The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

morning scary how are you feeling today my lovely pregnant friend??
im in a surprisingly good mood today i think it may have something to do with me having a weekday off work
anyone doing anything exciting today??
nothing new TTC wise to report from me CD12 and no sign of Ov yet but to be fair on average i usually ov around CD16-18 so i would be rather early if i Ov in the next few days
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Thanks Picknmix. I suspect that the best way to get over DD's delivery is to have one that runs more smoothly this time (whether by c-section or not). So lots of planning required and I am going to hire an independent midwife to help me feel safer. Anyway I am looking forward to discussing all of this with the very expensive consultant in a couple of weeks when I go for my scan! It's ridiculous really, I can always find something to worry about .

Evening all,

Ei, good plan, thank you - think I will investigate your suggestion as that will make things a lot easier for me

Thank you for your kind words MTW x

Bucky hope you're doing ok today? xx

SH - I can only imagine how you must be having some bitter sweet feelings, I'm sure if I [manage to ever] fall pregnant I shall worry myself stupid having already been through 1 mc. Can you look into some sort of hypnosis to continue the good work already started in trying to alleviate some of the pain from the memory of your daughters delivery? I know nothing about such things though so not sure. I'm really pleased to hear that you are feeling more positive this time though - appreciate these next 2 weeks will go s-l-o-w-l-y for you but keep up with the deep breathing! Let us know when you have a scan booked so we can virtually and cyberly hold your hand.

Off to bed now - hope everyone else is ok?

Night all xx

Bucky I am so sorry that you are feeling this way. I think it might be a good idea for you to stop trying each month (if you can). Ttc is such an utter marathon - so hard to set yourself up to be hurt over and over again - that I can really understand you wanting some distance and some time to turn back into yourself. The MC must have been so devastating you might look into getting some counselling - I know it sounds extreme but after an experience like that you need to vent and grieve and that takes time. There are so many different ways to become a parent that it is worth checking all f your options out. Re IVF, I am not sure I could do it as it sounds so rigorous (and is more of the same 2WW etc), but I did read an newspaper article about "soft" IVF which at least involves lower doses of hormones and is less hard on the body. Anyway, whatever you decide we are all here for you. We seem to be taking lots of different routes to the same destination between us on this thread...

It's lovely to see you again PicknMix, and I am glad you're (mostly) ok. The problem with ttc is that it is such an overwhelming biological urge. I find it absolutely inescapable and just so frustrating when it all went wrong. Our news has not sunk in yet, although I am already looking at our birth options (in order to avoid the hell that was my daughter's delivery). I am half anticipating trouble again, but this one does feel more normal. I just have to keep breathing deeply for two more weeks, then I can go for my scan and hopefully everything will be fine.

Higs to you all. It's been a funny old week for the WIMBLEWAI(N)F club...

Hi all.

Bucky I'm so sorry, you have been trying for so long You articulate your feelings so well I really feel your pain and even had a tear in my eye. I understand you need to take a break and hope life has a kind way of working things out for you.

The same goes to you PnM I hope things work out for you too.

Regarding IVF: I know two couples that have had twins using this method. The first couple after 5 yrs of trying had a boy & a girl last year. The second couple tried for years and after 3 IVF attempts and £18,000 (£6,000 a try) have also got beautiful twin boy & girl.
I know it is not for everyone and can be very painful/emotional but I just wanted to try and give you a little hope. My thoughts are with you.

Big hello to everyone else

hi PnM how are you? nice to hear from you this place isnt the same without you in it
just a thought re:the conception board have you tried adding the thread to your watch list? that way all you need to do is click on the threada im watching icon at the top and it takes you directly to this thread link this is what i do as i got p***d off seeing the thread titles about accidental pregs etc you can also keep the thread on your radar by posting every few days and looking on the threads im on icon at the top next to the watching one so much easier and quicker IMO
xx ei xx

I forgot to say hi to MOB , how are you doing?

Welcome to MarieCharlie

And hellooo to Mibbes!!

(sorry xx)

Hi there everybody,

I apologise for being absent for so long - I needed to take a bit of time out and forget about the whole ttc business but I popped on tonight and have just read your news Bucky.

I'm so so sorry to hear about af arriving and how low its making you feel. I can totally empathise and I could've written exactly those words you wrote. Massive big huge hugs to you - sounds contrite but I genuinely mean it, am feeling really on your behalf now.

DH and I have also been talking through our options - adoption is something we are seriously considering as I don't think IVF is something I could ever go through but I'm getting to the end of my ttc tether. We shall see though.

Sorry I missed saying goodbye to both GG and Caitni - if you both pop on then HI and hope you're having a lovely time

Ei how is the new job going?

Lovely to see JB (great to hear the sickness has subsided and Jollycub is making his/her presence felt!), Hatty ( at your nesting habits!) and MTW (do they have to keep monitoring you for the glucose intolorence? Hope all is ok?).

Hi to Lou!

Hey DG how are you feeling?? So so close for you now!

Once again congrats to you SH ! Has it sunk in yet? Am at both yours and GGs experience with your respective doctors. What IS their problem?????? It makes me so mad to hear about your experiences, so unprofessional and totally needless.

Bucky feel free to email me (if you still have my email) if you want a rant. I know I've been finding it difficult coming on here to the 'conception' topic and seeing other threads come up - really should sort out a direct link just to this thread to avoid the others!

Have spent the day with my nieces and nephew at a local wetland centre with the ducks. Has been lovely but just the simple task of pushing a buggy became emotional for me! I'm rubbish at the moment - keep crying at anything (I'm normally a 'keep it all in' type person but I was cying watching X-Factor the other night and when they put Wellard down on 'Stenders last week I was an emotional wreck).

