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TTC#2: repeated faint +ve tests followed swiftly by AF

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hobnob57 · 05/10/2008 20:27

I'm not sure whether I'm on the right board here, but wondered if anyone had any ideas on this or has been through anything similar.

LO#1 was conceived with pretty much no effort required. After she was born, I didn't feel ready for #2 for a while due to her having reflux issues, chronic tiredness on my part and also my SPD took flipping ages to settle down again. So, when she was 17mo we thought we'd try again. 5 months later, Ive had 2 months where I've had faint positive pregnancy tests followed by 'AF', and I'm pretty sure it's about to happen again. The first time it happened I definitely felt pg - even started the bottomless appetite/raging thirst thing. It took 3 days, but then massive cramps and huge AF arrived. The second time I tested early at the first sign on brownish discharge, hoping it was implantation but no, it wasn't. Got a faint +ve though. I've felt pg other months too, but haven't tested to confirm before AF arrived. I've had a 3rd faint +ve today but feel that AF is imminent on it's due day tomorrow.

Am I having implantation issues, and if so, what can cause those? I had an emcs 1st time round. I get pains up my midline before and during periods since then - don't know if that's just a symptom of my separated abs or something more sinister. I'm just exasperated that I can't get excited about these positive tests! I'm beginning to believe that it'll never happen again, and everyone is now quite publicly saying 'isn't it time for #2 yet?' and we have no answer to that...

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HeadFairy · 12/10/2008 19:47

I hope you're not losing the pregnancy. I don't think I'm having implantation bleeding though, I think this is breakthrough bleeding. I had implantation bleeding with ds and it was brown, at approximately the time my period was due. this time I think the brown spotting I had for two days from cd 28 was the implantation bleeding. Were the two tests the same brand? I only ask because different brands require different levels of hcg to trigger a positive test result, so you could easily get a fainter line on a different test if you'd had a strong line on a previous test. I'm no doctor but I imagine a big glass of water before a test can effect it too, by diluting the amount of hcg in your urine so don't lose heart just yet. Hope things turn out well for you! x

hopefulnicci · 12/10/2008 16:59

Thanks so much for your response, i'm just off to work but will try and check in later. It's the second tests that are a fainter bfp guess that'll mean i'm losing the pregnancy. I really hope it's not. guess only time will tell. It's good to know implantation bleeding can be red also. Goodluck x

HeadFairy · 12/10/2008 16:52

Hiya hopefulnicci...

The way things were with me is that I was a couple of days late for my period. I'm usually pretty regular so that alerted me straight away, even ignoring all the nausea I was feeling. I was spotting brown blood for two days from cd 28 and then on cd 30 I had some red blood. That stopped in the evening, then on cd 31 I had another morning of red blood. Today, cd32 I've had only the tiniest amount, which is now turning brown.

I tested myself on the clearblue digital, partly because I was sent one free to try by mn , so I didn't have to have that "is there a line there or not" agony you seem to have.

I'm going to make an appt to see the doc on thursday, I still feel pg, I've been nauseas all day and my boobs still feel odd. I might buy another test before then, I don't know, depends if I get a chance. I do know when I tested with a traditional test when I was pg with ds I had a very strong blue line the second the pee hit the stick on cd 32. In a way I'm almost scared to try....

I've always read on here a line is a line no matter how faint but I am a bit confused when you say the line is faint now, does that mean you've done a second test or the line on the original test is faint? If it's the second one then I'd ignore that as they do fade over time I think.

hth, good luck

hopefulnicci · 12/10/2008 09:21

Headfairy, i've been reading your posts with gr8 interest. Congratulations with ur bfp! wondered if you could tell me a little more about the pattern of your bleeding. i was convienced i was pregnant and 2 days ago although i started spotting mainly on wiping i got a bfp on a FRER. Problemis i've continued to bleed, still not enough to fill a tampon, but now hpt appears only v faint second line, husband says bfn. blood now red, what colour was ur bleeding and how long did it last, sorry for all the questions, just clutching at straws, i'm currently 11 dpo. (confused) x

HeadFairy · 11/10/2008 22:47

Thanks for that realitygap... that's reassured me a lot. Bleeding has stopped again too, still keeping everything crossed though...

