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Just to say that I had a temp drop today, and light spotting has now started, expecting full period tomorrow or the next day...despite fully expecting it I'm still rather depressed . Ei I'm with you on cycle 10 now (actually, I suspect it may be cycle 11 now but that's even more depressing ).

Hope everyone has a good weekend.
xx

Evening everyone

So good to see so many ladies on here!

Ei hun I'm so so sorry to hear your period arrived but your turn will definitely come soon . Here's to a june baby xx

Bucky while I didn't quite make it to the Oak, I was having big fun nonetheless. I must also say that your posts have me giggling (the big lotto hand - I love it! And I swear when we head to the States next week I'll be in a diner waiting for a waitress to ask "Do you want an order of CM with that?"). And well done you for being so good. I'm being terrible at the moment, but figure I'll be all good and low GI and low alcohol/caffeine and lots of nuts and BDing from Sept on lol. And now why haven't I thought of the fake meetings plan like those girls from my company...

MOB so good to have you back! And so glad to hear about the positive steps re private tests. That sounds like a bargain (caitni thinks dreamily about a whole hour with a consultant to discuss plans to get a baby)

PnM god, I understand your feelings about your SIL. I find myself thinking similar things around my family at times (there are seven nieces and nephews, from 6 to 6 months). I feel even worse cos I know some of the problems some of them faced while ttc. Anyway, for me that's one of the joys of this thread. I can say it and not worry that people are going to think I'm evil Here's to good weather for the BBQ!

SH so glad to hear the app went well. It sounds like you got a great doctor. And good call taking your time and reassessing in a couple of months.

JollyBear yay for the good scan! Even if Jollycub is a little shy

And congrats to you Sarah despite just "meeting" you it's great to hear of the arrival of your baby girl (gorgeous names too!).

Big waves to all our other pregnant ladies and anyone else I may have missed!

We're off to the States next week - an old school friend's wedding in upstate new york (at her parents vineyard - they supplied the wine for our own wedding and their bestseller is a rose called foxy lady - can you see why I wouldn't mind some guilt free tipples?? Though of course would prefer a BFP ). There's going to be a huge crowd of folks who know us both (I met my DH when I was 16 and he was in my class in school, so the old school crowd know us both and find it quite cute that we finally got together all those years after school!). And then off to the in-laws in the pocono mountains, at the lake house where we got married. Am looking forward to it, it's a massive break from London/Brighton, but am planning a trip to DC too (there's only so much non-urban I can handle...for instance it was my third year of visiting this place before I realised there were premium outlet malls - calvin klein, nine west, etc - nearby and my god, I started to enjoy it more!). Me and the country definitely get on better when I can mix it with some city time I reckon

Enough rambling from me. Sorry for the marathon post!
xxx

Blimey, that's fantastic. Well done you.

SH, had a great birth 2hours 10 minutes start to finish xxx

Lovely news Sarah. Congratulations.
Did you have a good birth?
I LOVE the name

I was on this thread last year for quite a while and finally managed to get my BFP... i had a little girl named Tess Alexandra on Tuesday so just wanted to let those who remembered me know and to say never ever give up hope.. this thread is what kept me going.. lots of love xxxx

Ah no, Ei, I'm sorry.
This time it will be your turn. I think you would suit a June baby.

hi ladies
CD1 for me today so im into double figures now at least i have my answer i suppose but still...im a bit gutted TBH ahh well il try harder in cycle 10
PnM and MOB nice to see you two hope you are ok
bucky hope you are doing well
GG i hope AF doesnt arrive for you it feels like your turn this month
scary im glad your appointment went well and your consultant is taking your concerns seriously
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Guys! My left (.)(.) hurts... and I am crampy!! Do you think those are symptoms?

(Although arguably my nork always aches and the suspected endo gives me cramps, but I can dream...)

Hello again *Jollybear", it's so nice to hear that you and the little cub are doing well. LOL at it being shy. Are you going to have any more scans or is that it now?

