Chemical pregnancy

how are you doing AM?

That does sound a bit crap.
Do you feel ok? Just follow your instincts and go to the hosp if you get worried, but otherwise take it easy. Everything could well be absolutely fine.

Do you know or could you find out if there are any other EPU's near that offer a better service? My local one needs a referral from your GP but I know of another not too far away in a large Mat unit that you can just walk in, like an other A & E dept without any referral. PS. Sorry Lissielou, just read your earlier postings properly

ok, anything out of the ordinary, call a&e. im sure you will be fine though x

I stand corrected lissielou. My ectopic was at nearly 8 weeks and a very different experience again. Let us know how you are Abstract

any news?

bandanna (fab name btw) an experienced sonographer can see a sac at 5w, i do understand what you are saying and perhaps because o my own mishaps i am over-cautious, but any bleeding in early pg should be checked. the ops bleeding sounds heavier than implantation and if she had sufficient hcg for a bfp on a cbd then it should (really) be high enough to stop a period.

I'm no expert but could your "period" not just have been an implantation bleed? Are you experiencing any pain or still bleeding now? If not it sounds like you're pregnant to me. EPU can't see anything on a scan until you get to 6 weeks so unless you are having other symptoms that will be why they won't want to see you until then. Good luck, keep us posted.

Just keep an eye on it and see what happens. I'm sure you'll be ok. For me i just didn't have a clue what was going on and that was what frightened me.

oh, i did have pretty severe bckache!

AM i had niggles but did even feel it rupture. the shoulder pain associated with ep occurs due to internal bleeding. i ended up having the full works. looking back though, i knew something was wrong. and btw i had a scan at 5w with ds (bled from 5w-22w too) and saw him, only a sac, but there he was, still have the pic. all you need for an early scan is someone with bit of expertise

Abstractmouse - my experience with ep was similar to Lissies in that I bled and then got a BFP. The only difference is that my EPAU saw me right away at 5 weeks and suspected ectopic because there was nothing in my uterus. I had no pain at all.

The Dr at the EPAU has told me to go there between 5 and 6 weeks the next time I get pg to be checked over.

Like I said before, your pregnancy may well be fine, but I don't understand why your GP/Hospital would not take better care of a woman whose instincts have led her to seek advice.

It doesn't take a few days to get a scan appointment, BTW. The EPAU is an emergency department and they should see women who come straight from the GP with a referral letter in their hands.

AM, with my ep i got my bfp at 14dpo, bled at 18dpo was told i was mc-ing 5d later i was convinced i was still pg so tested and bfp. had a scan 2d later but only because i kicked up such a fuss (they CAN scan you at 5w, they just wont see a hb) and was told that while there was nothing in my uterus (didnt fecking check the tubes) my hcg levels were fine. a week later i bled again so went in for a scan, again i had tokick up a fuss and speak to the cons on duty, my ep ruptured my tube at 6w4d. i dont want to scare you, but this makes me cross, i nearly died (as did many women) because they took their sweet time and if i hadnt kicked up such a fuss then hings could have been vv different

If you're worried, get yourself down to casualty which should have an emergency GP service. You pay national insurance after all!

You don't ahve to make a fuss, just be firm and polite and say you're very worried and you'd like it checking out.

Hi

The same thing happened to me last month and I ended up going to casualty as I was so worried. I saw the GP there and was referred to the EPU.

When I had the scan there was nothing there so even now I'm not sure if it was a CP or i bled mid-cycle and had a bizarre period.

The impression I got from the nurse who scanned me was that I was wasting their time but a MC is an MC at the end of the day and you deserve to know what's going on.

After a couple of down days I felt ok and we've started TTC again. At least I think I got pregnant so that helps a bit!

I agree that 6 weeks is late for an EPAU to see you.

When I had my ectopic earlier this year, it took them a week to diagnose and treat it, but all of this happened before I was 6 weeks along. And because it was sorted early the hospital was able to fix it medically instead of having to operate which was much better for me.

The Dr giving you a urine test is completely pointless. You need serial blood HCG tests to see if the preg is progressing normally and a scan when your HCG reaches 2000. Your GP may not be aware of all of this - a fair few seem not to be.

FWIW, my GP (well actually the practice nurse) also wanted to do a urine test and claimed I had bled so I must have miscarried. It was when I started shouting that a referral to the EPAU appeared. Can you bear to kick up a stink? It may well be that your pregnancy is fine, by the way. For example, my mother had "periods" in all of her pregnancies, but it is worth getting checked.

god, this type of thing makes me so angry! can you call your epu directly? if you make enough of a fuss they may see you earlier.

cp is when the egg was fertilised but for whatever reason did not actually embed in the uterus so quickly dies. the hormones are usually gone within 3 days. i had one, one day a BFP then bleeding the next day then a BFN.

Abstractmouse I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Really want it to work out after my disappointment. I can't believe how rude some GPs are! Let us know how you get on, I am just looking forward to getting down to trying again