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Short-ish LP with lots of spotting, but progesterone levels "normal"

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lastboxoftampons · 08/07/2008 13:37

I have an LP of about 10 days, which I know 'might' be an issue. I was pregnant once before, but miscarried at 11 weeks in March. Since the miscarriage, I have had lots of spotting during my LP. My GP did a blood test and progesterone levels came back 'normal' at 46. Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues and what can be done about it?

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AmberB9 · 02/07/2014 03:07

I'm having same issue. Wondering what the outcome was for all.

marylouise75 · 10/03/2011 11:05

Is Lastboxoftampons still on MN? Did this ever get sorted and was it progesterone?

lastboxoftampons · 19/09/2008 13:19

Apparently, you can take Soy isoflavones as you would clomid - I did CD3-7 - to stimulate a stronger ovulation, which in turn is meant to help your LP. It's pretty controversial, but I thought I'd give it a try.

I took AC throughout my entire cycle.

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anniemac · 19/09/2008 11:43

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lastboxoftampons · 18/09/2008 13:20

thanks for your post, Anniemac. I tried AC for two cycles. I definitely did get an extra day out of my LP as well. But still had spotting (albeit light) starting 8 or 9dpo. I'm giving soy a try this month, along with wearing a sleep mask (weird, I know!). I'll let you know how I do.

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anniemac · 18/09/2008 11:17

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lastboxoftampons · 17/09/2008 17:28

Hi All

Bumping this thread to see if anyone had any new feedback/info. Still no BFP for me and I'm going to make an appointment to see my GP again this month.

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Heebeejeebee · 11/07/2008 13:59

LOL LBOT! Hopefully if I get my appointment though soon I might be able to give some? Alternatively, give me a list of all your different scenarios and I'll see how many I can get through in the time available!

lastboxoftampons · 11/07/2008 13:28

Welcome to the all-questions-no-answers thread, HeeBee! Fingers crossed for good results for you!

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Heebeejeebee · 11/07/2008 13:05

Hi guys

Mind if I drop in? Like most of you I had spotting too pre-m/c and a short luteal phase (10 days). I got referred to the hospital (had been ttc for a year and was 35 at that point). I mentioned the spotting/luteal phase to the person I saw (registrar? Not sure that it was the consultant) but they didn't seem that bothered. I had the blood tests and was told to book in for the hsg, at which point I got my bfp, which sadly ended in mmc at 9 weeks (development had stopped after 7 weeks). I've always suspected low progesterone.

The dr has referred me back to the hospital 5 months post m/c so I'm hoping to find out the results of the blood test. The person I saw had said that after the hsg, the next step would be clomid (and they know I'm definitely ovulating).

Since the m/c I haven't had spotting until this month (though I've been having acupuncture and out of the blue the acupuncturist said to me that my progesterone levels were normal - how she knows that I've no idea)...

WorzselMummage · 11/07/2008 11:13

No they told her to go away for 3 months and if she still wasnt pregnant they would prescribe her clomi. As it happened she did get pregnant on a cycle with a 21 day progesterone of 35 so she obviously did ov. I think assisted cycle progesterone levels are usually much higher than 30.

I have had it done 30 times and the levels were 2, 30 and 35, the drs dont seem worried by it.

lastboxoftampons · 11/07/2008 10:43

Worzsel, is your friend taking Clomid or similar? I think 30 indicates normal ovulation, but it should be a bit higher if assisted?

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WorzselMummage · 11/07/2008 10:30

I have always thought that over 30 indicated ovulation but my friends was told at her fertility appointment that the clinic like to see 40 or above.

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buttercupbabe · 10/07/2008 17:03

Hey anniemac - how's things with you? Can they reduce your fhs level? My twisted tube and adhesions were caused by the c-section I had with ds. Apparently adhesions can be quite common after any abdominal surgery, and the tube my consultant thinks must have been moved during surgery and then ended up that way. Adhesions and tube issues can't show up on scans - they can only see it with a laparoscopy.
Lastbox I'm no expert but thought anything over 20 something indicated ovulation. I could be wrong though. It won't harm to have the early tests though and will probably give you peace of mind.

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lastboxoftampons · 10/07/2008 12:03

buttercup the cycle directly after my mc was almost normal, but with lots of spotting, which I just attributed to the mc. After that I had one cycle that was more normal, but the two since then have been even less characteristic for me with lots of spotting before AF. I do think my hormones are out of whack from the mc, but they dont' seem to be reverting, they seem to be getting worse.

anniemac I was under the impression that 46 was perfectly normal and indicated a normal ovulation. What is 'high' meant to be?

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tryingnottoobsess · 10/07/2008 09:14

Thanks for the new link. I had heard that Clomid was only ever appropriate if you were not ovulating at all, so that's a real eye opener. However, LBOT, I wouldn't have thought we could get as far as we did in our pregnancies if the follicle was 'inadequate' (from the article). So many questions for my appointment... It isn't until 29th July, but I'll report back.

buttercupbabe · 09/07/2008 20:01

We were trying for about 6 months when I first went to the GP. Like you I'd been carefully monitoring my cycle and discovered my LP was 10 days, with 2 days of spotting. It's very promising that you conceived so quickly in January. I have no experience of mc, is it possible that your cycle is taking time to return to normal? Did you spot before your mc? Maybe give it one more cycle and then really push for a referral. Ttc can be very frustrating but I'm sure things will work out for you soon.

lastboxoftampons · 09/07/2008 16:35

Thanks for your info, Buttercup. How long were you TTC before you saw the gynecologist? We've technicaly only been trying for 4 cycles - got pregnant first try in January, mc in March, waited on cycle and TTC three cycles since - which is why my GP wants me to wait a few more. She thinks that things haven't settled down post-mc and that the best indicator of my fertility is my past experience - the fact that I've gotten pg and pg quickly means there's nothing wrong. But I just feel like my cycles are getting worse and it's frustrating that she hasn't referred me to a gyn.

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lastboxoftampons · 09/07/2008 16:29

Trying here's another bit that you might find interesting babymed.com/faq/Content.aspx?13391

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buttercupbabe · 09/07/2008 14:25

Lastbox I got all my fertility stuff done privately - thankfully dh has bupa cover from work and they agreed to pay for everything upto diagnosis. It was very helpful as they paid for the op which fixed things (and would have cost us nearly 3k). Also I got to see the consultant quickly. Worth looking into but can be v expensive if you have to pay for it yourself.
I agree with attila again - not worth self medicating. I spent a few months downing excess amounts of vit b6 hoping to lengthen LP it didn't work (and also turns out lp wasn't the prob).
By the way I have a friend who had a 9/10 day LP and after 1 year of ttc she was given hcg injections by the same consultant I was seeing and it lengthened her Lp and she was pg within a couple of months. I believe hcg helps keep proj levels higher for longer.
My main bit of advice really is to try and see a fertility expert and get them to look into what is happening. I spent too long self diagnosing and should have just gone to see a specialist.
So sorry about your loss and hope that you get some good news soon.