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Thread for those fed up of pregnant friends... actually pregnant women everywhere... while they themselves have been TTC for ages or keep having miscarriages.

412 replies

GordonTheGopher · 24/09/2008 08:24

I know it's not very PC. But I can't help but be really jealous. Just this morning I got an email off another friend telling me she's pregnant - first month of trying.

That makes 6 friends who are pregnant. I have been TTC no 2 for two years. I had a MMC last May and an early MC last week.

I do try and be happy for them. But in reality I'm not.

Am I normal? Anyone care to join me?

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Treats · 13/10/2008 16:49

Hi everyone. Just to say that my weekend was fine. Our friends were lovely, and their DD was in turns lovely and a bit of a nightmare which reminded me that being new parents is hard too and I shouldn't feel too envious of them. AF arrived with a vengeance on Saturday morning, but apart from a few cramps in the early morning, didn't bother me too much.

I couldn't help having a few tears after they left, but apart from that I did genuinely have a good weekend, so it wasn't too bad.

Depressed about being at the start of my 12th ttc cycle though.........

ontheup · 13/10/2008 12:45

Hi everyone - I havent had internet access for aaaages now so am catching up - so many posts! Glad to be amoung like minded ladies - we waved off a colleague on Friday who's baby is due when mine would have been. Happy for her but glad she's gone - no more bumps and constant reminders of what could have been. Ive got no battery left so havve to go but let's hope for sticky beans for all of us....

ray81 · 12/10/2008 15:15

hi Gordon,

You poor thing, i had 2 mc 6 months apart too and it was so so hard i realy feel for you.

How long did it take for you to fall with ds?
i must admit i have dd and i was one of those smug people who wasnt even trying and it was such a shock to me perhaps this is payback for me !!!

8 friends that must be awful, i do completely understand and know how you feel its just so hard to be happy for people when you so want it yourself.

well af still hasnt arrived i'm not due til tues but was hoping would come early, now i have tested and know it was Bfn just want to get on with next month. Sods law though that whrn you want something it never happens typical realy.!!!

GordonTheGhoul · 12/10/2008 06:36

Oh ray I'm so sorry you're having such a bad time. I've had the "relax and it will happen to you" line many many times - it really doesn't help does it??

My situation is nowhere near as bad as most of the ladies on here - this thread has definitely helped me put things into perspective!

I had ds 2 and a half years ago. I got the depo shot for contraception which was a big mistake as it took me almost a year of coming off it to get periods again - and another 6 months to start ovulating!

Had a missed MC in May this year then an early MC three weeks ago.

I started this thread because I currently have 8 friends who are all pregnant with their second babies, one with her third, and it's doing my head in!!

ray81 · 11/10/2008 15:57

hi gordon,

I think you are right i am surrounded by insensitive people that think they know everything. I feel very depressed today and just want to sleep, i'm also on clomid so i think it may be that is causing it.

DD doesnt realy ask anything although we try to tell her as much as we can and she knows we want another baby. She would love to have a brother or sister and i feel like a real failure not being able to have one.
People keep telling me that here are people out there that have been trying for years and then forget about it and fall Pg, i know they are trying to help but it doesnt.
Just seen my bro nd hes just got a girl pg without even trying on a one night stand FFS. i hate life at the moment i realy do.
why everyone else and not me!!!

whats your situation gordon

GordonTheGhoul · 10/10/2008 19:56

Evening ladies. I'm so pleased this thread is plodding along without disappearing - I like the way we all pop in and rant and catch up.

Sarah76 - were you born in 76? Was a great year! I was born in the height of the heatwave.
You must have had your mc around the same time as me. My temp has gone up over the last few days so hopefully that means I've ovulated and af will arrive soon and I can start trying again.

pinkie fingers crossed for you. I don't know much about clomid but I hope it works for you this cycle - I gather it's supposed to help you ovulate?

Ray welcome - sounds like you're surrounded by some insensitive people. Unfortunately pregnancy does that to some people. Sorry you've been trying so long - does your daughter ask questions?

Treats giving you a non-mn ((((hug)))). Be strong this weekend - she sounds like a nightmare. It's a pain having friends like her - who seem perfect. Try to remember that she's not. Hopefully she'll be tactful.