Welcome back MOB, I've missed you. Good for you being proactive and looking into all that private business. I think that taking some control can be terribly important in making this dreadful ttc process seeem manageable. Yesterday when I saw the Dr he was at pains to point out that if I do ever decide I want IVF I will need to go private as the NHS will not generally fund it for those of us who already have a child. Which is all well and good and I understand it from a funding viewpoint, but I could imagine it being a very harsh policy in some circumstances...

Bucky you make me laugh. Evesdropping indeed (tut), but WELL DONE YOU for not having a biscuit for 22 days. Biscuits are basically crack cocaine for the ScaryHairy. Not a day goes by without me having a biscuit and there is hardly a variety I will not inhale. I think the bacon sarnie cravings and lashings of cm sound like definite symptoms. If that spring clean did the trick you can bet that I will be booking in for a lap before the end of September!!! (And I bet many other ladies from the ttc threads will be queueing up behind me!!) .

Gosh, it's nice to have everyone back on the thread again!

Picknmix thank goodness you didn't leave us for good! Remind me of what area you are in? surely there's a BUPA clinic or something nearby that could do the analysis for your DH? At least if he had that test and it came back fine that would be one less thing for you to worry about. Although I was wondering what would happen when you got the results. Would you get a copy sent to your GP so he/she could progress things with the NHS? It might be worth speaking to the GP to find out what would happen next. Your GP might also be aware of a private clinic that could help you. I hope the visiting family doesn't get too much, but if it does you can always pretend you have work to do and come and talk to us .

Clearly 'tis the season for car crashes. Am very glad that PnM, GG and the ducks are ok. GG you still haven't told us what sort of car you totalled. If your DH insists on you getting a replacement (and IF you decide to humour him), I think you either get an ancient Datsun Cherry (so that next time it gets totalled and is uninsured noone will mind) or a car he will hate. That'll learn 'im.

Caitni I am hoping the fabulous relaxed approach does the trick for you.

Right, back to the grindstone, see you later!

Great to hear the scan went well JB - at your shy Jollycub!!

Lovely to have you back MOB although sorry to hear your holiday was a little damp! INWYM re having too much time to think about things although I'm uber impressed with your pro-active attitude and deffo think the appt sounds like a positive thing to do. Sounds very reasonable. I have been looking into private care but am not having much luck so far!

Bucky I think the lack of caffeine/gin/biscuits is finally getting to you !! Although I did laugh out loud at the thought of your bacon sandwich craving with a side order of CM . On effort alone you definitely deserve your BFP this month - I shall be crossing all possible limbs in an effort to will your bfp to turn up next week. Wish I could say I was as committed as you - all things ttc have somewhat gone to the wayside this last week. Shall attempt to jump back on the wagon before critical time though.

The interview was for a completely different career - feel the need for change at the moment! Although I'm pretty sure I wont get the job and, bizarrely, even if they offered it to me I prob wouldn't take it. The targets they were setting were completely unachievable and, with my lack of experience in the field, I would be gobsmacked if they even considered me. Twas good experience though, pleased I went.

Took me so long to write that - JB & PnM have posted in the meantime!

JB so glad the scan went well. If jollycub is uncooperative - must be male

PnM good to see you back. How did the interview go? Is this for a job similar to what you do already, or a change of direction? It must be lovely but very hard having your nephews & nieces around at the moment. Do take time out if it gets too much.

Good morning!

Higs all round - i've missed you all!!!

