side of extreme caution in their advice. His words to me were to not put your life on hold as it could make you more stressed out and to do things moderately / sensibly. So I have one coffee when I wake up and allow myself about five glasses of wine over the week. This is while ttc. If PG would reduce more but don't think complete abstinence is always necessary.

What happened with you happened and it was NOTHING to do with what you may or may not have done (after all crackheads have babies!!)

Good luck with ttc over the next month. I too want a BFP for christmas (as I think everyone else on this thread!!!)

xxx

Thanks for the encouragement BoosieBoo All I want for Xmas is a BFP !!!!

No bedroom activity last night as I was feeling headachey and having another wobble about perhaps losing weight before TTC. I'm now fairly certain I haven't ov'ed yet, but do think that what I was seeing and experiencing is the final bit of the MC, so hopefully my cycle will get back in gear very soon. Still a faint positive on an HPT this morning - isn't it sad when I'm not happy to see a BFP !!

My cycle is usually 29 days like clockwork, with OV on CD16, so it is really wierd not knowing where I am CD16 post MC today, but I'm guessing that I'm maybe on day 3 or 4 of a proper cycle, so will work on that basis I think - can't think of anything better than having to find excuses not to drink over Xmas !

Re alcohol and caffeine - I've only ever had a cup of tea in the morning and, if at work, one coffee when I arrive. I'd not been drunk in ages - the most I'd really had from August was 2 or 3 wines on a Friday night and maybe one or two during the week. The weekend before I miscarried, I had a small glass of wine to celebrate my birthday and probably had more caffeine than usual as we were in an out of coffee shops whilst on hols in Cornwall - I can't shake off the "what if" thoughts in my head, so won't be touching one single drop of caffeine or alcohol if I'm luck enough to get PG again

Right, essay over - back to work

P.s. for those dreading a social life without vino - I've actually not found it too bad. My tipsy girlfriends are quite funny and as long as the event also involves food I've found I don't miss drinking as much as I had thought and have a laugh anyway. I might be saying something else in 8 months

All the sites say - as Heeby's advice - cut out alcohol and caffine. While I know that this is the right thing to do I'm afraid to say I didn't do this so I wouldn't feel too guilty girls. I was really reluctant to 'put my life on hold' before I got a BFP. Of course now with my miscarriage history I have cut out caffine and alcohol completely. I also did cut down a bit on the 2 ww but certainly didn't cut it out. If I hadn't have got a BFP after Xmas then I was going to make some lifestyle changes at that point. Depends how much your life revolves around alcohol I suppose - sadly it forms quite a basis for my social life!!
Also - it took me over 6 months of trying before my BFP and I know many people who have spent at least 4 or 5 months trying so to those who are only one cycle one or two - that's perfectly normal!!

Hi everyone,
Sorry I haven't posted in an age, but things have been a bit manic with DS starting nursery and me going back to work. I have been checking in every so often, this is a really lovely thread, just wish I had time to post more.

Anyway... I am now 10 DPO. Started off with the DP, but that basically went out the window and and i think we BD'd every day between CD8 to 2 days after ov (my opk went +ve on eve of CD13). I don't quite know how we managed it - especially as I have a stinking cold now! Also used pre-seed for what it's worth.

Am going to test on Sunday. Have no idea which way it will go - no symptoms at all this month, but we definitely gave it our all! If not then some extra bubbly at xmas to make up for it.

Just wanted to say to Jools - I got pregnant with DS straight after I had a m/c at 6 weeks, so it can be done - good luck x

Cindy, glad you're feeling better! Just hang in there... x

Yellowflowers my temp started to drop the day before AF arrived then went up 0.2oC! but today has gone back down towards my coverline. I think temps can sometimes be a bit erratic during AF.

Deeja VillageMum Jools Heeby thanks for all your kind words...oh and BeckY and anyone else I have missed off the list.. .I am feeling much better now. I had the most awful headache yesterday but am feeling much better now - so thanks.

Jools goush three of us at 39, makes me feel much better.

