The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

Hi everyone!

Have also been madly busy, though now our servers have overheated, poor dears, so we're all locked out of email and most of our shared drives...nothing for it but to check in on MN!

Was so lovely to meet some of you last night - though we missed MOB Ei PnM Citybranch - I felt perky this morning, bar the massive zit on my chin. Must be AF lurking...SH lol at you crawling around after DD in your gorgeous linen dress!

I have bruises on my tummy btw from the acupuncture. That can surely not been a good sign? They're tiny (and I do bruise easily) so perhaps all is fine.

Ei Fingers crossed for the job! I think a Sept meet up would be great

GG anymore swimming for swimmers going on? You're inspired me to check out swimming pool options in Brighton (the sea is a little "refreshing" to be swimming in for too long!).

higs to everyone!
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Glamorous my foot (well the others were at least). Note to self: don't wear linen to work, particularly not black linen if you are then going to crawl around after child on fluffy carpet.

I had a good time yesterday evening, although cannot claim to feel terribly perky today (and am out again tonight - none of which is good for operation non-pickled eggs).

For those of you who didn't come Bucky showed us her war wounds, which are nowhere near as bad as she told us! (Although the Lap itself sounded less than fun.)

Lots of luck Ei
Are you feeeling a bit better this week MOB?

And are you ok, PnM? Spotted any more interesting nature-things?

Higs to you all.

BTW - from your descriptions of what you were all wearing yesterday, you are obv all glamerous women - so you must give me plenty of warning for the Brighton outing, so i can turn myself into a glamerous (sp???? - really can't work out correct sp) woman for the day!!!

I'm here too

Hope you all had a lovely evening last night Did you make any plans for the Brighton trip or we you all too busy drinking

EI sorry, didn't realise you had been for an interview last week. Hope they phone you soon (I always think it is the waiting around for a phone call that is the worst bit) Obviously hope as well that it's good news!!

PnM Hope you are ok? Haven't "seen" you about for a few days. Hope everything is ok with you. X

im here
sounds like you had fun GG
nothing much happening here except i am waiting for my phone call about my interview last week [nail biting emoticon] i havent got a good feeling about it really but who knows i could be wrong...wish me luck!!
xx ei xx

I'm about! Was about to post earlier, but got distracted and now madly busy.

Lovely to see/meet some of you last night! Really enjoyed myself and feel rather good for four (?) G&T's in an evening .

Oh do you know what, completely forgot about drinks! Hope you are having a nice time!

hi ladies
just a quick one to say have a great time at your EMN meetup i am of you lot being so close together but im sure if you lot organise one say around september 20th i will be quite happy and able to attend hopefully anyway as im trying to sort out getting some london time in around then to meet up with a few other mn buddies anywho have a great time
xx ei xx

At least 2 of you will be easy to identify from your red dot and air of calm.

I haven't forgotten what you look like Bucky, so I'll find you too!

Looking forward to a speedy exit in time for 5:34.

I'm in black trousers, a white shirt and black tank top.

But you'll no doubt recognise me by the Needler's Mark on my forehead (like a Harry Potter style Dark Mark, but for 2WW-ers )

SH suddenly struck me I probably won't recognise you so thanks for the tip - I shall be the one wandering around staring at women's shoes (btw I'm in a black and white skirt, black top, grey cardie and, er, red handbag)

And glad to know I'm not the only pee-er on sticks

Caitni - I curse Boots and their 2 for 1 on FR tests too. Sometimes I pee on them without realising and then think "why on earth did I do that?". Never mind about the BFN, you can have a guilt-free drink tonight and then get your BFP in a couple of days!

(BTW, it occurs to me you might find it hard to recognise us. Maybe we should have a password, but failing that I am wearing a black dress and peep-toe shoes).

caitni - don't worry about doign the early test. Higs that it was negative . hey, we've all done the same. Those pesky HPT's are the bane of every 2ww-er's life. Having HPTs in the bathroom cabinet when you're on the 2WW is like having a huge tin of chocolate biscuits in the cupboard when you are on a diet . Too tempting!

Men never understand our impatience with our own bodies. I don't think my Dh knows how much they cost (or how many I have done over the years )

Oh ladies, I did a stupid thing last night...I raided my stock of First Response tests for a hpt (damn you boots and your 2 for 1 offer!). The whole time I was staring at it, I knew it was a stupid thing to do. I thought I saw the faintest of faint lines, but then realised I was kidding myself. It was definitely a BFN. I mean, what was I expecting testing at 9dpo? It's hard to explain, but it was like I entered into a tunnel, or was acting like a zombie or something - there was nothing that would have stopped me (granted, I was home alone and haven't told my DH yet - he thinks hpts cost so much that he doesn't understand why women just wait until their period is late, which is just about a typical man's response!). Am so very .

MOB sorry I wont't get to meet you tonight, but roll on the day at the seaside. I hope your afternoon meeting doesn't drag on too much. I spent most of the morning in a meeting that just went on and on and on...I could see the sunshine outside and just couldn't concentrate!

Hi to Ei and PnM and everyone else! Best get down to some work before my app with Mr Needles at 4.45
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Would love to come along GG but unfortunately i have a meeting this afternoon that i think will be a very long one. I will be thinking of you all - have a wonderful time. Get planning the Brighton day trip - I'm looking forward to that!!!