Lovely to see our pregnant ladies popping back - abby; DG; mibbes; JB; hatty; MTW. It's always great to hear your news. abby i'm so pleased the scan was fine, after such a worrying start to the pregnancy. I love GG's idea that you all pop back for the 2ww and symptom spotting - allbeit for a slightly different reason

PnM I am so sorry that you have been feeling so down. It is understandable that you may need a break from TTC and from the thread. I hope you don't stay away, of course, but realise why you may need to. I think it is strange but wonderful that we seem to have been all drawn together on this thread - all of us struggling in some way with ttc. I totally agree that it is heartbreaking when people join us and then wander off a few weeks later with their BFP. Not that i begrudge them that in any way, of course. But it hurts. All of our journeys here are different, but we are all in it for the long haul, and we will get each other through everything. We all know what it feels like to feel absolutely crap. Lots of love and higs to you. XX

GG you sound down too. It is not surprising - it sounds like the reality of the ICSI and what it all means has just hit you. And working those incredibly long hours too. Sounds like you need some relaxation. Isn't your holiday coming up soonish?? I'm and at your DH's reaction to the car accident! He should be grateful that you were ok!! What team were the fans going to watch?? Who knows - you may have brought them luck - all the teams will be after you!!!

Bucky you sound tired, with all those early starts. What has Finn done which means he's got to go back to school?

SH I'm so pleased that the appt went well yesterday. It sounds like the Dr really listened and took you seriously. You can now take some time to think things through, and decide if you want to have the lap. Hopefully you will get a BFP soon and won't need anything.

lou good to see you again. I'm glad your DH's results were more positive. Hope you have a lovely holiday.

Caitni Sounds like you had a fantastic time in Cork! And off on "proper" hols soon as well!! You are getting as bad as GG Hope your period doesn't arrive, and you can't enjoy your guilt free tipples!! Fingers crossed for you.

EI You poor thing, it sounds as though your cycle is all over the place. I couldn't wait to test if i was a week late, but you must do what is right for your, and i know you have been in this position too often before. Thank goodness you have your appt in a couple of weeks. Look after yourself.

Well, we are back from our hols now. We went to Devon, so it was WET!!!! Still managed to enjoy ourselves and have fun, but it somehow doesn't feel like we had a holiday.

I thought that going on holiday might help how i was feeling with regard to ttc, but it just made it worse. I suppose that i had more time to mull over things, whereas normally work,and life in general, stop me thinking too much. However, we have now made a positive step forward. I made contact with the private clinic near us (there is little point continuing with the NHS as they won't fund treatment anyway) For £160 DH is having another SA, and we will have an hour long consultation with the doctor to discuss treatment. Well worth it, i think. DH is providing the sample on 29th, and we are seeing the dr on 1st sept. She said that they can actually get the SA results within an hour or two!!! I feel so much more positive now, and who knows, maybe our dreams may actually come true.

Hello everyone,

GG I hope you are feeling OK after your horrible accident. I second what others have said about the car insurance! If it was THAT precious he would have insured it properly. Honestly!

PnM Sorry you are feeling so down. It is perfectly natural to feel a bit of your SIL popping out children like she is shelling peas! Hope you have a good bbq tomorrow

ei What a weird cycle. Have you tested at all? Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

SH The Dr sounds really nice and helpful, and it is good you have some breathing space to decide what you want to do.

Bucky Poor you with the 5am starts! Finn hasn't been eating your shoes has he?

Hello DG wow, you are nearly there! How very exciting. Hope the SPD gets sorted out, it sounds very painful.

I had my 20 week scan yesterday and everything was fine . Jollycub was uncooperative and wouldn't turn round though! My scan picture features the back of it's head and spine. DH thinks it must be shy!

Hello to anyone I've accidently missed,

Hi everybody,

Apologies for not being around - needed a few days off from all things ttc related.

Still feeling a little bit unsure about things but couldn't leave you guys for any longer...!

SH its sounds like you had a very good appt yesterday. I think your decision to leave it until Oct/Nov to give things a chance naturally is a good idea. You still have the option of the lap open to you and you can cross that bridge when if you come to it (fingers tightly crossed you get your bfp before then). So pleased you came away from the dr feeling like they've actually answered some questions for you.

