Thread for those fed up of pregnant friends... actually pregnant women everywhere... while they themselves have been TTC for ages or keep having miscarriages.

Thanks pinkie I just had my first consultation and i have a weak digestion apparently so we are starting with that as it is CD27 so although I am 99% certain I am not pg she thought it best to wait untilknowing for definate so on with the reproductive needles next week! It was a good session though so let's see how it goes....hope everyone is doing OK today??

Hi Beanie, thanks for that.

we had IUI in may and it failed but had the sperm washing then and was told DH had very good sperm and very good count so not sure why it failed.

I think if we dont get PG within the 6 months of clomid will go back to doc and see if they can do the test to see if my cm is causing the prob.

"Sperm washing is a procedure used to prepare sperm for use in IUI. It allows your partner?s sperm a better chance for survival and fertilization. Sperm washing separates sperm cells from a man?s semen, helping to get rid of dead or slow-moving sperm as well as additional chemicals that may impair fertilization. Once sperm has been washed at your fertility clinic?s laboratory, it can be used during IUI to help achieve pregnancy. There are a variety of different sperm washing procedures."

found this on the web

Hiya

My doctor tells me that they do a test called a 'post coital' test to see if your CM is inhospitable. Ie I guess they take a swab after sex and test it to see how easily the sperm is making its way through the CM.

She also mentioned 'sperm washing' - not sure if it is what it sounds like.

Thanks Ray81 - I am sure I have heard of that - hostile CM or something? Maybe someone with more clue than me will come along soon!

Hi Pinkspook,

so sorry to hear of you upset what a bummer. Did you know what her DH sperm results are ? if they are similar surely there is some hope, there should be anyway just remember it only takes one to do the job.

I was just wondering if any one has ever heard of a womans body attacking sperm. its crossed my mind a few times and if there is how do you get tested for it and can they treat it ?

Hi guys am feeling extra down today as a friend from the vasectomy reversal thread who only had her DH's reversal 3 onths ago has fell pregnant :-( ours was 15 months ago.

Dont get me wrong I am very happy for her just gutted for myself :-( feel like its never going to happen. DH had some other sperm test results back on monday and although his count has in creased (to 15.7mil/ml) its still below 20Mil needed and morph/motility wasnt great - also the consultant (who was very rude and abrupt) said we were still waiting for the anti sperm antibodies test results back and if he has them thats it - game over - no chance of natural conception. I have heard there is treatment for this (in the form of steroids) but he was adamant it is untreatable and refused to refer DH to a urologist as in his opinion it cannot be treated. Not tht we know he has ASA yet - but I just have this feeling he has :-(

The consultant was so horrible and I just feel so fed up :-( Ok venting over, hope everyone else is OK

Hi Pinkie,

Thanks for the advise i will waitt and see if it goes if it doesnt then will call the doc in the morning to ask them. Thats all you can do ay. I am just hoping that it is a sign of the Ovary working and that i will have lots of eggs and lots of chances to conceive would be nice he he.

Good luck hon let me know how you get on with Acupunture tomorrow.

Hi ray

It sounds like trapped wind of all things which can give you a pain in the shoulder that is like an 'empty feeling' drink couple of peppermint tea if you've got otherwise hot water with lemon.

You can get this when you are creating eggs but if its persistent would def ring your doc and fill them in. Am sure its better to be safe and know you can rest easier once youve asked the question.

I had the pain in shoulder when i was younger and has pcos always knew when was ovulating due to shoulder pain. so could just be the clomid making the ovary work.

I felt much relief when yesterday was told dont worry so always worth a call.

Hope that helps and let me know how you get on XXX

Hi pinkie,

sounds Very interesting think i may give it a go next Month.

Alittle worried at the mo have very bad pain in my right side V low down in the tube area, and also in the tummy and funnily enough in the shoulderi Know OHSS cannot occurr until after Ov so cannot be that as only on CD7. trying to last out and see if it goes away if not will have to go to doc tomorrow.
Have you had anything like this pinkie, or anyone else? Need advise quick

Hi lastboxoftampons

I dont think it matters when you start when i went on cd6 she did what she did and then said again next week for the ovulation.