I'm feeling ok about everything. I'm just not talking about babies / pregnancy to anyone - that's the best way for me to deal with it.

Treats · 10/10/2008 14:30

Just hopping on here for a quick "Raaaaah!!!" before the weekend.

We're going to be spending the weekend with DH's best friend/ best man and his wife. They're both lovely and have been very loyal and supportive friends for a long time. They know that we've been ttc for a year.

But they have a 9 month old daughter, conceived last year after only 6 months. And my AF is due tonight or tomorrow. I just know that I will be suffering dreadful period pains at exactly the moment when someone says or does something (unintentionally) to remind me of the fact that they've been successful and we haven't.

What makes it worse is that she's a Gwyneth Paltrow lookalike with a fabulously successful career, and - although I really do like her - she can never QUITE avoid pointing out how brilliant her life is.

It almost wouldn't be so bad if they were my friends, rather than DH's. But he has been best friends with this guy since they were 13, and he keeps hearing how much he's enjoying being a dad, and there's the unspoken thing that he wishes his best mate could share the experience. I actually get more upset when I think about DH missing out on being a dad, than me missing out on being a mum, and seeing his best mate with their daughter is very hard.

I am practising my most dazzling smile and have made sure that my very best outfit is ready to wear tomorrow. I will get through it but it'll be very hard.

Posting this here because I know you'll all understand. Thanks for being here.

ray81 · 10/10/2008 12:47

Hello can i join in please.

God how refreshing to hear that i am not the only one with a Green eyed monster.
I am also a pregnant woman magnet cannot get away from it, feel like if you know me then you are bound to get PG.
My sister is PG although had 2 mc before this one so felt for her but she still fell within the year i've been trying for 4 and half years.
another friend is pG and she tried for 2 years and was realy glad for her but finding that more and more i cant stand to be around her. saw her yesterday and she was flashing her scan pics about and i wanted to slap her.
Then my closest friend is PG after one month of trying and having sex once, she has DD of 2 and has had 2 abortions in the past and i think why her? she didnt want 2 babies why should she have any more. How bitter is that. and then shes trying to tell me to relax and i want to hit her too.

I do have a DD who is nearly 7 and i love her to bits obviously but so desperate for another and for her not to be an only child.
I just ahte PG women whenever me and DH go anywhere i'm like see there all over the place and they hunt me down just to make me feel bad. Ha ha paraniod now to.
So sorry for everyones losses on here i have also had 2 mc whilst TTC but nothing for nearly 3 years and i know how devasting it is.

Baby dust to all.

pinkie08 · 10/10/2008 11:37

Hi to all,

Well AF officially disappeared yesterday giving me false hope that it was just a show - back with a vengenance this morning so clomid starts tomorrow. Am going to take it during the day this cycle maybe taking at night (as did last cycle) messes up the timings.

Had a really good cry this morning and feel alot better just dreading the side effects.

pinkspook i was doing opks and not getting results and started reflexology and started getting positive results on opks but wasnt feeling anything and usually do. Consultant said possibly the reflex was triggering something but not enough to actually ovualte so suggested clomid.

Not sure whether to use opks with the clomid this cycle as didnt last month any suggestions anyone. some say they dont work and others say they do HELPPPPP

LOve and baby dust to all

sarah76 · 10/10/2008 01:40

Sorry I've been away so long....3.5 weeks since MC and feeling better. Completely off antidepressants for two weeks now and still no meltdown (other than shouting at the lady in the Weight Watchers queue). I still can't stay for a meeting, too many babies there.

Have to agree with Littlefish, having complementary therapies does make you feel like you have more control. I have reflexology about once every two weeks (sometimes more often), and the lady is a really lovely former nuse who has had her own fertility problems (and has adopted 3 children). She is lovely to talk to, it's more like therapy when I go! At least I feel like I'm doing something good for myself.

Re: GPs being insensitive...I had one who'd never met me or looked at my records...she said something to the effect of 'obviously you like your food' and I had to explain that my PCOS makes it very difficult for me to lose weight no matter how little I eat! She shut up after admitting that I was right. She was a skinny bitch as well.