Have a good day everyone.

Absolutely PMSL at the thought of Mr Needles popping in for a swift half at his local and seeing us all sitting there. He must think something is up....he's got four new patients in the last month all TTC with different issues. We'll know if he's telling the truth with his "success rates". We can double check them on the WIMBEWAIF 2WW thread

hello everyone! My appointment is 5.30pm tonight with the Exmouth Needler (like the Boston Strangler or the Yorkshire Ripper but without the murder and depravity ) so I'll be along to the meet up about 6.20-ish. Will probably see you coming out when I go in, Caitni.

Really looking forward to meeting everyone (MOB and Ei you will be missed! are you sure we can't tempt you along ) I'll recognise Bucky and Scary I think. You can show us your war wounds, Bucky, after we've had a few . Ha, by the time I show up, you'll be into your second G&T's .

Just realised I sort of imposed the Easton on you ladies by saying I'll be there at 6.30pm. Hope no-one minds!

Nothing to report here - CD6, so I think a wee drink is in order tonight. I went swimming again last night, so I have a stone to lose for Bali and six weeks to do it in ! Plus, getting as fit and healthy as possible for ICSI. I've called my new fitness campaign "Swim for Swimmers", good eh?

DH is away in the States for a week with work and then in Germany again, but he's here until CD17 (wooo hoo!), so it has worked out really well this month with TTC. I can't believe our IVF hospital appointment is next week . I am trying to make a list of all the things I have to ask. It has come around so quickly that I haven't had a chance to open the IVF book I bought off Amazon. I had planned to read it cover to cover so I would be uber knowledgable. Don't think I'll have time now.....it's not the sort of book i want to read on the tube on the way to work with pictures of sperm and bright pink lettering screaming "In Vetro Fertilisation"! )

scary - I am really reassured by that ECJ case. I think I'll explain to HR and have it down on my record and hopefully they will be symapthetic. I really don't want to tell anyone i work with though. I don't want the intrusion of people's concern and good wishes if they don't understand, even when people are being lovely, if that makes sense?? . Hell, I'm still debating whether to tell my family we're undergoing ICSI for the same reason, but that's another story

The Easton is lovely so yay for that! I'm not sure if I'll go straight there from my needles (so the forehead splot is nice and bright) or be good and go back to the office...that translates as I'll probably be in there at 5.34pm as well!

MOB I'm at your PCT funding rules - that seems so unfair and it just doesn't reflect the reality of many couples, with children from former relationships. And very glad that you're staying here - being supported through forced non-ttcing is just as important as being supported through ttcing IMO.

MOB, your comment about sperm suddenly reminded me of this amazing video we watched in Biology class when I was a spotty teen -it filmed the sperm from ejaculation right through to fertilisation, with a soothing hippy american voiceover. My memory of the sperm in the cervix, womb and fallopian tube was that they kept trying to fertilise any round cell they saw (with the voiceover droning things like "yet more spermatoza attempting to fertilise cells from the wall of the womb"). All I thought at the time was of randy dogs humping table legs...could this be the reason so many are released when it only takes one?

Yay! see you at 5:34 Bucky.

The Easton is fine by me.

Mr Needles is going to get a shock if he pops into the pub and sees all of his favourite customers in there together...

Hi Ladies

GG - yes, the article Caitni has linked to refers to the case I was thinking of (ECJ not Tribunal, but still applies). I guess the point is that IVF might make you feel a bit crap from time to time so telling your boss (if you get on with him/her) is probably a good move. I am becoming convinced that staying positive is an important part of ttc and agree that it's a good idea to steer clear of negative thoughts. I am very impressed with the swimming etc ( - that's me gasping for air at the prospect of any exercise) - you'll be very well prepared for the IVF at this rate. I'm sure being fit can only help.

Re the meet-up, you guys decide where to go and I will do as I am told! I can be there before 6:30 (probably from about 5:30 in fact) if anyone fancies an earlier exit from work.

I'm looking forward to meeting you Caitni. MOB you have had a lot of crappy news lately. I am sending you a lot of (((higs))) to help you through it. And if there's anything I can do to cheer you up please let me know. The break from ttc is not nice, I know, but you might find it takes the pressure off a bit (it certainly did when DH and I had to hold fire for 3 months). In the meantime you are not allowed to leave us... or else.

Picknmix and Bucky I'm really of your countryside adventures too. Around my way the animal I see most often is the rat!!

Ei I am on CD7, so we're as close to being buddies as we're going to get on this thread!

Waves to everyone else. I hope you're all doing well.

EI yes, it is the smear test results that mean we can't ttc. I got around to reading the leaflet they sent, and it was in there. Infact it said to use "effective contraception", although i am sure we don't need to bother with that, judging by the past year / SA results. LOVE the idea of getting unexectedly knocked up though Thanks also GG. I will stay here then, even though not TTC for a few months. I will go away and do some reading on ICSI - not only so i learn more about it for when we get to see a consultant, but also so i will have an idea of what you will be going through (and hopefully be a more effective hand holder)

p.s. caitni - that article is great on IVF/employment. I think that employment law case about the waitress in Austria might have been the case that scary was referring to. Cheers ladies!