Spats DP is very hard work.. I have a 28 day cycle so its not too bad but it is chore after a while.

SmileyC@t Fingers and toes crossed to you and of course babydust to all the wonderful ladies on her too... Like you I am trying for a second baby and my DH is so keen, thats why I am getting a little frastrated this month!! but my time will come ... I know it ~:0)

Deeja My OPk sticks where weird this month, they showed a day later than I expected. But I do think they are good at predicting the LH surge. I am no good at temping as my DD gets up sometimes at 4 or 5 or 6 in the morning and I always forget to take the temp before getting out of bed - do'h ... so decided to not use it. Using OPK with CM checking is a really good indicator when your most fertile period is.

this is now my 2nd month of temping & my temps are doing something similar this month at this stage as they did last month give or take 0.1/0.2

yellow I've read somewhere, probably FF that temps normally drop before AF or the day AF is due, but some woman don't get a drop & others have high temps during AF, I think you need to use this month as a comparison for next month as every woman is different. Mine stayed high until 3 days before AF then it dropped 0.1 every day till AF arrived

Thanks for the list Heeby! Deeja, I use OPK sticks (cheapies from ebay) and agree that it's a real pain trying to catch the surge - it can seemingly come from nowhere so you have to test at the right time; early mornings are no good, late morn to afternoon is better. Last month I tested at 6.30am when I normally get up and nada - but knew ov was due pretty soon so tested again at 12 noon same day and hey presto! Positive OPK. Personally I'll be very glad when all this weeing on sticks and BBT stuff is behind me!

Heeby - This is great I really appreciate you putting this list together I am printing it off and sticking it to fridge DH can get with the program too!!!

Brilliant Heeby - thanks v much! I need to work on 2, 4 and 5 in particular...

x

Hi ladies,

smiley i have a good feeling about you this month, as you did for me last month.

bigbauble top ten tips eh?? well i'm no expert (it took me long enough this time round) but tips for TTC would be ...

1)Increase your CM - thus helping the lil' swimmers to survive a bit longer inside you, do this anyway you can - GFJ,Cough mixture, drink plenty,cut out anything that dehydrates you etc

2. cut out alcohol totally - this helped with my CM i am sure

3. cut down as much as you can on caffiene

4. frequency - the top tip! make sure you keep at it every day over your window of opportunity - see the Deena Plan.

5. try not to stress - it WILL happen and the more you worry the less easy it will be to enjoy the practice

6. eat well & safely

7. stay away from medications as much as you can

8. take pregnancy supplements, before during and after obviously

9. give your partner/husband vitamins or good veggies - zinc and iron helps towards healthy sperm apparently

10. enjoy the practice and don't turn it into a technical must-have - nothing worse for killing the mood

Hope that helps x

morning all.

Bigbaubleeyes - I used to have cycle lengths of about 30 days then after having miscarriages my cycle length has been a bit all over the place ranging from 25 - 35 days!! It seems to have regulated a bit over the past couple of months though at about 29 days. But who knows - hence the 'ish' on the list!!!

Don't know if I'm the right person for top ten tips. Perhaps Heeby or BeckyMcG (who have their BFPs now and are proof that all this ttc does not have to be in vain) are better placed on this?!!

Deeja - yes holiday does sound good doesn't it. If not PG by April then we may seriously go and book something really fancy. Honeymoon in Thailand sounds amazing. I went travelling there ten years ago and completely fell in love with it.

xx

Thanks smiley cat for adding me - I'm doing at lot of reading to learn everything from you guys.

This is a lovely thread - it was nice to have so many welcomes from people. Finger crossed I am not buying my usual christmas bottle of ammaretto - heres wishing for a tin of ammarettie biscuits instead.