Loobey, glad to hear the family is aware of what you're going through and trying to be sensitive, even if they don't quite get it.

Pinkmook, your colleague who thinks everyone should 'suck it up' sounds like either she's completely forgotten what it was like (as now she's succeeded), or she's just bloody insensitive, or both. I agree with ontheup, why should she dictate how everyone else should behave? I might be handling the MC better than some, but I'm certainly not going to demand they behave the same way! Everyone's situation is different and we react differently. She should shut the hell up and stop judging how people grieve.

Petulant, I am completely dreading the SIL's baby. Well, not so much the baby, but seeing SIL's smug stupid face. I think I'm going to bring a flask of whisky, play my own drinking game, and take a big swig every time she says 'FIRST grandchild' or anything that remotely pisses me off. She went into labour two nights ago, a month early. Now they think she had kind of infection which brought labour on, but it's stopped now. Stupid cow is probably loving the drama of being in hospital and being centre of attention--she's completely like that (only 21). I don't know how I'm going to face it. They must know by now we're avoiding them as we haven't been down to London in months.

It's much easier to deal with my pregnant friend at my old job. Just talking to her over facebook, but that's been okay. The difference is, in my twisted little mind, she deserves to be pregnant and SIL does NOT.

GtG, glad you've patched up with your friend.

PicknMix, I have a friend who's offered to be a surrogate for me if I should ever need it. Perhaps it's the manner in which the offer is delivered, but with my friend I did feel like she genuinely meant it not as a comment on her own fertility, but just that she knew how much I wanted a baby and she would do anything she could to help me get that. Perhaps SIL's offer wasn't as genuine and that's what you're reacting to? I've told my friend I don't think it will come to that, but I really appreciate that she wants to help and understands how much this means to me. Also her last pregnancy was really rough--she was hospitalised three times for hyperemesis. So her saying that she'd do that for me means a lot.

Pinkie, I deal with the 'relax' speech one of two ways. Usually I ignore it. Alternatively, I give them a detailed explanation of PCOS, my menstrual cycle and how relaxing won't help fecking anything because I never have the slightest clue when/if I might ovulate, and we can't have sex every other day for weeks on end, we're not teenagers, and if sperm is not there to meet egg, all the relaxing in the bloody world does NOTHING! That usually stops the 'relax' speech.

Whew, that was a long one! Seeing the consultant on Monday to see if he knows why the MC happened and what we should be doing to prevent it happening again (assuming I even will get pregnant again).

pinkspook · 09/10/2008 18:37

pinkie08 good luck to you too. Am intrigued to find out if I am ovulating after all these tests. Did you have any indicators that you now realise after the clomid, that you weren't ovulating or did you have totally normal cycles?

pinkie08 · 09/10/2008 17:50

hi pinkspook

Since beginning of the year but have a miscarriage history before i had my dd who is now eight from a previous marriage. So they agreed to look into things afew months ago and found i wasnt ovulating. Now on the clomid wave.

lots of baby dust to you

pinkspook · 09/10/2008 15:12

I sometimes get used to the "relax" speech and think I'm doing OK, letting it go over my head but then I get really miffed off on other occaisions. It's very up and down.

How long have you been trying Pinkie08?

pinkie08 · 09/10/2008 10:23

hi pinkspook - tell me about it. the box for proxeed said it takes 3 months to get the numbers up so next month am swopping over to the individual ones from health shops.

think AF def on its way as getting brownish staining (sorry TMI).

feeling very down about it all is there ever light at the end of the tunnel.

How do you all cope with the "you really must relax speech" from parents etc i find it annoying and it winds me up.

Those that have gotten pregnant soooo easily dont have a clue.

Sorry for venting must be the PMT and the thought of next cycle of clomid. YUCK

need to find some energy and inspiration to go swimming maybe that will keep me sane.