Things will get better though, I have so much in my life to be thankful for - even if it does feel like there's a great big gaping hole in it sometimes....

Apologies if I've missed anyone - hello if I have!

xx

oh god bucky im so sorry AF got you i know exactly what you mean about the feeling like a broken machine i really hope you can work through this and find a way you can get your much longed for DC {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}
xx ei xx

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Not really Ei, but am stressing about doctors/scans/birth etc already and have been grinding my teeth in my sleep. So if jaw-ache is a sign of pregnancy, then yes I have a symptom!

It would be brilliant if you came on the due in May thread with me. . Get to it!

hey scary any preggy symptoms yet? im not even on th 2ww yet but i WILL be joining you in the due in may 09 group if it blardy well kills me im still smiling at your BFP
a big hi there and hello to everyone else
GG judy have a great time in bali
xx ei xx

Have a lovely holiday GG. Enjoy the child-free ones while you can, because this time next year everything could be different!

Any news Bucky?

Higs to the rest of you MOB and (the rest of ) our pregnant ladies and PicknMix (are you still about, poppet?) and Ei.

You know I find that whole babydust thing a bit cheesy, but consider yourselves sprinkled!

Afternoon all,

Scary hurray!!!!!!!!!!! What lovely lovely news. How frustrating of your doctors though. Big grrrrrrr at them.

GG Bali you lucky thing! Hope your DH's latest results come back positively, well done him you must be so proud of him.

Bucky have so many bits of me crossed am pratically turning purple - will have to keep checking back now!

Thanks for Wimbe explanation - I've been wondering that too!

Good luck everyone .

I am getting nesty already. My Dh keeps looking at me scrubbing cupboards and wonders whether to offer me bits of twigs and fur to start actually building a nest with.

No, it's my GP I can't get to see. And they won't refer me without seeing me in the flesh!
The guidelines say GPs have to offer you an appointment within 24 hours, which they have (by offering me one at 2 today when I ahve to be in the office). But they are unable to give me an appointment next week which means I cannot plan, even though this is not an emergency (yet) and will only take 5 minutes. I am not amused and just don't need this hassle!

Bucky - are you going to test again? I have EVERYTHING crossed for you!!! It sounds really hopeful. I don't know whather you remember, but back in about January my AF was three days later for no reason. I knew when I ovulated and my leuteal phase after many months for monitoring it. No explanation. Unfortunately, AF did turn up in my case (obviously ) after quite a lot of testing, but I am really hopeful for you.

Bleedin' 'ell scary - that's not very helpful of them (understatement!) Can your GP not ring and talk the hospital round? As far as I now they always keep scanning slots aside for emergencies and difficult cases (sister doc told me ). Maybe if you can get your GP to use her muscle they will find one next week? I honestly think all medical admin staff are simple taught to repeat the words "no" "impossible" "can't fit you in for [ ] weeks" "no appointments" "I can't do anything about that" "i don't know" "not my job". And i would send them the PCT the bill from the Portland

Jolly - my nails are a total state, so I am sure you can't be as bad as me. I have had one manicure in my life, when I was bridesmaid for a friend, but the manicurist must have been a YTS trainee or something. Rubbish. Oh, and I bite mine
hello to everyone else.

This might be my last post for a few weeks as today is my last day in the office, but I might try and log in from Bali to see how you are. There won't be anything for me to report, but I am CD9 today and the EWCM seems to be starting. Ha ha, I might see if DH wants to join the Mile High Club.....

Bucky - can you text me if there are any BFP's when I am away? I can't leave the WIMBEWAIF club alone

Have a lovely bank holiday weekend everyone

GGx

My nails are uncared-for too, JB.

I need to VENT so here goes (and I am shouting!):

After the GP agreed I needed an appointment I heard nothing further so I called today and was told that unless I go this afternoon (they have a cancellation at 2) I can't have an appointment.

"But" said I "the GP is insistent that I should be given an appointment".

"Well there aren't any. You could try calling each morning next week and hope for a cancellation".

"Right, so if there isn't one, and I don't get my hospital appointment and things go horribly wrong as a result, what will happen then?"

...silence

"Well there aren't any appointments so there is nothing I can do."

"Can I have a copy of your complaints procedure please?"

I've had enough and so have booked to see a consultant at the Portland in a couple of weeks. I am seriously considering sending the PCT the bill, since this is utterly unacceptable.

Sorry for the post all about me. Am just really bleedin' cross.

Oh golly bucky I've got my fingers crossed so hard for you! Eeek. I'd be obsessing like mad if I were you! I think acupuncture can lengthen the LP but as someone else said, that is a good thing is any case as it gives a longer timespan for implantation. The 3am weeing is a very good sign

Awww, you are sweet GG. Your DH has tried so hard he really deserves a fantastic result of his latest test. The jollycub is behaving itself at the moment, the sickness has calmed down and the kicks are getting stronger. I can now see movement of my tummy .

Oh and I forgot to say congrats to sarahnh . What lovely news!

Am I the only one who doesn't take care of their nails on this thread?! bucky with her acrylic nails, mibbes with her weekly manicures! I'm a slob!!

PnM We had a newt and a frog in our garden the other day, I thought of you and your wildlife spotting! Hope you are OK.

SH How are you feeling, any symptoms ? Hope your scan gets sorted.

Hello ei! How's the new job going?

Hello to everyone else!

Awww I have no idea how you all stay sane xxxx

Crashing because this thread has been annoying me for months - I have to know what "WIMBEWAIF" and "WIMBEWAINF" stand for!!!!

Obsessing is what this thread is for...