I would def. think you need one before ovulation so it can start to rebalance your body before they do the ovulation one.
dont think it matters too much when this one is.

They tend to do a lengthy consultation when you first go and treat you from that.
Hope that helps

Baby dust to you

Pinkie and the others - I've been considering accupuncture as well. When is the best time to start seeing someone? Is it CD1? or is it best to go for a consultation before then so that you can start treatment on CD1?

Thanks

HI Ray and ontheup

The acupuncturist i saw on CD1 helped relieve my headache caused by the AF (very usual sypmtom for me) and helped the AF arrive in normal manner.

Then saw different woman at the centre on CD6 she again lifted headache which i could feel as a sensation moving. She also worked on my lower back and bottom area.

Then she worked on my stomach and legs and feet. could def. feel sensations in my feet (meant to be the yin realigning for the overheating).

Am going again tomorrow which is CD13 and she said they work on blood supply to ovaries - to help eggs along and womb for helping implantation.

The reason am going is it def. helps with headaches which means no pills - bonus

it has always worked for my sinusitus so am a true believer in it

Lots of baby dust to you

HI Ray and ontheup

The acupuncturist i saw on CD1 helped relieve my headache caused by the AF (very usual sypmtom for me) and helped the AF arrive in normal manner.

Then saw different woman at the centre on CD6 she again lifted headache which i could feel as a sensation moving. She also worked on my lower back and bottom area.

Then she worked on my stomach and legs and feet. could def. feel sensations in my feet (meant to be the yin realigning for the overheating).

Am going again tomorrow which is CD13 and she said they work on blood supply to ovaries - to help eggs along and womb for helping implantation.

The reason am going is it def. helps with headaches which means no pills - bonus

it has always worked for my sinusitus so am a true believer in it

Lots of baby dust to you

No problem ontheup
Also wanted to add that I think I'm FINALLY seeing some changes from the AC. I've been taking it for about three months now. You read so many stories from people who took it for 3 weeks and BAM - pregnant! But all of the 'official' evidence suggest it needs to build up in your system for 3 months, yadda, yadda, yadda...and I've found that to be true. I feel at this point it's helped to lengthen my LP, but like I said, it did take a while.

Do you all feel particular venom for certain people and not others? Everyone around me is currently having babies - I feel little pangs of jealousy for some, if not all, of them. But I have a circle of emailing buddies from another website - there's one girl that I've never really cared for - she's just announced that she's pregnant and every time there's mention of 'Baby center says morning sickness starts next week' etc I just find myself uncontrollably angry. I just can't help it. I'm at the point now where I don't email them back, but I'm still on the distro and I can't seem to not look I know if I said take me off the list, they'd know why and I'd feel like such a whiny baby who can't cope. GRRRRRR I hate this!

Morning ladies - how is evryone - we STILL dont have internet access so I am in Starbucks picking up work emails and thought I'd check in. Thanks re the AC LBOT think I'll give it a go and then acupuncture next week - same questions from me ray81 ... lots of luck to all those trying this month - I am on CD 21 but feel v premenstrual so not holding out great hopes...

Hi pinkie,

You're right we havent caught up.

So its CD12 for you today? when you get -ive on OPKs it normally means OV with 24-36 hrs later which would put you today possibly tomoz. the clomid is meant to make you OV 6 days after last Tab so that would work out wouldnt it? The spotting is abit weird but hoping its a good sign for you.

I am on CD7 today and going to start tomorrow, the clomid is giving me these pounding headaches and i'm starting to think its going to have to be a morning BD but i get up at 5.30 as it is so will have to start at about 5. Going to have to speak to him about making it quick. He he

If it doesnt work this month for me i think am going to try the acupunture next month? do they just concentrate on the PG thing and relaxing ? i went to one before and although thats what i wanted he wanted to give me herbal things and start but getting my body in order think he was trying to get money out of me to be honest will have to find a new one in my area.

God i'm realy hoping it works for both of us this month i realy do. Lots and Lots of baby dust to you.

Noreeen - I forget to say, I'm with you on the 'men's men' thing, my dh is the same, he wants to be there, but can 'clam-up' or try to say a solution, which doesn't help emotionally. I think it was really lovely that your dp said it was important that you say 'our baby' though, so he felt some part of the pregnancy (my dh would be happy if pregnancy was completely with me, he join in after birth!). Sounds like things are getting there for you though. I'm hoping for a normal AF in a few weeks, but have irregular often 34 day cycles, so maybe not!