Love and baby dust to all

pinkspook · 08/10/2008 19:32

Pinkie08 - We did buy proxeed but it was SO expensive! We have now got DH taking the supplements, zinc, l carnitine, magnesium vit c, selenium, and some other stuff I cant quite remember??! As it worked out cheaper.

pinkie08 · 08/10/2008 13:35

Hi pinkspook
with DH results have a look at fertilcare and proxeed plus. they have both been proven scientifically to work even referenced in a book that i read they are meant to make a difference to counts and motility and all the other bits.

to all the others - why do all those who arent even trying, dont really want and do all the things that we dont do get pregnant
and we have to smile wish them well and feel like a knife is going in us.

my most recent story was my 37 yr old friend had a baby in march and is now 5 months pg with her next AHHH.

really sorry just sick of bring on this train would like a BFP but then wouldnt we all.

lots of baby dust to you all

mistlethrush · 08/10/2008 11:48

I know, but time is running out ifyswim...

Ds would make such a great older brother too... although any younger sibling wouldn't half have to learn to stand up for themselves too!

pinkspook · 08/10/2008 10:51

mistlethrush am sorry you are feeling sad too. Hey you know small age gaps aren't always so great (or so Im told) My DS is 7 so any age gap I have (if i ever get another DC) will be huge! My cousin had an 10 yr age gap between her DC's and it was really great to see the older one with the baby

mistlethrush · 08/10/2008 10:12

GtG really glad that you've got it sorted out.

Feeling a bit too - friend at work expecting 2nd with just over 2 yr age gap - trying to agree names with her dh - effectively invited to contribute suggestions. Nice to get involved, but would have been nice to have 2nd. Don't think its going to happen now, but still can't get rid of all the nice things that we've had for ds - can get rid of the crappy stuff but not the rest ifyswim

pinkspook · 08/10/2008 08:14

Gordontheghoul (loving the name btw!) I am so pleased for you that you managed to speak to her and sort it out. Its amazing how people dont think about what they say and how it may affect others but I guess as someone else said earlier, pg women end to be in a little bubble of their own and find it hard to consider others.

I am due on fri but have had (TMI) brown spotting since yesterday so thats another thing I need to ask the consultant about

Really fed up this month

GordonTheGhoul · 08/10/2008 06:29

Morning all. Hope everyone is well. I had a big heart to heart with my pg friend and we sorted it out.

She had no idea that she'd upset me with the wine and asking me to touch her bump etc. Since then things have been ok but I've noticed she's not mentioned her pg at all - which is just fine by me!

I'm still waiting for af to arrive after my mc so in a way it's good having a break from ttc.

Think I may stop going to toddler groups for a bit - they are just full of pregnant women who will have the perfect two year age gap. I'm now looking at 3 and a half years. Grr.

poppy75 · 06/10/2008 18:45

Pinkspook completely agree I have one friend who had to have IVF so I tend to call her when I'm feeling low as everyone else loves to give the 'just relax and it'll happen!' Don't they realise that we've tried that!!!

poppy75 · 06/10/2008 18:42

Welcome Pinkie & Milly H - this is the place to vent all that pent energy while we smile sweetly at all those extremely fertile 'he just has to look at me and I'm pg' people!

I sometimes think that the only people who are ttc are us and everyone else is just populating away without a thought!

I have been ttc for three years (1 mc 2 years ago) nothing since.

But this month I have had Acu and also took agnus castus and for the first time in over two years ovulated about day 15 (not 17) and therefore had a normalish luteal phase!!! So quite excited It's the little things in life heh!

Picknmix that must have been really wierd! I guess she was trying to be nice, but put you in a very crazy position. Perhaps you could get DH to speak to her!

Amberflower So sorry to hear your story, loosing a baby is so hard especially when you are so far gone. Car crash is a great example, might have to use that one

AF arrived today so no luck this month but I'm pleased that something seems to be changing!

pinkspook · 06/10/2008 16:47

pinkie08 We have been trying 16 months but we know there are issues with DH's sperm and there may be issues with me so it all feels like an impossibility ATM

Have changed from ghostlywhitemook to pinkspook!

pinkie08 · 06/10/2008 12:15

hi
gordon the gopher
not many of them know it just seems so hard to talk to people who look at their husbands and get pg. they dont miscarry they dont even try they just get. ahh sorry just fed up with it all.

they put me on clomid to see if that gets the ovulation going am waiting for the blood results today/tomorrow.

pinkmook great new name made me smile
how long you been at ttc game? feels like each month is a year at the mo.

baby dust to you all