Deeja I also only used OPk for the 1st time this month, I used my 1st one on cd10 & got a +ive on cd13. I did another one on cd14 just incase to see if I was still fertile & it was -ive. It came in a box of 7 so now have 3 sticks left for next month (hope wont need them ). I now know my body clock alot better as I OV around cd13 to cd14 so next month I wont use one till cd12.
So you can use them to you advantage once you know your body a little better & get two months out of one box plus it really put my mind at rest this month knowing that I had actually OV'd & my temps backed it up

Morning to you all feeling good this morning boobs still mega sore but cramps seems to have settled a little had a dip in my temps yesterday but they were quite high again this morn so feeling hopefull, although temps are about the same as they were this time last month so doesn't really mean alot yet but a least they are not dipping
I have added the list as it looks like it needs a bit of updating & a few coming up for testing soon
bigbauble think you said you were due AF on 2nd Dec so have added you in the list, if wrong please feel free to update

Mylittlebubble AF due 10th - 15th Nov
Whitebeaches AF due 17th - 21st
Elligant AF due 27th Nov DP
Yellowflowers AF due 27th Nov
JClaire AF due 28th Nov
Sans04 AF due 28th Nov
BoosieBoo AF due 30th Nov DP
Cindy AF due 1 December DP
spats due 7th-? nov
Smileycat AF due 1st Dec DP
Bigbaubleeyes AF due 2nd Dec
Queenie1 - AF due 2nd(ish) Dec
Pinkie08 due 5th dec
Deeja AF due 9th Dec DP
Wasabi AF 16th dec
Wanabemum AF due 18th/19th Dec DP
VillageMum AF due 23 December DP
Funtimewincies AF due 23rd December
Pezzina AF due 25th December DP

Heebychick BFP
Becky McG BFP

Hello aal just checking in. My I thought I was doing well to calculate ovulation dates and use a tester - I have a lot of learning.

Can I be cheeky and ask anyone to post a top ten tips?

I am no good at this, i feel i am pregnant and keep sympton spotting for example today by ut has felt taut and ive definately felt little tugs and ripples - this is crazy.

I am very bad queenie - I have already done an early test in magic hope! I gues i will learn to have to be patient

Queeni are you a 28 cycle girl?

I don't know, I know it's very self indulgent and early days at day 14 but I just don't feel very fertile this month. Probably sounds like a lot of nonsense....but last month I felt really up for it and had loads of EWCM. This month I'm grumpy, just keep producing creamy M and really am not in the mood. I don't think it's psychological - but maybe it is.

Well I really hope that we get some BFP's here soon...that will really cheer me up.

Queenie last month I cad my coil removed at day 12 and had had sex at day 10 and had sore boobs for the whole two weeks after and felt sick and really felt like I might be pregnant even though I knew I really couldn't be. Ones psyche plays a lot of tricks, or maybe I just go round normally just not noticing my body. A holiday to China sounds very exciting BTW. Went to Thailand for my honeymoon in September and it was a totally wonderful place. Not the same as China but heading in the right direction!

really sorry to hear AF appears to be on its way yellowflowers

To throw my two pennies worth in about OPK sticks...I used them last month but used a whole pack by CD14 and couldn't justify spending more money on more of them so I didn't bother. DH and I were talking of going to China for a holiday last night (in our dream world where we have loads of cash and also our way of dealing with failing on the ttc front) and I worked out that if I'd saved all the money I spent on PG tests, pregnacare supplements and OPK tests I would be half way there to affording the trip!!!! Remind me of that when I am tempted to buy half a dozen PG tests in the next few days!!!

Smileycat - it's so hard not to symptom spot isn't it...I've been wondering today. Feel very tired, swear to god my boobs feel fuller and look more veiny and I've had cramps and twinging down below too (for quite a few days now). But only CD23 and AF not due til this time next week. So the am I / aren't I games and agonies will continue...

xx

Heeby I'm not due till Monday but I have a Christmas girls party on Monday evening so I'm tempted to test early if my temps haven't done a dip by then so that if I get a BFN I can have a few drinks to drown my sorrows & have a good time at the party. I guess I'll know over the wkend if its looking good my temps dropped 0.1 each day for 3 days leading upto AF last month so if its still high on Sunday I might test then or leave it till Monday morning if its looking a bit iffie