I have only posted briefly here before, but find this thread really helpful as I thought I was wrong to feel jeolous, but reading other threads realise it's natural! It still doesn't make me feel any better for avoiding a good friend who has just had her second dd. I held her dd knowing I was pregnant, a week later (after ERCP: 8week missed miscarriage) I couldn't go near them during toddler group. Tomorrow I'll see another toddler group friend who is halfway through her 2nd preg. She may go through baby names again, or worse still moan that she still has 18 weeks to go or that she'll have increased childcare costs with 2 dcs (conversations I've tried to get out of before, and she knows I've wanted another one for a year). Worse thing is I know I did moan when I was pregnant with dd (sickness/migraine/water-retention/low blood pressure): I didn't know how easy I had it then!

I'm really sorry for anyone going through this who is TTC dc1. I see babies all around at the moment, but personally find seeing 2dcs (with around a 3yr gap or less)harder. I don't want the other peoples' babies, but seeing other people achieving two, seemingly easily, is hard! Then I feel bad for feeling this way when I do have 1 (and yes, I'm posting at 2am as my head is about to explode with the 'why,why,why' stress that is still hitting me following losing dc2, so sorry if this reads badly).

Hi ray
feels like not caught up with you in ages.

Am cd11 today and decided to start the sperm meets egg plan from day 6 so get the night off tonight (phew) -ive result today on my OPK but its abit early.

My DH was also quite amenable to the plan which really helps.

Had bit of spotting today but consultant said can happen and not to worry - gone now. weird huh

Acupuncture on weds which am really looking forward to

Lots of Baby dust to you

Hi pinkie,

I have looked att he sperm meets egg plan and think it sounds realy good so me an DH talked about it and agreed to try it this month.

Am on CD6 now so will take last clomid tonight, according to the science i should Ov about 7 days after last tab but last month i didnt i Ov on CD17 so some 10 days after. Its always the same with me i never do whats expected he he.
I have worked out that although Af isnt regular from First day is def regular from when i OV. my Af arrives exactly 17 days after Ov so at least that will help me know when to expect it.

Where are you now? At the trying stage. Good luck hon i realy hope it works for you this month.

Lots of baby dust to you

Hi guys, sorry I've not been on this thread for ages. Welcome to all new ranters!

AF arrived 3 days ago almost exactly 4 weeks after my mc, which is good - hopefully I'll get back to normal this cycle.

Met up with my postnatal group at the park. Every single one of them had either had their second baby or are currently pregnant. I held one of the babies which I shouldn't have done - I found it really hard, especially as the mum was complaining about how difficult it is having two... grr.

Baby dust to all.

herbaceous they never understand fully but they do let you off for it.

I had a miscarriage when one of my best friend was 2 weeks ahead of me. she had a healthy ds which i just ignored and although looking back it was not nice of me everyone just let me get on with it.

Those that have suffered will understand you and those who havent well just ignore them

IT WILL happen for you you'll see

Permission to vent ladies.

Best friend who got pregnant first time trying by doing IVF has just had her 12-week scan. All fine.

I've had two 12-week scans at which my babies were dead. And various other miscarriages too. I just cannot bear the fact that it's come so easily to her. It's MY TURN, NOT YOURS.

I haven't been able to bear seeing her, and usually we'd meet up every other weekend or so. We're part of a close-knit group, and I do worry that the others will think I'm being a mean-spirited, jealous cow. But no-one else understands how I feel...

Hi Ray

Really sorry AF Arrived on you was realing routing for you.

What did you think of the sperm meets egg plan. We did say we were going to start from day 8 anyway but it seems to have abit more science to it.

Have you started your tablets yet. I didnt seem as tired this month but very hot - acupuncturist seems to have rebalanced that for me and am going again next weds (day13) so hope that helps too.

Dropdeadfred since i started the clomid i have stopped using the CBFM as it not so accurate but this month am going to use the CB OPKs as felt not enough info just guessing.

Lots of baby dust to you