Good luck to all those waiting for their bfps!

RealityGap · 11/10/2008 21:37

HeadFairy,

the digial pregnancy tests always take ages to come up no matter "pregnant" you are. And it isn't worth even taking the stick out and looking at it as it can be faint again with a strong positive

The symptoms all point towards things looking good - hope it works out for you

wishing BFP for everyone looking for them x

HeadFairy · 11/10/2008 20:31

Thanks so much for the crossed fingers, it must have worked because I got a +ive test this morning (cd 32) with a clear blue digital. I did carry on with some bleeding, but it seems to have stopped now. Still feeling pregnant, boobs feel tingly and have been nauseous all day, so I'm keeping everything crossed. What gave me the heebeegeebees was that it took ages for the pregnant indication to come up, I don't know if that's normal for digital pregnancy tests. I used a standard line test last time I was pg, and a really strong blue line appeared the second the pee hit the stick. That always reassured me, the thought that there was tons of pregnancy hormones to give such a strong positive result. I might have to go and buy an old fashioned test tomorrow, mind you, I'm feeling so sick that I'm hoping it's a good sign.

hobnob57 · 11/10/2008 19:54

HeadFairy - any developments? I've got my fingers crossed for you!

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HeadFairy · 10/10/2008 19:47

Gah! Blooming period has stopped dead. It was a tiny amount, not enough to fill a tampon (sorry 'bout that) so now I'm back to thinking i'm pg.

hobnob57 · 10/10/2008 15:38

I was going to add Rosehearty that my first pg showed an IMMEDIATE and unmistakable blue line when I did the test at 2 days after my period was due.

But then I've just spoken to a friend who got negative tests for 3 weeks but was actually pregnant all that time.

So I guess we can't win...

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hobnob57 · 10/10/2008 15:33

I know 100% of what you've said is right. I was just using MN to indulge my neuroses. Sad thing is, I no longer get excited about positive tests nor even dream about due dates. DH has banned me from buying an ovulation kit so we are resolving just to take each month as it comes.... again.

HeadFairy, the only reason I knew about these pgs was because I tested a day early. My period when I was 3 days late was more heavy and painful than normal, but the other 2 haven't been (these bleeds were more or less just a day late).

Don't know much about fertility post-mc I'm afraid. I think it varies wildly.

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HeadFairy · 10/10/2008 13:30

Roseability, I hope things work out right for you and it sticks this time.

I've never experienced this chemical pregnancy thing, how do I know if this is what's happened to me?

Is the period after a chem pg particularly heavy?

I know that after mc many women experience a slight surge in their fertility, is this also the case with chem pg?

So many questions....

roseability · 10/10/2008 13:22

hobnob - I know your reasoning.

Part of me wants to test, to know, so that if it doesn't stick again I have evidence that something might be wrong.

But then is there something wrong if you have repeated chemical pregnancies? Or is it, whilst terribly upsetting, quite natural? Of course I mean that as no disrespect as I know there is nothing 'natural' feeling about it when you go through it. But if there is a 50% statistic, then that is a 50% chance it won't stick each time you conceive. One month, one will stick I'm sure.

And whilst I hated people saying 'at least you know you can get pregnant' (with a passion!) are more pressing problems with conception a lack of ovulation or poor sperm quality? I don't know, just waffling!

I suppose i'm just trying to be supportive but I worry I am in danger of trivialising chemical pregnancy. I know how horrible and sould destroying it is when you know, even for just a day or two you are pregnant, and then it is all taken away from you. You still visualise 'a baby', work out due dates etc

It sucks ttc soemtimes. I just hope the sex is good!