How are you feeling GG?? Sorry to hear about your car accident - must have shaken you up a little bit? Pleased to hear you're ok though. Grr at your DH's reaction, agree with your mums sentiment! I reversed my DH's car into a bollard the other day - luckily the bollard stopped me from reversing into the duckpond outside our house for which my DH was entirely grateful (mainly because this meant I didn't take out Mrs White Duck and her babies - he has his priorities sorted, not worried about me, just about the local wildlife ). Af is due tomorrow isn't it? How are you feeling?

Bucky how are you doing?? Still tired out from your DP's early rises? Naughty Finn-Dog - hope boot camp sorts him out this weekend .

How is the first week at work going Ei? (it was this week you started wasn't it??). No idea what is happening with your chart - its difficult to know whether to keep that early high temp or not. Hope the spotting hasn't turned into anything else and that your bfp is just around the corner - I have my fingers crossed for you!

DG fabulous to 'see' you!!! 34 weeks already? Sorry to hear you're suffering with SPD though - sounds painful, hope the accupuncturist helps.

Caitni good to hear of another Kevin fan - I love the man!! How are you feeling? Hope your relaxed attitude this month does the trick. Where are you off to on holiday?? I'm on holiday this week (holidaying at home ) and the weather has been appalling! I had my job interview on Monday and then various family visits since then so don't actually feel like I'm on holiday at all!

My SIL and her family are over at the mo (they liove in Canada) and I have spent a few days with them and their 3 children (3 kids under 3 years, crikey!!). Its tough but fun. Feel dreadful because I can't help the sneaking thought 'how can she [sil] manage it 3 times in 3 years and I can't even do it once'. My fragile mind can't really cope

Hi to anyone I've accidentally missed and a big hello to all our preggers ladies, hope you are all doing ok??

Am off to weed the garden and make it child friendly enough for the nieces and nephews as am due to have a bbq tomorrrow (weather permitting!)

xx

Wow ei - fingers crossed. Have you had any more psychic dreams lately? My dreams are all very weird: two nights ago I dreamed my boobs started leaking for no reason. Last night I dreamed that dr told me the reason I am not pregnant is because I eat too much salt, so I woke up today resolved to avoid crisps at all costs! This is clearly becoming an obsession...

The Dr was fine, thanks. We had a wee chat about everything that's happened. He thinks it is likely that my tubes are scarred from the cs and also the ectopic and that I may well have some endometriosis. He suggested that they could do a lap which might improve things (because they could treat the scarring/adhesions/endo), but I am chicken about surgery so am not sure. And, for example, if the only solution was IVF I am not sure I would go that route because it seems so rigorous, so that kind of reduces the point of having a lap.

Anyway, he's left my file open so if I want to go back and get a lap or need to talk again in the next 12 months I can call directly without going through the GP. Which is pretty reassuring as I really wanted to find out what my options are. I think I will give it until Oct/Nov and see what happens naturally first...

Hello to the rest of you. I hope you're ok.

ahhh caitni thanks for being so positive about my symptoms etc
dont forget preggy cycles start off the same as any other you know and if you have taken this month off ttc this may turn into your cycle relaxed mind and body etc good luck to you nighty night
xx ei xx

Oh Ei if that first temp is reliable then it sounds like you're pregnant to me . Glad to hear the spotting has stopped (it sounded pretty light?) and hope the cramping stops. Any other symptoms (smell, taste...that kind of thing?). I'm getting excited for you xx

Things same old same old with me - my post ov temps are at the same place they usually are (I know I'm not supposed to take too much stock in individual temps but still). We're off on holidays next week, so not too bothered (we've got a wedding to go to and I wouldn't mind some guilt free tipples!). It's almost like I've taken the month of August off ttc iykwim

night night for now and I'll be checking back in to see what your news is.
Caitni zzzz

caitni i only disregarded it to see what FF would do and it gave me a new ov date but it looks like the first was more reliable anyway!! i am very late now (almost a week) according to the first ov date so who knows i am having rather harsh cramping tonight and the spotting has stopped for now so i will update everyone tomorrow with any changes how are you getting on anyway?
xx ei xx