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TTC dc2 forever? Join me to discuss "ishoos", concerns, emotions and coping mechanisms please!

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Bluebutterfly · 01/08/2008 20:00

OK - BB ttc dc2 since March 2007 - a year and 5 months. Dc1 is 3yrs 6 mths. Have used chance, ovulation tests, cm monitoring, bbt. Taking folic acid, evening primrose, multivitamins, black cohash and dong quai. Sex has taken on a very functional mood despite all efforts not to focus on ttc. Cut out alcohol, down on caffeine and all foods considered risky.

Concerns - secondary infertility, dc1 never knowing what it is like to have siblings, have embarked on medical fertility tests. Really want to have a second child (always wanted 3) but feel
a) greedy - at least have 1 dc unlike many b)envious - so many friends seem to get pg multiple times at the blink of an eye
c) lucky - I really appreciate how precious my dc truly is because I have learned not to take for granted my capacity for bearing children.

I feel like I am dealing with this problem in a sort of vacuum. My friends who have multiple children don't seem to understand how upsetting not being able to choose the size of my family is, and yet I do not (understandably) get much sympathy from couples who are ttc their first without success. So noone thinks this is a serious problem, except for me and dh because we want more SO very badly.

Anyone else feel the same? Having similar probs?

Any heartening stories?

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MamaMimi · 16/08/2008 20:52

Hello again all.

Was wondering if any of you applied for the freebie CB pg test?

I received mine in the post yesterday. Pretty clever, but the rrp is also expensive - not sure if I would buy one.

I'm on CD14 so it will be a while before I would try it anyway.

Does anyone have updates on their situations?

This is my BDing time so busy eve/nights!!

Pinkmook - since our cycles are similar thought I would ask if you are feeling positive this month. Ovulation occuring yet?

Hope the thread gets going again

xserialshopper · 11/08/2008 13:57

I have a CB but I think everyones fertility is different. I would just go with what the monitors says. And remember, even when you get a peak ovulation could follow up to 2-3 days later

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Bluebutterfly · 10/08/2008 16:11

How's it going everyone? My monitor is stating "peak fertility" today and so dh and I are planning to be very busy the next few days ...

Serious question, though, for fellow fertility monitor users (Clearblue). Is it normal to jump from "low fertility" to "peak fertily" without stopping off at "high fertility" first?

Yesterday morning the reading was "low" and this morning it is "peak". Is that strange at all?

Any thoughts welcome!

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anniemac · 07/08/2008 17:02

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Bluebutterfly · 07/08/2008 17:01

Thanks annie! Wow, my grammar and punctuation was all over the place in my last post - shocking! And I am not even pg .

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Bluebutterfly · 07/08/2008 16:38

Hi anniemac and Nappyhead!

Nappy, it is too bad that so many of us are in this position - it creates a stress that permeates everything in a way, doesn't it.

Other measures that I have been trying - cutting out coffee and substituting with green tea (for its antioxidants). Trying to drink alot more fluids (including grapefruit juice now a la pinkmook). I have also heard that relaxation techniques like massage and acupuncture (I am scared of needles though) can help. One of RL friends suggested naturapathy because she knew people who felt it had helped them conceive.

annie - fsh levels are tested as standard when you see a fertility consultant? Or should I ask specifically when I get my initial tests done?

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Nappyhead · 07/08/2008 13:14

Hi anniemac,

I don't know what my day 3 fsh was. The GP just told me that all my results were normal so I didn't think to ask.

What's the implication of it being slightly raised?

Did you have any difficultly TTC#1?

x

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Nappyhead · 07/08/2008 11:11

Hi everyone - hope you don't mind if I join too!

DS is 3 and we've been TTC DC#2 since May 2007. I'm 35 and have had the usual tests - all came back fine. I had a scan of all my bits - nothing wrong could be found at all. DH is going to the Dr next week (I've been nagging for MONTHS but he can't possibly imagine that he might have a problem!!!) He's convinced that because we had one child no problem, then it's just a matter of time.

It is really really getting me down now. I am 35. All my friends who had their babies when I had mine have now got 2 - some have 3!! I know I should be eternally grateful that I have one - and I am - but I SOOOOO wish that he could have a sibling.

I've done ov sticks, temping, charting. I really don't know what else to do. Any advice?

If DH's tests come back fine what's the next step?

xxx

pinkmook · 07/08/2008 10:57

But BB look at it this way - at least there are only problems with one of you - fertility is a combined thing. There are definitely probs with my DH's sperm (low count, motility and morphology - the hat trick!) and there may be problems with me too. And if the issues is on your side (and there no guarantee there is a major issue) female sub fertility is a lot more easily treated (or so I have been told) than male sub fertility so don't give up hope

sometimes this whole thing just takes a bloody long time. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it

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Bluebutterfly · 07/08/2008 08:41

Yes, and meant to say dh got his tests back and he is fine - "lots of healthy swimmers" we were told, so if there is a physiological problem, it is me. Great.

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Bluebutterfly · 07/08/2008 08:36

pinkmook - I am wondering if it was just some spotting last week, followed by my period over the weekend. Still - very unusual for me to have that happen. I do need to get my hormones checked out - I think things have been haywire since having ds.

xserial - you can be strong - yes, ttc does rather put a damper on bedroom spontanaeity, so annoying isn't it?