HeadFairy · 10/10/2008 12:04

This is very interesting for me. I didn't know about the 50% statistic for chemical pregnancies. I've been convinced I was pg, I was three days late, been having brown spotting for days and loads of pains, plus boobs keep feeling like I'm getting a milk let down and nipples are really dark. However have just started period, so perhaps I had a chemical pregnancy too. How very weird, it had never occured to me these things were possible.

hobnob57 · 10/10/2008 11:58

I know you're right smallone, but I still think that I'll be doing the same this month. In a twisted way I really want to know that I'm not out of my head thinking I'm pregnant and there really is something there. As I said before I'm also paranoid that there's a scarring problem with my uterus that may be causing this (I know I'm pulling at straws - that's why I'd never admit it to a GP, but by the same token I want 'evidence' in case I ever do!).

Hmmm. When you type out your paranoias they really sound futile.

I'm so impressed with you rosehearty!

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smallone · 09/10/2008 09:21

I think that all these v sensitive tests have alot to blame for all this heart ache. There is alot to be said for roseability's approach - although I wouldn't hold out that long

I think testing with a high level test (clearblue) on the day of your longest ever cycle - CD32 for me, but usual cycle 28. Should give you more reliable results.

Some of these fertilisations are never meant to implant, and early losses are natures way of protecting us, we shouldn't have to beat ourselves up about them.

roseability · 08/10/2008 21:32

forgot to add I am very sorry for what you have been through hobnob. It is so tough and such an emotional rollercoster

roseability · 08/10/2008 21:30

Still no period, so one week late tomorrow (I have a pretty regular 28 day cycle)

I don't feel nauseous anymore but have very sore boobs and need to pee a lot!

I am not testing until next week. I went through so much stress with the 2 chemical pregnancies. I refuse to spend a fortune on tests and squint at lines!

My plan is to buy a digital next week. Just pregnant or not pregnant - NO LINES! If I am preggers a test will definatley show positive by then. If I start bleeding before then I will just presume my period was late. In a twisted way I think if I miscarry but I am 6 weeks, I might be taken more seriously by my GP. Some people don't view chemical pregnancies as true miscarriages

The waiting is killing me though. I am not a laid back person and not sleeping very well

hobnob57 · 08/10/2008 18:51

any news rosehearty?

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hobnob57 · 06/10/2008 20:32

Hmmm I've heard that I think. I've a feeling I had thyroid tests done last Xmas when I was feeling particularly knackered and they were 'normal' then so I don't expect things will have changed since then (12 months after birth). I think I will ask GP next time I'm there though.

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anonymxxx · 06/10/2008 20:14

Hey Hobnob. I know that pregnancy can change your thyroid activity which can cause secondary infertility. Don't know however, if and how that influences implantation. Sorry to hear that AF arrived.

hobnob57 · 06/10/2008 19:55

Sorry, that's Roseability!

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hobnob57 · 06/10/2008 19:54

Fingers crossed for you - sounds promising! My symptoms disappeared about a week ago and AF arrived today as expected. So that's chemical pregnancy #3. If I ever do get a nice BFP rather than a sketchy one then I'll be paranoid about MC before 12 weeks I think! I hope that you manage to keep up your positive outlook Rosehearty. I do think that you get a 'feeling' about how things are going so I reckon you're on a winner!

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roseability · 06/10/2008 14:20

Hi HobNob

I had 2 consecutive chemical pregnancies in July/August

At the moment my period is 4 days late and I have lots of symptoms. I am convinced I am pregnant again but dare not test. I spent an absolute fortune on HPTs and spent too much time squinting at barely there pink lines in the window, I can't face going through it again.

It is so tough. Have fingers crossed for you (and myself).

Don't know when I am going to pluck up the courage to test!

ShowOfHands · 06/10/2008 08:59

I do admire you. I have a 17 month old and can't even contemplate trying again. I would imagine that having finally taken the plunge to try, the frustration is increased.

It took me 13 months, a chemical preg and miscarriage to conceive my dd. The idea of going through it again is maddening.

I'll look out for your 'I'M PREGNANT' thread with bated breath.