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xserialshopper · 06/08/2008 14:23

Something just doesn't sound right Bluebutterfly about your period[puzzled emoticon] I'm like you, 2 days heavy then tapers off. I've never had spotting.

Now that we can't bd until after my tube clearout I've been feeling ever so sexy and have had to use real mental constraint to stop me from jumping on my DH If only he know It's never like this when we're ttc sod's law I suppose.

pinkmook · 06/08/2008 13:54

BB- are you sure you actually started your period or was it just "spotting" I used to get very confused with this but realised I was actually spotting for several days and my temp drop only occured on the day "proper" bleeding took place - Did that make any sense??!

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Bluebutterfly · 06/08/2008 13:48

Sorry how rude of me - just jumped back on the thread without greeting newcomers - tsk, tsk BB! Hi xerial - don't despair. I have a RL friend who tried for 5 years with #2 (including an unsuccessful bout of IVF!) She gave up aged 40 and she and her dh went back to having regular "just for the sake of it" sex too! Within 3 months of totally giving up the possibility of more children she was pg with ds2 (now 5 years old)!
Best of luck!

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Bluebutterfly · 06/08/2008 13:42

Just a quick question - I tend to have a period that lasts for 5 days. Heavy on day 1 and 2 and then tapers off. This time my period started light for 2-3 days, got heavy for 4 days and here I am on DAY 8 and I still have moderate flow! Is this going to seriously disrupt my cycle? I am on day 8 on my fertility monitor and it is already telling me to test every morning - and I still have my period. Of course it is showing "low fertility"? Anyone else get this?

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pinkmook · 06/08/2008 13:39

ta xerial - am rooting for you too!

Hi mamamimi, I too thought it would happen really quickly (stupid really since DH had had a vasectomy reversal and the surgeon said only a 40% chance of pregnancy after the op - I just assumed we would be in the 40%!! [stupid emoticon] )

I am on CD 2 Mamamimi so we will have to check back in here and hold hands on the 2 week wait!

Are you happy to be having break from TTC xerial or is torture?! I go back to my consultant on August 27th too so will have to check back with each other and see how we both went!

xserialshopper · 06/08/2008 13:04

Yeh Pinkmook I'm still rooting for you and your reversal thread is still in my 'watch' section [I'm so nosey emoticon]

MamaMimi · 06/08/2008 12:06

I have a dd (4)and have been trying for dc#2 since about Sept 07.

As I got pg quite quickly with dd I put off ttc again as I didn't want too small of an age gap but now I'm wishing I had started sooner as I didn't think it would take this long!

Haven't been overly concerned about how long it's taking as I am aware that I am nearly 5 yrs older than last time (36 now), also about 2 st heavier and wondering if this is an issue - must try harder to lose weight and get fitter!

Also don't think I have really tried hard enough, ie just realised last cycle that the cramp/pain I get, that makes me feel tender and puts me off BDing, is obviously a sign of ovulation when we need to be BDing with gusto!!!

So I have decided I need to take the whole thing a bit more seriously if I want to give my dd the sibling she keeps saying she would love. Hence being on MN and reading other posters stories and deciding to join in with mine.

Currently on CD erm (hang on, just check calendar!) CD4.

pinkmook · 06/08/2008 08:46

Hey Xerial! nice to see you around again! Good luck with the tests and everything. As you have probably read above I have started down the road of investigations although its looking more like its DH's sperm thats the "ishoo" !

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xserialshopper · 05/08/2008 18:48

Hi Bluebutterfly GordontheGopher FlowerFairy and Pinkmook.

BBF I think it great that you're getting your fertility checked out. I wish I had done it a lot sooner - like 3 years ago.

I read in Tony Weschler (or whatever her surname is) book that EPO should only be taken up to OV and then stopped. While I was on Clomid the grapefruit juice (mixed with a bit of lemonade - just to make it palatable) worked for me

I've been trying for #2 since my ds was coming up to age 2 and he's 6 now, so roughly 5 years!!!!!! Still, I'm 41 now, so age is against me.

I'm due to have a laparoscopy, dye test, hysteroscopy and tubal catheterisation on August 27th. No bding until then. I will start ttc again probably september.

pinkmook · 02/08/2008 17:34

Well it must be working some placebo magic on me (and quite a few others on here if you search grapefruit juice in the TTC threads)as when I started drinking it I produced copious quantities where once all was relatively dry!! (sorry a little TMI probably!)

I will look into the EPO thing abit more I think........

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Bluebutterfly · 02/08/2008 14:32

Thanks thalia - what a story! Congratulations on your daughter, it sounds like you really struggled to have her, I hope that this time things are much more straight forward for you and your dp - it sounds like you deserve it more than most! I will keep an eye on my periods (I have only been taking the herbal supplements for 1 month to try to even out my irregular periods so I want to give them a little chance - I guess they may work for some and not for others) I might cut out the epo though because I have been taking it for over a year and I am not sure it is doing much anyway.

Thanks for joining us!

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